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I think this is the TRUE difference between East and West... Here in the West, countries really do have friends.
It would (and does) appear sad to a Westerner to know that there are countries not willing to rise to this level.
Nah. That is true bigotry.
Call it what you will, but the United States and other Western countries do indeed have friends.
Hi,
I’m new to the forums, and I notice some predictable paths this board might be taking when they post their views towards China, and I feel like I have to get this out of my chest. It has been said that the Chinese is sinful because it is prideful. And while I agree pride is sinful, I don’t know if it’s exclusive to one race over the other. White worship is not biblical and is practiced in many parts of Asia that you guys seem to favor, and that is narcissistic and arrogant. And would claiming one non-white country prideful generalizing and considered dangerous, unless you are backing up the Old Testament that ethnic groups are more sinful than others and deserve to be destroyed whether by foreign governments or God himself. Did God say to hate his creation more than any other race? I would hope not. All have sinned and are not better than anyone else.
I say don’t fall for the political propaganda machine in the West even if these political party members align with your religious views. China never claimed to be more prideful than others. If China was more prideful, would that excuse all the interracial marriages in favor of white males that leave Asian males unbiblically marriage-less and all the racist remarks they’ve endured online cleared by God in heaven? Are not the racism they’ve endured make those that make those racist remarks considered just as prideful, if not more? We got the statistics. I would hope we would show some self-control. So essentially, would these people that are anti-China or Asian think they’ll be clear of sin when they get to heaven? I would hope not, otherwise, this is a God not worthy of my praise. It is not considered holy.
The Pandemic may have started in China but due to a very effective shut down the country has not been majorly impacted by it. Indeed the economy is booming. China has more and more money to spend on military hardware and space expeditions. Its reputation is soaring and if it has not already become so, people expect that China will soon have the largest economy in the world.
But will China ever be a great global power like Spain, Britain or indeed the USA were/are in their heyday?
There are 3 main weaknesses to Chinas bid to be a global number one and they are mainly to do with its ideological outlook.
1) The Chinese have a weak religious base. The church while large in numbers is small relative to the population and so it lacks the kind of global appeal and impact that the Catholic Jesuits, British Anglicans, and American Evangelicals were able to project far beyond their borders. People are intrigued with Chinese culture and history but the religious passion for what China is is simply not there. Indeed China is seen not as a city on a hill but rather as a persecutor by both the Christian and Muslim worlds. It appears to have learned nothing from the fall of the Soviet Union whose moral legitimacy was undermined by its lack of respect for freedom of religion.
3) China is in practice quite racist in its outlook. It is a pure China first outlook.
The Americas became global by having the nations flock to them.
The British and Spanish by emigrating to the nations and shaping their societies. But China is an island unto itself.
but its lack of an exportable ideology,
The Chinese political system will continue to have little appeal to Western countries. However it's dynamic economic growth, including it's dramatic rebound from the Corona Virus will have an appeal to no Western countries many of which have authoritarian tendencies. Moreover many of these countries are becoming dependent economically on China. Many now expect China's GDP to overtake the US which will exert an influence even on Western countries.
The Trump administration and current antidemocratic tendencies in the Republican Party have sullied America's reputation. The rapid collapse of Afghanistan and America's abandonment will cause many to question America's trustworthiness as an ally. China's influence may not fully overtake that of the US but I believe it will be formidable.
There are people in the US, for instance, that are Sinophiles, though it may not be immediately obvious to those outside the country. In addition, the Chinese cultural sphere extends outward to most of East Asia. Meaning you can't make an in depth study of the culture of Korea, Japan, or Vietnam and not be somewhat familiar with the history and culture of China. China is as influential in East Asia as the Roman empire was in Europe, contributing architecture, pottery, writing, vocabulary, civic ethics and religion to all those aformentioned countries.
Secondly, modern China is not a country defined particularly by its religious heritage. It's a secular state that merely tolerates some expression of religion, though certain forms of traditional religion are coming back in popularity and support after several decades of repression during the Cultural Revolution.
Certainly no more than America, and perhaps less so.
What nonsense. Pure nonsense. Clearly you've confused propaganda with actual history.
It's more inward looking but it's model of civilization has always tended to be attractional rather than missionary.
Confucianism and legalism are already viable alternatives to many worldviews that are dying in the west. They've also been exported to plenty of non-Chinese countries in Asia throughout Chinese history. So I very much don't accept your conclusions on this point.
Hi,
I’m new to the forums, and I notice some predictable paths this board might be taking when they post their views towards China, and I feel like I have to get this out of my chest. It has been said that the Chinese is sinful because it is prideful. And while I agree pride is sinful, I don’t know if it’s exclusive to one race over the other. White worship is not biblical and is practiced in many parts of Asia that you guys seem to favor, and that is narcissistic and arrogant. And would claiming one non-white country prideful generalizing and considered dangerous, unless you are backing up the Old Testament that ethnic groups are more sinful than others and deserve to be destroyed whether by foreign governments or God himself. Did God say to hate his creation more than any other race? I would hope not. All have sinned and are not better than anyone else.
I say don’t fall for the political propaganda machine in the West even if these political party members align with your religious views. China never claimed to be more prideful than others. If China was more prideful, would that excuse all the interracial marriages in favor of white males that leave Asian males unbiblically marriage-less and all the racist remarks they’ve endured online cleared by God in heaven? Are not the racism they’ve endured make those that make those racist remarks considered just as prideful, if not more? We got the statistics. I would hope we would show some self-control. So essentially, would these people that are anti-China or Asian think they’ll be clear of sin when they get to heaven? I would hope not, otherwise, this is a God not worthy of my praise. It is not considered holy.
There are people in the US, for instance, that are Sinophiles, though it may not be immediately obvious to those outside the country. In addition, the Chinese cultural sphere extends outward to most of East Asia. Meaning you can't make an in depth study of the culture of Korea, Japan, or Vietnam and not be somewhat familiar with the history and culture of China. China is as influential in East Asia as the Roman empire was in Europe, contributing architecture, pottery, writing, vocabulary, civic ethics and religion to all those aformentioned countries.
Secondly, modern China is not a country defined particularly by its religious heritage. It's a secular state that merely tolerates some expression of religion, though certain forms of traditional religion are coming back in popularity and support after several decades of repression during the Cultural Revolution.
Certainly no more than America, and perhaps less so.
What nonsense. Pure nonsense. Clearly you've confused propaganda with actual history.
It's more inward looking but it's model of civilization has always tended to be attractional rather than missionary.
Confucianism and legalism are already viable alternatives to many worldviews that are dying in the west. They've also been exported to plenty of non-Chinese countries in Asia throughout Chinese history. So I very much don't accept your conclusions on this point.
The Chinese political system will continue to have little appeal to Western countries. However it's dynamic economic growth, including it's dramatic rebound from the Corona Virus will have an appeal to no Western countries many of which have authoritarian tendencies. Moreover many of these countries are becoming dependent economically on China. Many now expect China's GDP to overtake the US which will exert an influence even on Western countries.
The Trump administration and current antidemocratic tendencies in the Republican Party have sullied America's reputation. The rapid collapse of Afghanistan and America's abandonment will cause many to question America's trustworthiness as an ally. China's influence may not fully overtake that of the US but I believe it will be formidable.
A lot of people saw all along the end in Afghanistan being a replay of
Vietnam.
Except the Afghans won't get friendly, later.
We see erratic policies, american religion and "diversity" as great weakness.
China is not going to almost catch up, then stop short.
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