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The struggle to replace the Bible

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Hello there.
If we want to continue having a place where all religions may post under one roof we need some rules.
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Masihi

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Hello again Smaneck,
I am a little puzzled at your statement of "..contradictions...can be found in the Bible as well." Could you possibly give an example or two? And also, remember that there is a difference between 'contradiction' and 'out of context.'
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Devin

2 Samuel 8:3-4:
"David also struck down King Hadadezer son of Rehob of Zobah, as he went to restore his monument at the river Euphrates. David took from him one thousand seven hundred horsemen, and twenty thousand foot soldiers. David hamstrung all the chariot horses, but left enough for a hundred chariots."

1 Chronicles 18:3-4:
"David also struck down King Hadadezer of Zobah, toward Hamath, as he went to set up a monument at the river Euphrates. David took from him one thousand chariots, seven thousand cavalry, and twenty thousand foot soldiers. David hamstrung all the chariot horses, but left one hundred of them."

-CryptoLutheran
2 Samuel 8.4 (from Septuagint, older than Masoretic text and more accurate, II Kings 8.4)
"And David took a thousand of his chariots, and seven thousand horsemen, and twenty thousand footmen: and David houghed all his chariot horses, and he reserved to himself a hundred chariots."

1 Chronicles 18.4
"And David took from him a thousand chariots, and seven thousand horsemen, and twenty thousand footmen: David also houghed all the chariot horses, but reserved of them an hundred chariots."

Contradictions in Bible?
 
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Masihi

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Continuing on #4, a Contradiction in quran
"...verily a day in the sight of 'allah' is like a thousand years of your reckoning." sura 22.47
AND
"... in the end will go up to him, on a day, the space whereof will be a thousand years of your reckoning." sura 32.5

BUT
"The angels and the spirit ascend to him in a day the measure whereof is fifty thousand years:" sura 70.4

Study:
1) The same arabic word for day is used in both instances, "yawmin", so there is no doubt as to the term.
2) The same period of time is being addressed, in this case "one day".
3) The audience is the same, in this case 'allah' (the him).
4) contradiction: one day equals a thousand years OR one day equals fifty thousand years
Some may address the "going to him". Whether something ascends or not, the same term and measure of a thousand years is seen in 22.47. So whether something ascends has no bearing.
 
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Continuing on #4, a Contradiction in quran
"...verily a day in the sight of 'allah' is like a thousand years of your reckoning." sura 22.47
AND
"... in the end will go up to him, on a day, the space whereof will be a thousand years of your reckoning." sura 32.5

BUT
"The angels and the spirit ascend to him in a day the measure whereof is fifty thousand years:" sura 70.4

Study:
1) The same arabic word for day is used in both instances, "yawmin", so there is no doubt as to the term.
2) The same period of time is being addressed, in this case "one day".
3) The audience is the same, in this case 'allah' (the him).
4) contradiction: one day equals a thousand years OR one day equals fifty thousand years
Some may address the "going to him". Whether something ascends or not, the same term and measure of a thousand years is seen in 22.47. So whether something ascends has no bearing.


And this is different from the Bible, how? It is an accepted principle in the interpretation of biblical prophecy that a day represents a year:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day-year_principle

Yet other verses like 2 Peter 3:8 or Psalm 90:4 indicate a day is a thousand years.
 
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