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Mercy, do you mean Jew as in religion of Jew as genetic? They are different things you know.
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That's Matthew Henry, Sis--and although he's not a poster (as the mods already noted per rules there's nothing wrong with referencing Non-Messianic thought), Non-Messianics are not allowed to actively debate anyhow. Matthew Henry has been dead for a LONG time to equate him as "discussing" is hilarious..as if that in any way changes what the mods noted/have warned about a good number of times.I'm assuming MH is going to be Matthew Henry. He doesn't seem to be the only one not MJ who is teaching and debating here. .
Gen 12:13 “Please say you are my sister, so that it shall be well with me for your sake, and my life be spared because of you." and on to the next fiasco concerning Sarah: Gen 20:12 “And yet, she is truly my sister. She is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother, and she became my wife."
We come to the fact that a half-truth, for whatever purpose is a whole lie.
God took care of it though.
Romans 4:3
If, in fact, Abraham was justified by works, he had something to boast about—but not before God. 3 What does Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.”[a]
4 Now to the one who works, wages are not credited as a gift but as an obligation. 5 However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness. 6 David says the same thing when he speaks of the blessedness of the one to whom God credits righteousness apart from works:
7 “Blessed are those9 Is this blessedness only for the circumcised, or also for the uncircumcised? We have been saying that Abraham’s faith was credited to him as righteousness. 10 Under what circumstances was it credited? Was it after he was circumcised, or before? It was not after, but before! 11 And he received circumcision as a sign, a seal of the righteousness that he had by faith while he was still uncircumcised. So then, he is the father of all who believe but have not been circumcised, in order that righteousness might be credited to them. 12 And he is then also the father of the circumcised who not only are circumcised but who also follow in the footsteps of the faith that our father Abraham had before he was circumcised.
whose transgressions are forgiven,
whose sins are covered.
8 Blessed is the one
whose sin the Lord will never count against them.”[]
Amen.\
He may not have told a full blown lie, but he did not tell the full truth either. It was for the purpose of deception that this was done, rather than trust God. It is what it is
The scenario with Abraham was akin to him seeking to protect himself and was justly called out on it by the King for his falsehood---as He knew better than to do act unrighteously before another righteous man and endanger his entire household. All of this is even more significant in light of how God told Abimelech that Abraham was a prophet who was able to intercede on behalf of others (Genesis 20:7)......and despite Abraham's error, Abimelech was to return the woman he didn't know was married/ask Abraham to pray for him so that things would be set in order.Gen 12:13 “Please say you are my sister, so that it shall be well with me for your sake, and my life be spared because of you." and on to the next fiasco concerning Sarah: Gen 20:12 “And yet, she is truly my sister. She is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother, and she became my wife."
We come to the fact that a half-truth, for whatever purpose is a whole lie.
God took care of it though
.....He may not have told a full blown lie, but he did not tell the full truth either. It was for the purpose of deception that this was done, rather than trust God. It is what it is.
.Romans 3:12
No One Is Righteous
9 What shall we conclude then? Do we have any advantage? Not at all! For we have already made the charge that Jews and Gentiles alike are all under the power of sin. 10 As it is written:
“There is no one righteous, not even one;
11 there is no one who understands;
there is no one who seeks God.
12 All have turned away,
they have together become worthless;
there is no one who does good,
not even one.”[
13 “Their throats are open graves;
their tongues practice deceit.”[]
“The poison of vipers is on their lips.”[]
14 “Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness.”[]
15 “Their feet are swift to shed blood;
16 ruin and misery mark their ways,
17 and the way of peace they do not know.”[]
18 “There is no fear of God before their eyes.”[]
19 Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. 20 Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin.
Righteousness Through Faith
21 But now apart from the law the righteousness of God has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22 This righteousness is given through faith in] Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. 25 God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement,[i] through the shedding of his blood—to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished— 26 he did it to demonstrate his righteousness at the present time, so as to be just and the one who justifies those who have faith in Jesus
I have a feeling that the Spirit that was all over him was sensed by this woman and there would not be a second time, ever for her to do that kind of deed. (I'm not even convinced that she was "taken in the act" anyway. Perhaps she had that reputation, but a reputation and caught in the act are two entirely different things.)
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