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Just because I'm friends with someone doesn't mean their friends will like me or want to make my acquaintance. I'd never assume that.
Everyone isn't a matchmaker. Some people enjoy it. Others don't. Especially if it causes problems in their friendship. I wouldn't recommend someone unless I knew their character and circumstances.
Or to teach young men how not to be so self entitled and useless at communicating people.If you really want to be realistic, if social change is not an option, forced castration, warfare to kill off males, abortions of male fetuses, or maybe eventually genetic modification.
yeah, I typically stopped asking people to introduce me to their friends long ago when I would find out they have no available friends or simply don't know unattached friends they could introduce me to...or...they just didn't feel comfortable playing matchmaker regardless.
And I don't feel comfortable to asking them to do so.
It isn't if you've been online for the length of time I have. Keep in mind, I had a large group of friends. I have a lot to draw from. Online relationships should be a red flag for most. If they can't talk outside of the Internet there's a reason. Reference this thread for insight.
The leap wasn't my suggestion of marriage. It was their willingness to present themselves to someone who said they weren't looking. The person may be taken, getting to know someone, just out a relationship, too busy, not ready, etc. To do so in light of their disinterest means you're playing the numbers, copying and pasting, or think you have a shot.
The Internet doesn't set aside the laws of propriety. If you wouldn't introduce yourself to another with that statement in person. Why would do the same at a distance? The distinction is important. It sheds light on their character and circumstances. Overfamiliarity is a faux pas. There's a cadence to relating.
This is the person I mentioned to @sampa. See the difference? This is a normal hello.
Dear X,
Thanks much for your insightful comment on my post. It led me to peek at your profile, which has, in turn, piqued my interest. I thoroughly understood your sentiments about X, particularly X as I know the country well and have considered often returning to it to live. I have friends and family in that green land.
I was drawn to your photo as well. Is it you? Is it an aspirational image?
Again, thank you for your note.
Sincerely yours,
X
To his credit he played this well. I commented on his thread and he thanked me for my feedback (and everyone else too). He used it as a lead-in. There wasn't a lot of interaction but I had a reference point. He has a strong profile too.
Life brings challenges we don't expect. No one avoids it. How we handle them is the difference. We may not like our circumstances but we can't unleash our anger on innocent people. That's wrong.
MGTOW's spend a lot of time discussing women for people who've gone their own way. Some incels want relationships and others don't. The majority want sex and power.
it is kind of sad though, that there's no way to approach a woman without it being creepy/weird. In the old days, our parents met their partners cold turkey.
I guess it's all about when is the right time to approach.
It's only creepy/weird if she's not attracted. If he is you make allowances.
well I mean I was just wondering how you came to that conclusion about them cause while I get that you weren't looking for a relationship on there, so any "candidates" seeking that would kind of seem irritating but, I didn't see anything in the posts that suggested they were married and cheating, so I was just confused.
Yeah I'm not entirely sure how sincere MGTOW's are, which is why I consider it sour grapes. I think they still want a relationship, but just pretend not to want it as a coping mechanism.
Having low opinions of women and then feeling entitled to one and being angry about it, now that's a dangerous man.
That is a horrible truth, I mean that's how things seem to operate.. but it is horrible all the same.
I'd think that.. on a first approach it wouldn't be sexual harassment just a rejection, and becoming sexual harassment if they persist after being refused, but sometimes it's considered harassment on the first approach now, making men kind of hesitant to even approach people as a result. Because it's more than a rejection, it can get them made social pariahs now, if not cost them a job.
He means that some people are in a situation where they're single and celibate, and not really voluntarily so, but wouldn't call themselves incels.
They may be unhappy about being single, but they're not angry about it and lashing out at other people about it.
LOL....funny you mention that. Guilty as charged here. Usually this is based on mutual friends you've shared with that person and someone else.
I'd sometimes introduce myself like, "Hey, I see we went to the same high school together" or "Hey, I see you know my friend Suzie, we both went to the same college, did you?" and so on.
Typically though, this method is kind of frowned upon. I recall a woman friend of mine post on her while that she'd unfriend any guy that would try to message her friends on her friends list.
You know, I've done that once...she didn't even like me asking about a certain woman on her friends list. It made her thing "Crap, he's been creepin' on my friends list!"
It was cringy in unto itself. Apparently, it was a co-worker of her's or something.
Back in the day that wasn't orchestrated by friends. Adults did the matchmaking. If you're in the same circles access is easier. But you weren't expected to setup your friends. There's an underlying issue too. If you've never struggled to make friends or meet the opposite sex you don't see the problem. It's not on your radar.
So my "circle of friends" did not overlap my "circle of interests" at all. My circle of friends were people within my physical spaces.
Or to teach young men how not to be so self entitled and useless at communicating people.
Head in the sand, why bother with reality when you can blame your problems on your scapegoat? I think it's primitive barbarism but it worked well for the Aztecs, to a point.
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