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I agree.I don't think Nazis are morally equivalent but you shouldn't go fight monsters by becoming a monster yourself. We can get rid of symbols of racism without carrying baseball bats, clubs, and without having to ambush skinheads.
Curiously, Robert E Lee was opposed to the monuments:
“It’s often forgotten that Lee himself, after the Civil War, opposed monuments, specifically Confederate war monuments,” said Jonathan Horn, the author of the Lee biography, “The Man Who Would Not Be Washington.”
Robert E. Lee opposed Confederate monuments
I can't just call up the mayor of new york and force him to give me a rally to bring 1000 armed gunman into a park with nazi flags for a rally. Local governments have rights also.
This person's group members were right there at that rally, hun. But do feel free to keep trying to distract and defend the president and his white supremacist buddies.
Here is a statement from a witness to both the Friday night and Saturday events.Trump has made another clarifying post, in addition to his tweets.
Here is a statement from a witness to both the Friday night and Saturday events.
When these groups, on Friday night, marched chanting what they were chanting, it's pretty clear what they were up to and it wasn't just about statues. That is just ridiculous to even surmise.*Watches*
3:38 in. She's not made any actual arguments, just claiming that it is wrong that he said it should be allowed to happen.
4:30 in. She claims he's lying that the other side attacked, yet video evidence has shown that Antifa initiated the conflict along several lines* and the CoP said as much in his statement.
4:54 in. "Their permit did not cover [them getting violent]." You don't say?
5:00+ in. And she's on a soap box.
*If you want clips, PM me, not sure if it is kosher to post.
When these groups, on Friday night, marched chanting what they were chanting, it's pretty clear what they were up to and it wasn't just about statues. That is just ridiculous to even surmise.
When they put out the flyers that said what they said, it wasn't about statues.
When they carried shields and pushed through and over Christians singing a Christian song it was not peaceful and non-violent on their part.
Here is a statement from a witness to both the Friday night and Saturday events.
Why would they need a permit, they weren't putting on an event? They were protesting an event.he pointed out, one side had a permit to rally, the other did not.
Why would they need a permit, they weren't putting on an event? They were protesting an event.
The racist groups didn't have a permit to be marching and chanting in the streets the night before.
Those racist groups got just what they were hoping for.
Why would they need a permit, they weren't putting on an event? They were protesting an event.
Do you mean the whole alt-right? Because there's two alt-rights: the non-standard socially liberal and economically conservative supporters who are trash posters, memers, and dissidents who make up Trump's base, and the version the media portrays, which are the idiots like who were at the rally. I've seen the former start adopting the term "New Right" to try and avoid the narrative pushed by the media, so maybe that'll clear up the confusion?
Well in Chancellorsville, the white supremacist, Nazi and KKK elements came together in an attempt to "unite the right".
The "fine people" that went along to protest the removal of a confederate monument and didn't notice they were attending a hate rally must be pretty dumb indeed.
The rest of the "alt-right" doesn't seem to want to clear up any confusion about where they stand so much as they want to lash out at some liberal instigators that went there, so, maybe it's not the "media" that needs to clarify the issue for us.
The other alt-right people weren't even there, is what I was saying.
Maybe you could try not to sound so happy about violence and death? Do you think? I'd hate anyone to get the wrong idea.They came to attack a lawful assembly. They were looking for a fight...
...and they certainly got one this time.
Trump lashes out at 'alt-left' in Charlottesville, says 'fine people on both sides'
Trump has made another clarifying post, in addition to his tweets.
For him, we are having a debate between the KKK, white supremacists, and nazis on one side and the left on the other. Clearly many of his backers are among the "good" people in these groups.
I can add little. The president has every right to his views. As president, he can declare that the KKK, nazis, skinheads and white supremacists should no longer be considered terrorists. The people will tell us their opinions with their votes. As was the case with Obama, I suggest that many, many Republicans will NOT want Trump anywhere near their 2018 campaigns. Of course, many will.
My OPEN question is what will happen to the Republican Party in 2020 and 2022. Will the Trump changes become relatively entrenched?
Maybe you could try not to sound so happy about violence and death? Do you think? I'd hate anyone to get the wrong idea.
BLM isn't a group, it's a movement. While there are racists and other crazy people involved in the BLM movement, it's not at all a "black supremacist movement."
I think BLM is a mixed bag: both full of good people and bad people who do nothing but make their goal even more unreachable.
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