The Supreme Court's Presidential Immunity Ruling, Does Not Affect Trump's Classified Document Indictment

[Stephen3141]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/09/opinions/trump-immunity-florida-classified-documents-eisen-parlatore-kolb/index.html

The Supreme Court's recent ruling that official acts of the sitting President,
(that are taken as a result from the President's responsibilities), is irrelevant
to Trump's Classified documents trial.

This is because the indictment about classified documents, is about Trump
retaining classified documents AFTER he ceased being President, and is
about Trump's refusal to return those classified documents AFTER he ceased
being President.

These actions by Trump, were not done while he was President.
They CANNOT be official acts of the President.
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As the article argues, the claim that no legal action can be taken against Trump,
within 60 days of an impending election, is a misunderstanding of the 60 day
legal ruling. That ruling prevents NEW indictments to be brought, within 60
days of a candidate's impending election.

The indictments against Trump, were not brought within 60 days of the
coming Fall election.

Trump is trying to put off his trials. But he has no argument for delaying them,
from the Supreme Court's decision about Presidential immunity, nor from the
legal "60-day" ruling.

 

[Malleeboy]

Won't get to trial before he wins, and once he wins, as it is a Federal crime, he can pardon himself.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

The documents were Trumps while he was president, so it does have some relevancy to the ruling.

That being said, Biden kept classified documents in his garage and basement going back to when
he was a senator. Yet, the DOJ never brought charges against him, just Trump, showing how this
administration has weaponized the DOJ.

 

[iluvatar5150]

The documents were Trumps while he was president, so it does have some relevancy to the ruling.

That being said, Biden kept classified documents in his garage and basement going back to when
he was a senator. Yet, the DOJ never brought charges against him, just Trump, showing how this
administration has weaponized the DOJ.

Biden and Pence were never charged because they never tried to obstruct the Archives’ attempts to get the documents back. Why do you guys keep ignoring that?

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Biden and Pence were never charged because they never tried to obstruct the Archives’ attempts to get the documents back. Why do you guys keep ignoring that?

Neither did Trump try to obstruct, but tried to keep his private property from being ransacked by the government.

Stalinists agree with such moves by the government.

 

[BBAS 64]

In a 93 page ruling dismissing the case, the Judge basically said the appointment of Special Counsel Jack Smith was / is unlawful.

Trump classified documents case dismissed based on 'unconstitutional' prosecutor appointment

A judge dismissed the criminal case against former President Donald Trump over his handling of classified documents.

www.usatoday.com

 

[Malleeboy]

Did the original poster not read Clarence's concurrence in the Presidential Immunity case, which the Florida judge has basically followed?

 

[Ace777]

This is because the indictment

It is because it is up to the legislative branch to impeach a president. It is not up to the judicial system. This is what is known as balance of power.

 

[civilwarbuff]

https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/09/opinions/trump-immunity-florida-classified-documents-eisen-parlatore-kolb/index.html

The Supreme Court's recent ruling that official acts of the sitting President,
(that are taken as a result from the President's responsibilities), is irrelevant
to Trump's Classified documents trial.

This is because the indictment about classified documents, is about Trump
retaining classified documents AFTER he ceased being President, and is
about Trump's refusal to return those classified documents AFTER he ceased
being President.

These actions by Trump, were not done while he was President.
They CANNOT be official acts of the President.
---------- ----------

As the article argues, the claim that no legal action can be taken against Trump,
within 60 days of an impending election, is a misunderstanding of the 60 day
legal ruling. That ruling prevents NEW indictments to be brought, within 60
days of a candidate's impending election.

The indictments against Trump, were not brought within 60 days of the
coming Fall election.

Trump is trying to put off his trials. But he has no argument for delaying them,
from the Supreme Court's decision about Presidential immunity, nor from the
legal "60-day" ruling.

This should never be about Trump refusing to give back classified records. The criminal act would be in possessing those records after leaving office/no longer having the need to possess them/no longer having the authority to possess them (assuming they are classified). Given that then both Biden and Pence are guilty of the same crime. If someone steals your car, gets caught and then says "Oh, yeah. He/she can have their car back; that's fine with me." are they any less guilty of auto theft?

 

[Ace777]

This should never be about Trump refusing to give back classified records.

It was just garbage that got shipped to the wrong place. It happens all the time that people are sloppy and make a mess and do not clean up after themselves. A lot of it was just empty folders.

 

[civilwarbuff]

It was just garbage that got shipped to the wrong place. It happens all the time that people are sloppy and make a mess and do not clean up after themselves. A lot of it was just empty folders.

Pence and Biden must have the same trash service........

 

[iluvatar5150]

This should never be about Trump refusing to give back classified records. The criminal act would be in possessing those records after leaving office/no longer having the need to possess them/no longer having the authority to possess them (assuming they are classified). Given that then both Biden and Pence are guilty of the same crime. If someone steals your car, gets caught and then says "Oh, yeah. He/she can have their car back; that's fine with me." are they any less guilty of auto theft?

Several of the charges are for obstruction because he refused to give them back when asked.

It was just garbage that got shipped to the wrong place. It happens all the time that people are sloppy and make a mess and do not clean up after themselves. A lot of it was just empty folders.

lol wut? No.

Here’s the indictment, which includes a timeline and pics of the boxes on site, since you guys are apparently missing a bunch of facts about the case:

The Trump Classified Documents Indictment, Annotated (Published 2023)

The indictment centers on Donald J. Trump’s handling of sensitive government documents after he left office.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Ace777]

Pence and Biden must have the same trash service.......

I think that job is done by students that are basically still in training.

President Biden and Vice President Harris are announcing today that the application period for the Spring 2025 session of the White House Internship Program will open on Wednesday, June 26th. The session will begin in January 2025.

Biden-Harris Administration Announces the Application Period for Spring 2025 session of the White House Internship Program | The White House

President Biden and Vice President Harris are announcing today that the application period for the Spring 2025 session of the White House Internship

www.whitehouse.gov

 

[civilwarbuff]

President Biden and Vice President Harris are announcing today that the application period for the Spring 2025 session of the White House Internship Program will open on Wednesday, June 26th. The session will begin in January 2025.

Good way to slip in some sleeper agents just in case Harris falls on her face.....as is expected.......