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au contrare - when I saw those tracts, exposing the devil, it was wonderful and simple and put ol' slew in his place.... let people know that they can laugh at him as God laughs at him,
because his power is all and only deception and lies .... like snaggletooth? the teeth have been taken out of his bite ..... his bark can simply be ignore, and he FLEES when we resist him....
Even the people who think they are so powerful and think they cannot be beat by little children ,
God laughs at their plans (the plans of the wicked) , and dismisses them quickly.
God is Faithful and True,
Rejoice and Be Glad,
as Jesus Says, we have much painful suffering,
but "I (Jesus) have overcome the world"
It takes , however long, to learn that 'love' is not what is 'love' in most groups.The point I am trying to make is that he focused a little too much on the enemy. I also think that while the fear of the Lord is important to teach, it should also be in proportion to God's love. Granted, I realize Jude talks about believers who pull others out of the fire with fear, but love should not be absent in that message - IMO.
He was a product of the evangelical culture of the 1950s and 60s. His emphases reflect that culture.The point I am trying to make is that he focused a little too much on the enemy. I also think that while the fear of the Lord is important to teach, it should also be in proportion to God's love.
It takes , however long, to learn that 'love' is not what is 'love' in most groups.
You said:Without obedience there is no love.
You said:Without a standard, and discipline, training, doing what is right, there is no love.
You said:Approving of sin , of darkness, leads to destruction, in self as well as outside of self.
You said:Love in Scripture as directed by Yahweh is a choice of the will (many examples / sermons online about this, for now, thankfully) . The choosing to obey Him, which is always the best, always doing what is best for everyone, for others especially.
YES! We can obey when we listen to Him as He Says >>Salvation is also about a changed life in Christ.
True. And if one is at least spreading the message at least they were "successful" in obeying the Lord.
You said:I do think seeing images can be powerful. The moving thing of "This Was Your Life" was to see the fear and terror on the man when it dawned on him what trouble he was in.
You said:Yeah maybe the story of the one caught in the act of adultery would be good too where Jesus says those wanting to condemn her, "He that is without sin let him cast the first stone!"
YES! We can obey when we listen to Him as He Says >>
Romans 12:2 - Bible Gateway
Romans 12:2 - Bible Gateway
Don't be like the people of this world, but let God change the way you think. ... world, but let God transform you inwardly by a complete change of your mind. ... is good, meets all his demands and moves towards the goal of true maturity. ... eating, going-to-work, and walking-around life—and place it before God as an offering.
Not really an issue with ChickTracts, but he represents them. Just mentioning it as a side note.Modern translations of the Bible...? How is that a Chick Tract issue?
If true, what Bible(s) does that leave us with?
There actually is good textual evidence that the Ecf were using texts much closer to what we call the Critical Greek texts than the TR....Not really an issue with ChickTracts, but he represents them. Just mentioning it as a side note.
The story about the codex is very interesting and has several facets. He lays out a pretty good case that the codex was likely produced in the middle ages. There are quotes from individuals who saw it and said it was printed on while vellum. But when Tischendorf presented it, it was potentially stained to make it look older. You can see actual pictures of it online.
If true, KJV only people would be very happy.
Not knowing the whole truth myself, all I can say is that is is a very interesting issue and should not be ignored.
I am against the theology of the Church of Rome. but not individual Catholics, as my prayer for them would be to be able to hear the real Gospel message, and to get born again from above!I remember these tracts from when I was a kid. There was a street corner evangelist downtown who was always handing them out. The comic book format I think had particular appeal to people my age.
I have a mixed opinion. I thought some of the points they made were Biblical and very much on-target. Particularly the issue of Hell being real. Many people just refuse to accept that anymore.
Some of it I just found plain ridiculous. As a Catholic I can tell you that bit about the Vatican having a computer in the basement that contains the names of every Protestant on Earth is just laughable. Take it from me, I belonged to the Catholic Church for half a century, and they are nowhere NEAR that organized!
Some struck me as weird at the time, but with hindsight gained more credibility. In particular the argument that the TV show Bewitched was inspired by the Devil and was doing his work by making witchcraft appear to be cute, innocent and attractive.
At the time that just seemed silly. But the more I think about it, a tremendous amount of damage has been inflicted upon our culture by the cumulative effect of television programs which, at the time, seemed harmless. Plus I came to learn that nearly every cast member of Bewitched died before their time from something horrible.
Jack Chick was widely regarded as anti-Catholic. Despite this I don't hold any particular grudge against him. I found many of the things he said in his tracts to be true and relevant, and we all see darkly through a glass. And not every criticism of the Catholic Church is invalid, nor does it make you anti-Catholic.
Although if they were capable of databasing the name of every Protestant on Earth you'd think they would be able to get my parish's website to quit crashing!
One of my big grievances about that sort of “Chick lit” is not the fairytales about Catholicism, which in some ways are par for the course - people often have crazy notions about groups they don’t belong to - but, the blunders about Babylonian & Egyptian religion in the Chick lit.Discuss your grievances with Jack Chick's eponymous tracts here, instead of my Graphic Tracts thread.
I’m not into tracts. One one one or more discourses only just like Jesus.Discuss your grievances with Jack Chick's eponymous tracts here, instead of my Graphic Tracts thread.
Jude 1:23 says: “And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire;”I find these tracts to have a cult-like look and tone to them. Many of them use fear as a means to persuade people to repent or suffer for all eternity--I find this to be a huge error. The bible is clear that it is not the Christian's job to convict others of their sins, but the Holy Spirit's. It is the Christian's job to share the Good News, and in a loving manner--not using fear. I don't find any fault with Jack Chick's intentions, but the motives used are wrong altogether IMHO.
I was saved by a Chick tract called “This Was Your Life.” I was radically changed by calling upon the name of the Lord Jesus for salvation by this tract in 1992.I find these tracts to have a cult-like look and tone to them. Many of them use fear as a means to persuade people to repent or suffer for all eternity--I find this to be a huge error. The bible is clear that it is not the Christian's job to convict others of their sins, but the Holy Spirit's. It is the Christian's job to share the Good News, and in a loving manner--not using fear. I don't find any fault with Jack Chick's intentions, but the motives used are wrong altogether IMHO.
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