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So in other words, if a society doesn't fit your idea of what a perfect society is, then it can't be any good? Despite the fact that your knowledge and experience of societies is limited to what has historically existed on earth? That's awful narrow-minded.

No, it's dealing with the facts as we know them. We can't argue about imaginary facts.

I'm not God. All I know is that it would be better than anything humans could come up with by themselves.

How do you know that it would be better if you are not possessed of Godlike knowledge?

To human-mandated/enforced theocratic control, sure. But not for a God who genuinely knows what is best for us.

And what does God do with this knowledge of what is best for us?

When I conceptualize theocracy, either human or divine, I'm assuming that people will be compelled in some way to live according to a set of divine commandments.

You are free to suggest that a God who genuinely knows what is best for us would let human beings make their own decisions within the boundaries of individual rights, but that wouldn't be a theocracy in any sense that I would recognize. It would be more like a benevolent dictator who happens to like a libertarian social organization.

Define "free". A perfectly "free" society is anarchy, every man for himself.

I don't mean a lawless society in which one person may "legally" act in such a way as to forcibly interfere with the freedom of someone else. I mean a libertarian society in which there are carefully defined individual rights that grant to each individual a personal domain of legal authority in decision-making. For example, if you own a house, you may decide how to decorate your house. That is your domain of decision-making because it is your property and falls under your individual rights.


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Thinking of him reminded me that there are some Christians who I would trust to be in charge of a Theocracy... And all of them would refuse the position.
Sadly, that applies to most other forms of government as well.
 
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To human-mandated/enforced theocratic control, sure. But not for a God who genuinely knows what is best for us. For example, do you support not polluting the environment? Do you think laws against pollution are good, even though they would restrict the freedom of people to litter, for instance?

Apparently, your God thinks that it is best for us to set a fallen angel on our heels to tempt us into evil 24/7, to see who passes the test. So I guess in such a society, there would be hidden agents everywhere, trying to tempt young children into buying drugs and pornography?
 
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Blinders? Wanting evidence means I'm wearing blinders? ^_^

Did you even notice my icon, or are you under the impression that I'm just a confused teen Christian?

Religion is so fascinating. Yes, we're at the top, apart from the more intelligent species that probably exist on other planets.

Bwhahahahahaha! Hysterical man! You refuse to believe in God, but you're a-ok with little green men! ^_^
 
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Being the creator of something does not logically imply omniscience about said created object.

Oh? A person who creates a computer program doesn't know everything about that program? A carpenter who makes a chair or a table doesn't know everything about that chair or table? Hmmm, nah I'm pretty sure they do. ;)
 
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Oh? A person who creates a computer program doesn't know everything about that program? A carpenter who makes a chair or a table doesn't know everything about that chair or table? Hmmm, nah I'm pretty sure they do. ;)
They don't always.

Why do you think so much software has glitches in it?
 
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Bwhahahahahaha! Hysterical man! You refuse to believe in God, but you're a-ok with little green men! ^_^
These are not the same. You use the term "little green men" to equate the prospect of alien life as being that comical. It isn't. The sheer scale of the universe suggests the prospect of life is highly probable. Whether or not we will ever know or they (plural) will ever know or come into any kind of contact is extremely unlikely but on terms of possibility, it is very real and no it would not be as cartoonish as your "little green men" representation.
 
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