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The word "field" is a racial slur now.

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"Dining room" is classist.
"Living room" excludes departed ancestors.
"Closet" reminds gay people of before they could come out.
 
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It is well meaning, but clueless. I don't even have to go back five generations: I've worked in fields growing up. It may come a shock to some, but field work is a farming thing, not a racial one.
My guess is with it being a practicum and not getting paid, the "slave" implications are stronger.

Agreed though. Seems unnecessary.
 
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It's a big problem. Have you seen the vegan debate viral video?
 
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Your post reminds me of my favorite activist scholar concept....

"Privilege preserving epistemic pushback"
 
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We have got to stop catering to those that are triggered by non-offensive or demeaning language. There are words whose very intent is to be offensive. But the removal of common words that are not offensive from the language is catering to the easily offended, the mentally and emotionally weak. It's dumb. I can't believe we are catering to these people.
 
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Me, privileged?

Oh no....I'd never level such an awful accusation at someone during a civil discussion online. I'm certain you've genuinely achieved some of your success.

No, the term is an accusation of.....wait for it....bigotry and prejudice. These various activist ideologies tend to use "standpoint epistemology" and like most postmodernists or social constructivists....they run into trouble during debates and discussions. The argument over the definition of terms has to end at some point or has to be set aside for the debate or discussion to move forward and anyone who keeps insisting upon an objective reality or requesting evidence of claims will likely see the concept used against them.


Standpoint epistemology is exactly what it sounds like...personal anecdotes....or "lived experience".
 
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But are "we" really doing that?

Or are we elevating every silly little side show into prominence in order to stoke our culture wars fires and keep ourselves agitated?
 
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I see what you mean. Well, it sounds like we're more or less in agreement on that, mainly because in my "lived experience" while at the university working through my Master's, they tried to pound the whole "White Privilege" theme into and through their entire curriculum.

So, yeah. I get it.
 
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You have no idea how privileged you are.

Actually, I do. But at the same time, I'm going to analytically qualify anyone's specific assertions as to what "privilege" is and as to how we discern the label (read: denotation) we construct of it and then attempt to compel everyone else to recognize and use.

If someone wants to say, "Gee, 2PhiloVoid, you're white and you don't know what it is to be scorned, badgered, dismissed, threatened, and/or beaten down because of some cultural or biological difference that comes along with just being born Jewish, or of African descent, or gay," then I'd say, sure. Maybe. Maybe you're right! But this would be a very highly narrow use of the term, one that's almost by necessity forced into the sieve that comes with making something like Karl Marx's "Conflict Theory" the prime source of definition for privilege.

By golly, let's not pretend though that my having to literally pull myself up by my own boot-straps in life and having to make my own way from out of a highly dysfunctional, naive, half-educated, financially and emotionally depleated lower middle-class white family is somehow an example of "privilege." It's not.

But I get it: I also didn't have to live with epidemic levels of racial prejudice or severe social stigmatization raining down upon me like hammers every waking day of my life. For that, yes, I consider myself blessed.
 
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Here's how standpoint epistemology gets around the trouble of having to include viewpoints contradictory to the ideology (well, one of the ways)....

If you belong to a privileged identity....your beliefs, lived experiences, viewpoints, opinions, etc all lose value in any discussion. The most privileged of the privileged (straight white Christian men) can be and should be dismissed entirely from any conversation or discussion of any importance. You can even see this happening to gay white men, white women and lesbisn white women, etc....and depending upon context...this can happen to nearly any identity group based on context.

Of course, it looks pretty wild to the everyday people who have never looked into this stuff and wouldn't have any clue what epistemology even means. That's why a neophyte who doesn't read any theory like Matt Walsh for example can go around asking professors and other various experts "what is a woman?" and the answers he gets sound ludicrous to about 90-95% of the population.
 
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But are "we" really doing that?

Or are we elevating every silly little side show into prominence in order to stoke our culture wars fires and keep ourselves agitated?
When it becomes an order for a state government, it's gotten past "side show."
 
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I'm so glad I'm not guilty of any of this, either way ... However, while I'm not big on Feminist theory, I'm not fully against all aspects of it. It can get interesting points by which to engage, survey, and deliberate over its various "waves."

In considering the make-up of "Privilege preserving epistemic pushback," I thought the following article was useful. I'm sure others from other vantage points could be brought up as well:

 
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But are "we" really doing that?

Or are we elevating every silly little side show into prominence in order to stoke our culture wars fires and keep ourselves agitated?
We're just brining their silliness into the light to expose how ridiculous they can be, and reveal their true nature. Remember, the same people who want to ban or redefine common words are the same ones who push other "woke" agenda items. Reveal them for who they really are, and their entire agenda starts crumbling.
 
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Yes, the language will change with the society as it grows (or shrinks) to be more (or less) tolerant of “new things”. This has happened in every generation and is “normal”.
 
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Yes, the language will change with the society as it grows (or shrinks) to be more (or less) tolerant of “new things”. This has happened in every generation and is “normal”.

It's only normal when it happens naturally. Being forced to use certain words that don't make sense by people who will take your job, or censor you on social media because you're not being woke "enough" is not natural.
 
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It's only normal when it happens naturally. Being forced to use certain words that don't make sense by people who will take your job, or censor you on social media because you're not being woke "enough" is not natural.
Neither are kidney transplants.

All words are “made up”; there’s no “word mine” where we find “new words”. Therefore defining and redefining them is an on-going process (that you seem to like to complain about).
 
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