How can anyone get a clear picture of the creator by observing what it created.
Hi again PP, there is, of course, the Bible, which is a proven historic record, replete with such evidence (of God's very real power as seen in the world, and in/through the lives of both the Jews (and those who came before them) and of Christians, of course.Evidence would start with observing the very real power of God, especially among the Christian quarter.
Because most hate the Light that He may expose their deeds.If Jesus (AKA God) is evident, that you can prove to other's that he is real (And God) That his invisible qualities are clearly seen in nature, then why aren't we all Christian's?
What evidence have you examined if at all?If you have undeniable, irrefutable proof that your God is real, then why am I not convinced by your evidence. If God is as real as the earth is round or the sky is blue, why would any rational person deny that.
Not everyone believes the earth is a sphere, that's why.If God is as real as the earth is round or the sky is blue, why would any rational person deny that.
Accuracy of historical events in the Bible & the gospel account's.Because most hate the Light that He may expose their deeds.
What evidence have you examined if at all?
How do I know you're rational? How do I know to what degree your rationality is? Is it 100% perfect? Is your judgment infallible? If you were to say it is, I'd have to conclude you were either a fool or a liar. If you were to say it isn't, then why should I not conclude that your lack of acceptance of God is not due to those rational deficiencies you admit to having?Dear Christian,.
If Jesus (AKA God) is evident, that you can prove to other's that he is real (And God) That his invisible qualities are clearly seen in nature, then why aren't we all Christian's?
If you have undeniable, irrefutable proof that your God is real, then why am I not convinced by your evidence. If God is as real as the earth is round or the sky is blue, why would any rational person deny that.
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What leads you to believe Amy of the above are in contrast with the other?Accuracy of historical events in the Bible & the gospel account's.
Secular evidence for Biblical events & there account's.
The psychological effects that hell has on humans, especially children.
Scientific evidence that contradicts Biblical notions & current Biblical concepts of our universe.
Christian behavior & their inability to replicate Jesus known abilities.
People don’t deny the true God because of a lack of evidence - at least this is not the deepest and truest reason. The purposes of a man’s heart are deep waters, but a man of understanding will draw them out. Some people think they reject God because of a lack of evidence, but this is a veneer which is covering the real reason. The real reason that people reject the true God is that they hate Him. They reject any person who wishes to assert his authority over themselves. They love themselves and their autonomy. So they hate God, especially when He demands something of them which they would not demand of themselves.
I'm not sure what you're saying, sorry.What leads you to believe Amy of the above are in contrast with the other?
"There's safty in the multitude of evidence"How do I know you're rational? How do I know to what degree your rationality is? Is it 100% perfect? Is your judgment infallible? If you were to say it is, I'd have to conclude you were either a fool or a liar. If you were to say it isn't, then why should I not conclude that your lack of acceptance of God is not due to those rational deficiencies you admit to having?
What leads you to believe any of the statements you made to me are valid or even in conflict?I'm not sure what you're saying, sorry.
Accuracy of historical events in the Bible & the gospel account's.
Secular evidence for Biblical events & there account's.
The psychological effects that hell has on humans, especially children.
Scientific evidence that contradicts Biblical notions & current Biblical concepts of our universe.
Christian behavior & their inability to replicate Jesus known abilities.
There valid because they prove these religious beliefs false from different angles, but there is more evidence than what I outlined. You only need to research & study enough material to get a clear picture.What leads you to believe any of the statements you made to me are valid or even in conflict?
Can you point out any evidence you presented? I did see some philosophical presuppositions.There valid because they prove these religious beliefs false from different angles, but there is more evidence than what I outlined. You only need to research & study enough material to get a clear picture.
As uncomfortable as I was in Christ Jesus, I didn't just fold up my tent and walk away. Who in their right mind would walk away knowing that it would end in eternal hell fire. Simply put, you need a strong case built on evidence that hell is a mythology concept to transition over to non belief.Can you point out any evidence you presented? I did see some philosophical presuppositions.
Yes, I've read the Bible, I get the point of it all.I believe God is real because His Word promises us everlasting life ( Romans 10:9-13 );this world is tragic but His Word has overcome it ( John 16:33 ).His commandments tell us how we need to live ( Matthew 19:16-19, Romans 13:8-10 ), we are unable to do this though but God still loves us ( John 3:16-21 ).
We cannot live without our conscience but it often fails due to our sin ( or faults if you may ).
Our conscience needs a higher authority ( other than God it might be good or bad). We can at least try to love our neighbor even if we do not believe in God ( Matthew 22:36-40 ) & treat each other accordingly ( Matthew 7:1-12 ).
Collectively we fail the virtues ( Beatitudes Matthew 5:1-12 ) only God can know who succeeds ( & some must).
I believe God told the ancient Hebrews the way of life & death by following or failing His commandments ( Deuteronomy 30:11-20 ) & subconsciously to all people ( Acts of the Apostles 10:34-35 ). It is here where His attributes are known & how we rebel & self destruct ( Romans 1:18-29 ). Of course some do what is right vs wrong & the Lord will determine the righteous; even those who may not have known Him ( see Romans 2 (& also the Beatitudes again).
I believe it is only by grace we are saved and do what is good ( Ephesians 2:8-10 ).
All I can say to someone is examine their conscience and hope that they find that the kingdom of God is within ( Luke 17:20-21 ).
Who exactly is the real Jesus? None of us start off in faith knowing the real Jesus, that's why it's faith, because you can't see who the real Jesus is. Isn't the idea of believing in Jesus just to believe, after that his spirit comes and makes himself known to you.Unbelievers do not believe in Jesus because they love darkness. John chapter 3 I think. It is possible for christians to sin. I am not here to judge anyone. Pride can keep an unbeliever from believing in Jesus. You need to call on the real Jesus Christ to reveal Himself to you and He will. Good behavior cannot save us. A person who has received eternal life cannot lose eternal life.
What do you mean by you were in Christ Jesus?As uncomfortable as I was in Christ Jesus, I didn't just fold up my tent and walk away.
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