The virus vaccine and the mark of the beast

[SamanthaAnastasia]

You are over-thinking it. If you only get an injection in your shoulder or your butt, you haven't received the MoB.

Are you struggling with OCD?

Not only this but you don’t have to take a vaccine in order to buy or sell.

 

[Billy UK]

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[SamanthaAnastasia]

While I don’t doubt the possibility of a microchip being the mark of the beast, what I don’t understand is if it is the mark of the beast then can’t people just cut it out of their flesh?

 

[Billy UK]

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[Sunshinee777]

Note that the OP asks two questions, and that they'll tend to have opposite answers. No, it's not the mark of the beast, and yes, I'll get the vaccine. Is that "no" or "yes" in the poll?

You take Bill Gates vaccine? Good luck with that. I mean are you serious? Please, let it be just a joke.

 

[Leet]

No!
But there is a conditioning happening to the people of this world, to globalize, to get on board this and that for the "greater good" of all. You know? Which is all well and good but eventually it will turn dark, and the people will most likely be manipulated by fear.

 

[PloverWing]

You take Bill Gates vaccine? Good luck with that. I mean are you serious? Please, let it be just a joke.

Not a vaccine that he himself developed, no. He's a computer scientist, not a biologist. But a vaccine developed by biologists, and that has passed FDA approval, sure. Maybe the breakthrough will come from scientists funded by Gates' philanthropic organization, or maybe the funding will have been from the NIH or the South Korean government or the EU or somewhere else. All of our governments and many of our private organizations should be pouring research funding into fighting this thing.

 

[Scann]

While I don’t doubt the possibility of a microchip being the mark of the beast, what I don’t understand is if it is the mark of the beast then can’t people just cut it out of their flesh?

Are you asking the question "Can people escape damnation by cutting it out?" Sorry if you're not. But I'll answer based on that presumption. (Sorry Billy UK for copy-pasting your verses) The verses in Revelation 14:9-11 (KJV) say;

9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever.....

The verses say that those who receive the mark will be tormented forever. The verses don't say that only those who have it in embedded permanently in their forehead or hand will be tormented forever. So even if you can cut it out, you already made the choice for your own eternal torment when you first took it.

 

[expos4ever]

I would ask if they are a kingdom of God thing how cone in the past they have resulted in the death of those who took them.

I am not going to argue with you Billy - you cherry-pick your data and routinely engage in all manner of other distortions.

The uncomfortable fact is that vaccinations have historically been of tremendous benefit to humanity, as almost all experts will attest. You are forced to have to manufacture an elaborate conspiracy theory about how all these trained professionals are in league to harm us all. Not to mention the fact that you also need to explain how we got rid of smallpox and polio.

I will hitch my wagon to the horse-team of reality - you are free to do otherwise.

 

[Sparagmos]

What, exactly, is the policy in Michigan? Here in New Jersey, where there have been a lot of cases, there are strict restrictions about going out in public, but there are no restrictions on what you can grow in your back yard. There's no contagion issue with what I grow in my garden, if I eat it myself. Does Michigan really prohibit private vegetable gardens?

No, that is fake news.

 

[Sparagmos]

Yes, it seems. The governor there forced stores to tape of any seeds and home improvement things as non essential. She alone decided what was and was not essential. The poor people in Michigan are living under another kim jong un, it is much worse there than in California

SOME stores, and she certainly didn’t prohibit the sale of seeds or gardens. There ar3 still plenty of places to buy seeds.

 

[hedrick]

Please, folks, look at the Biblical text:

"Those who worship the beast and its image, and receive a mark on their foreheads or on their hands,"

Note the "worship." You don't need to worship an idol to get an immunization.

 

[expos4ever]

There is heavy irony here. Two thousand years ago, Jesus announced the in-breaking of the Kingdom of Heaven. And despite what your well-intentioned Sunday School teacher may have told you, this kingdom is not "where you go when you die". Instead, this is the establishment of God's kingdom here on earth.

I would have thought it very reasonable to suppose that one of the many ways that kingdom is growing to full flower would be the development of medical technologies that minimize human suffering. If Jesus really is in charge now (as I believe the Scriptures teach), surely He would be pleased that, on His watch, things like vaccinations are being developed. So to imagine they are something sinister seems bizarre in the extreme.

And even if you do not believe Jesus has yet been enthroned as King, surely you have to wonder why such life-saving and life-enhancing technology are the instruments of Satan. Why would Satan want smallpox to be eradicated, as it has by vaccine? Why would Satan want polio to crushed almost entirely out of existence, as it has, again, by vaccine?

 

[Scann]

There is heavy irony here. Two thousand years ago, Jesus announced the in-breaking of the Kingdom of Heaven. And despite what your well-intentioned Sunday School teacher may have told you, this kingdom is not "where you go when you die". Instead, this is the establishment of God's kingdom here on earth.

I would have thought it very reasonable to suppose that one of the many ways that kingdom is growing to full flower would be the development of medical technologies that minimize human suffering. If Jesus really is in charge now (as I believe the Scriptures teach), surely He would be pleased that, on His watch, things like vaccinations are being developed. So to imagine they are something sinister seems bizarre in the extreme.

And even if you do not believe Jesus has yet been enthroned as King, surely you have to wonder why such life-saving and life-enhancing technology are the instruments of Satan. Why would Satan want smallpox to be eradicated, as it has by vaccine? Why would Satan want polio to crushed almost entirely out of existence, as it has, again, by vaccine?

Satan saves your life but gets your eternal soul.

 

[expos4ever]

Satan saves your life but gets your eternal soul.

Well, you are free to see demons under every doily. Sounds neither realistic nor like fun.

 

[Scann]

Well, you are free to see demons under every doily. .

This is your post isn't it?

There is heavy irony here. Two thousand years ago, Jesus announced the in-breaking of the Kingdom of Heaven. And despite what your well-intentioned Sunday School teacher may have told you, this kingdom is not "where you go when you die". Instead, this is the establishment of God's kingdom here on earth.

I would have thought it very reasonable to suppose that one of the many ways that kingdom is growing to full flower would be the development of medical technologies that minimize human suffering. If Jesus really is in charge now (as I believe the Scriptures teach), surely He would be pleased that, on His watch, things like vaccinations are being developed. So to imagine they are something sinister seems bizarre in the extreme.

And even if you do not believe Jesus has yet been enthroned as King, surely you have to wonder why such life-saving and life-enhancing technology are the instruments of Satan. Why would Satan want smallpox to be eradicated, as it has by vaccine? Why would Satan want polio to crushed almost entirely out of existence, as it has, again, by vaccine?

I'm just replying mostly to the underlined quotes. Saving lives is not necessarily a good thing if Satan is making you choose between momentary life on Earth and your eternal soul. It doesn't mean saves lives=good. Especially not if Satan is behind it. If the Antichrist government was about to kill you if you don't take the mark, does that mean taking the mark,saving your own life and betraying God=good?

 

[Sketcher]

The Scriptures say its a sin to receive it, results in spending your eternity in the fires of hell.

Revelation 14:9-11 (KJV)

9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.​

Verse 9 itself says that receiving the mark is a consequence of worshiping the beast. Which is why verses 10-11 make sense.

 

[Neogaia777]

Verse 9 itself says that receiving the mark is a consequence of worshiping the beast. Which is why verses 10-11 make sense.

What constitutes "worship"...?

And is that why it is linked with not being able to buy or sell, etc...?

God Bless!

 

[Sketcher]

What constitutes "worship"...?

I'm pretty sure that we would be able to recognize it when it comes.

In the days of the Roman Empire, citizens were required to make a yearly sacrifice to the Emperor by throwing a small amount of salt into an altar. This act of worship was to show that they were patriotic Romans, and in the context of paganism, it made sense - you could worship multiple gods, and you didn't even have to be that serious about it. Christians refused, and many were taken prisoner and executed because they refused.

When the beast comes, it may be something like that - a small but undeniable act of worship to show you're a good citizen.

And is that why it is linked with not being able to buy or sell, etc...?

Tyranny. Persecutors have been very thorough in the past, this seems to follow the template. Make war on and kill all overt resistance (Rev. 13:15), then add a layer of worship to secure leadership and appear to let society rebuild (Rev. 13:16-17).

 

[Tom 1]

Is the supposed possbile vaccine the mark of the beast?

Does it look like this?