The Three Beasts

[Douggg]

The three beasts that John saw in Revelation 17, 12, 13.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

That third beast is a hybrid.

 

[Douggg]

That third beast is a hybrid.

Like a mixture ?

Since the beast kingdom, which the little horn person comes out of, is the fourth kingdom of Daniel 7 in the end times (the EU) - my interpretation of the appearance of the beast coming out of sea is that....

With 42 months left in the 7 years , the EU will have gained control over the geographic territories once held by the Babylonian, Medo-Persian, Greek empires.

 

[3 Resurrections]

Do you not have a graphic for the Land Beast of Revelation 13:11 to include above ?

If you don't include the Revelation 13:11 Beast from the Land, then you have taken away from the prophecies of the book of Revelation - not a recommended action.

Also, Satan is NEVER referred to as one of the Beasts in scripture. This is something you are adding to the prophecies - again, not a recommended action.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Like a mixture ?

Since the beast kingdom, which the little horn person comes out of, is the fourth kingdom of Daniel 7 in the end times (the EU) - my interpretation of the appearance of the beast coming out of sea is that....

With 42 months left in the 7 years , the EU will have gained control over the geographic territories once held by the Babylonian, Medo-Persian, Greek empires.


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I like your charts. . They help me see the different angles of the end times. However,You do not incorporate the supernatural and how satan and his angels will manifest in the end times. We live in a world where deception is rampant.I keep saying that the antichrist will be a transhuman. Nobody wants to see that or consider that. But technology is headed that way. He mght come out of Europe. But, I think not. I agree with you that he will be a Jew,but not fully. He will be Jewish enough to claim the lineage of David, but corrupt enough for satan ti indwell. That's my opinion.

 

[Douggg]

Do you not have a graphic for the Land Beast of Revelation 13:11 to include above ?

No, I don't. At least not yet.

If you don't include the Revelation 13:11 Beast from the Land, then you have taken away from the prophecies of the book of Revelation - not a recommended action.

I agree, the beast out of the earth is one of the main persons in the end times prophecies.

Also, Satan is NEVER referred to as one of the Beasts in scripture. This is something you are adding to the prophecies - again, not a recommended action.

Satan is named as the Great Red Dragon beast in Revelation 12:9.

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

 

[Douggg]

I like your charts. . They help me see the different angles of the end times. However,You do not incorporate the supernatural and how satan and his angels will manifest in the end times. We live in a world where deception is rampant.I keep saying that the antichrist will be a transhuman. Nobody wants to see that or consider that. But technology is headed that way. He mght come out of Europe. But, I think not. I agree with you that he will be a Jew,but not fully. He will be Jewish enough to claim the lineage of David, but corrupt enough for satan ti indwell. That's my opinion.

little horn > becomes the prince who shall come > then becomes the Antichrist > then becomes the revealed man of sin > then becomes the beast.

I don't think Satan will indwell the person when he becomes the beast.

Satan could maybe for a short period enter the revealed man of sin (called the son of perdition - a name shared by Judas when Satan entered him - in 2Thessalonians2:3-4) to carry out the Transgression of Desolation act of going into the temple, sitting, claiming to have achieved God-hood.

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

The ancestry of the person is that he will be a Jew, and also descended from the Julio-Claudian bloodline.

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Satan, when he gets cast down to earth for the time/times/half time, will manifest himself by incarnating the abomination of desolation statue imagine of the beast - making it appear to come alive and speak. He will not be outwardly visible until the very end of the time/times/half time.

At Jesus's Return, Satan will be exposed to be literally seen by all present that day.

Shown on my graphic below.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

The ancestry of the person is that he will be a Jew, and also descended from the Julio-Claudian bloodline.

OK, but Can you explain why he will come from the Julio-Claudian bloodline? I am struggling to adjust my thinking to see how this is a possibility.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Satan, when he gets cast down to earth for the time/times/half time, will manifest himself by incarnating the abomination of desolation statue imagine of the beast - making it appear to come alive and speak. He will not be outwardly visible until the very end of the time/times/half time.

So what do you think the great deception is?

 

[3 Resurrections]

Satan is named as the Great Red Dragon beast in Revelation 12:9.

The word "Beast" is never used for the Dragon. Not even in Revelation 12:9.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

The word "Beast" is never used for the Dragon. Not even in Revelation 12:9.

You deny that a dragon is a beast?

 

[Douggg]

So what do you think the great deception is?

Regarding Satan himself, I think it is talking about his general approach to get people away from the truth.

If I were to pick a specific great deception, imo, it is how he deceives the world into thinking the come-to- life, living, speaking, abomination of desolation image of the beast - that it is some divine presence who has presented himself to the world through the statue.

 

[3 Resurrections]

You deny that a dragon is a beast?

I deny that scripture ever refers to Satan or the Dragon as a "Beast". You won't find a verse that says so. We are not at liberty to put our own classifications into Revelation or Daniel. We have to stick to the script that is given to us.

The "Beast" kingdoms in prophetic scriptures always referred to kingdoms of human origin. The Dragon / Satan was an evil angelic being who attempted to ruin God's plans for the nations of men by using his evil influence behind the scenes of those nations and kingdoms. Ultimately to no avail, since Christ now wears all those "many crowns". All power has been given unto Him in heaven and in earth, as Christ told the disciples before His final ascension.

 

[Douggg]

The "Beast" kingdoms in prophetic scriptures always referred to kingdoms of human origin.

Satan as the Great Red Dragon being a beast - is not calling him a kingdom.

Satan is, however, the king of the mystical Babylon the Great kingdom of Satan and his angels. which is responsible for all slain upon the earth beginning with Abel.

 

[Spiritual Jew]

Scripture differentiates between the dragon, the beast and the false prophet/second beast. The dragon is Satan, not the beast. This is yet another view you have all to yourself, Dougggggggg.

 

[Douggg]

The dragon is Satan, not the beast. This is yet another view you have all to yourself, Dougggggggg.

You need to be more specific of what of mean by "the beast". I have never claimed that Satan is the beast person who, along with the false prophet, gets cast alive into the lake of fire at Jesus's Return.

 

[Spiritual Jew]

You need to be more specific of what of mean by "the beast".

In your original post you indicated that the beast referenced in Revelation 17 is Satan. But, that can't be the case since the book of Revelation consistently refers to Satan as the dragon and not the beast. It doesn't get any more simple than this, but I know that won't stop you from making things as convoluted as possible.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Satan as the Great Red Dragon being a beast - is not calling him a kingdom.

Satan is, however, the king of the mystical Babylon the Great kingdom of Satan and his angels. which is responsible for all slain upon the earth beginning with Abel.

Thanks.I agree. The unsaved world system ( Babylon) is ruled by the evil one.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

You need to be more specific of what of mean by "the beast". I have never claimed that Satan is the beast person who, along with the false prophet, gets cast alive into the lake of fire at Jesus's Return.

What happens to Abaddon/Apollyon?

 

[Douggg]

In your original post you indicated that the beast referenced in Revelation 17 is Satan. But, that can't be the case since the book of Revelation consistently refers to Satan as the dragon and not the beast. It doesn't get any more simple than this, but I know that won't stop you from making things as convoluted as possible.

You need to be more specific when you refer to "the beast". I wrote that the scarlet beast in Revelation 17 is Satan.

The Great Red Dragon in Revelation 12 is stated in Revelation 12:9 as being Satan.

Red dragon with 7 heads 10 horns = Scarlet beast with 7 heads 10 horns.