The Tulip is broken

[MamaZ]

I am not making personal attacks against you and if you are so sensitive you cannot endure criticism, then just don't post to me any more. And none of you have debated yet from a scriptural basis, but from a religious basis. I am the only one here making my case from what the scriptures clearly say and believing it. I happen to believe Jesus Christ tasted death for every man because he said he did.

Yes He did but no every man will be chosen plain and simple.. For it is to Gods chosing to whom He chooses to be gifted with saving Faith.. It is not for man to choose for men are fallen creatures who go after the lusts of the flesh and are inslaved to them.. You want men to believe that they are more than what they are. Fallen creatures.. Born in sin.. God is sovereign Men are not.. Until God opens the eyes and ears of men they cannot see nor hear.. Just as Jesus said in seeing they do not believe and in hearing they do not believe.. Read the full counsel of the word and learn to know God and His ways. Gods way is not our way and His thoughts are not our thoughts.. You come preaching against something you know very little about but because you have your own theory you believe it to be truth no matter how many times scripture has been shown to you.. You do not even have a answer to questions that are asked of you..

 

[nobdysfool]

I am not making personal attacks against you and if you are so sensitive you cannot endure criticism, then just don't post to me any more. And none of you have debated yet from a scriptural basis, but from a religious basis. I am the only one here making my case from what the scriptures clearly say and believing it. I happen to believe Jesus Christ tasted death for every man because he said he did.

You are personally attacking us. You have made enough comments about Calvinists for us to know that you view Calvinists, as a whole, as being unsaved. That is undeniable. We have asked you repeatedly for what you believe about the state of man, the role of Grace, and asked you how men can believe in that which they find foolish, as well as drawn the conclusions, from your own words, that you hold the Pelagian heresy, none of which you have addressed. You have avoided every question, and have not denied your Pelagian leanings. If we have drawn wrong conclusions, then you need to show us how they're wrong, and why. You have not done so.

I am making attacks against the system called tulip but i am not saying EVERYONE who embraces it is lost. Some people are in error and they will not have any rewards if they remain in this condition. For the final time, I do not know who is saved or lost but I do know when someone twists scripture.

We know when someone does, as well. And for you claim that you aren't saying that everyone who embraces Calvinist doctrine is lost, you are saying that most of them are, including those of us who oppose you and your false statements.

We can read, and we know what words mean. You aren't clever enough by half to fool us.

 

[visionary]

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