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Madison Cawthorn is your problem, not mine. Personally, I don't care what you guys do so long as you don't bother other people with it.

You seem to have special insight on how Madison Cawthorn in your mind is related to drag queen story time and confused males wanting go to the girls bathroom. You are a fact based person, post the links that make this connection or any other dirt you wish to throw out. You bring up Madison frequently with no explanation. Where's the beef?
 
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I thought 2000 mules was somewhat compelling. Was all of that simply a false construct?

I have watched the video and found it very compelling. I have heard no compelling rebuttal only personal attacks and factless opinions.
 
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You seem to have special insight on how Madison Cawthorn in your mind is related to drag queen story time and confused males wanting go to the girls bathroom.

Look up "Madison Cawthorn" and "women's underwear."

You are a fact based person, post the links that make this connection or any other dirt you wish to throw out. You bring up Madison frequently with no explanation.

You brought up the subject. If you didn't want to hear about it, probably a bad idea to have done that.
 
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I have watched the video and found it very compelling.

His failure to show that any of those people were actually illegally depositing ballots pretty much disposed of his argument. Incidentally, in some states, it's legal for a family member to drop off ballots in a box. And he didn't tell you that, did he? Guess why.

I have heard no compelling rebuttal only personal attacks and factless opinions.

It's a fact that this guy is a felon, convicted of election crimes. If you still want to believe him, that's your issue.
 
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There was more to it than this characterization.

Show us that. But if he was willing to lie about that, and he's been convicted of election crimes, why would you believe anything he had to say about it?

Anyway, show us what else there was, and the evidence for it, and we'll talk about it.

You discount the actual video footage and make light of GPS capabilities used by law enforcement, intel agencies and the military.

They wouldn't be dumb enough to argue that if someone was on the same bloc as a ballot drop, that meant they were putting ballots in it. That's beyond stupid. Or maybe he just figured the guys watching the film would be stupid enough to believe it. One of those.

Not to mention video footage of a brazen dump of ballots in broad day light with many onlookers.

I saw one of those. A woman dropped several ballots off. But in a state where it's legal to do that for your family members. But if you have a counter-example, by all means show us, with checkable evidence.

You like facts so watch the movie then make your comments until then your analysis is of no value.

We'll know that when you post the evidence, won't we?
 
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Anyway, show us what else there was, and the evidence for it, and we'll talk about it.

Thats a safe argument for you since you are not interested in watching the film for yourself. If I ever find the full video on youtube you bet I'll post it. Until then you can hide behind your show us the evidence rant. Maybe you will donate enough so I can buy the software to copy it from my DVD and post it.

They wouldn't be dumb enough to argue that if someone was on the same bloc as a ballot drop, that meant they were putting ballots in it. That's beyond stupid. Or maybe he just figured the guys watching the film would be stupid enough to believe it. One of those.

This just tells everyone who did watch the video you don't know what you are talking about.

I saw one of those. A woman dropped several ballots off. But in a state where it's legal to do that for your family members. But if you have a counter-example, by all means show us, with checkable evidence.

Again this just shows you don't know what your are talking about.

We'll know that when you post the evidence, won't we?

If I had the means to post the DVD I would , so I guess for now we are stuck with your clueless uninformed analysis.
 
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Look up "Madison Cawthorn" and "women's underwear."

I saw those pictures. The ball is in your court to explain how a stupid, perverted party prank is the moral equivalent of drag Queen story time fore elementary kids and confused males wanting to go in female restrooms. I really don't blame you for dodging this so diligently because this liberal insanity cannot be defended .
 
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It's a fact that this guy is a felon, convicted of election crimes. If you still want to believe him, that's your issue.

It's not about him its about the facts and since you've never watched the video you wouldn't know that. You can rant all you want about something you know nothing about , "that's your issue".
 
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It's not about him

The credibility of the message depends on the guy selling it. That's how it works. And as you see, he was rather easily exposed in one of the scams he was promoting.
 
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saw those pictures. The ball is in your court

He's your guy, not ours. I get that you don't want to defend him. But there he is. Or would you rather defend your guy whose buddy confessed that they paid a minor for sex?

Tell you what; If you tell me that these two perverts are despicable and should never have been elected to Congress, I'll tell you that drag queens should not be doing lessons in elementary schools, and males should go to male restrooms. Fair? In fact, I'll just tell you that now, even if you like perverts like those two in Congress. But let us know what you think.
 
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Anyway, show us what else there was, and the evidence for it, and we'll talk about it.

Thats a safe argument for you since you are not interested in watching the film for yourself.

That's like the guy trying to convince me to join his Amway pyramid scheme who says, "I can't tell you about it, just watch the video." And red flags go up. For the obvious reasons.

If you don't understand the film well enough to explain it here, what makes you think it's telling you the truth?
 
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Just what is it exactly you don’t understand about the creation of man and woman? What is it about the fall in the Genesis account you don’t understand? Would it make more sense to you if I said women after the fall who could not bear children were missing the Y chromosome but had a physical problem that caused them to not have the ability to bear children. That changes nothing about the answer I gave to your question. Before the fall of man (and woman) God never intended that some women would be barren just like He never intended for some women to get breast cancer. The fall did happen and some women without the Y chromosome are barren and some without the Y chromosome get breast cancer. Is that clear now?
I think you are confused
 
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Anyway, show us what else there was, and the evidence for it, and we'll talk about it.


That's like the guy trying to convince me to join his Amway pyramid scheme who says, "I can't tell you about it, just watch the video." And red flags go up. For the obvious reasons.

If you don't understand the film well enough to explain it here, what makes you think it's telling you the truth?
You seem to believe you can refute it without actually watching it. So I’m sure you would take my word for anything in the video.
 
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He's your guy, not ours. I get that you don't want to defend him. But there he is. Or would you rather defend your guy whose buddy confessed that they paid a minor for sex?

Tell you what; If you tell me that these two perverts are despicable and should never have been elected to Congress, I'll tell you that drag queens should not be doing lessons in elementary schools, and males should go to male restrooms. Fair? In fact, I'll just tell you that now, even if you like perverts like those two in Congress. But let us know what you think.
We can probably agree on one thing here, perverts should not be elected to congress. I do believe anyone should have their day in court when charged with such crimes. So it is conviction in the media I am against. Works the same for Democrats as Republicans or at least it should. But really this is not comparing apples to apples. The examples I gave are ideologies supported by a large number of liberals even though they are NT drag queens themselves or confused about their sexual identity. That is far more dangerous than one or two perverts who got elected. That is promoting deviant behavior to our youth in mass. Trying to change the fabric of society. I am in no way defending perversion of any type but trying to point out the potential harm to society.
 
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The credibility of the message depends on the guy selling it. That's how it works. And as you see, he was rather easily exposed in one of the scams he was promoting.
No, that is not necessarily how it works. The facts or message overrides the messenger every time. Truth is truth even if a liar gives it. You may want to be more discerning in you examination of the facts. Truth does not change because of the failure of men.
 
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The credibility of the message depends on the guy selling it. That's how it works. And as you see, he was rather easily exposed in one of the scams he was promoting.

No, that is not necessarily how it works.

That's how it works. Not only did he push a scam, he's been convicted of election crimes himself. He's a criminal. He lies, and lies on official documents. Why would you trust him at all? You may want to be more discerning in your examination of the facts.
 
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We can probably agree on one thing here, perverts should not be elected to congress. I do believe anyone should have their day in court when charged with such crimes.

It's not a crime to be a pervert. Well, it might be in the case of Matt Gaetz; if the girl really was a minor at the time, that would be a crime. Cawthorne was booted by his constituents, not because there's a law against him being a pervert. Notice that Gaetz is notorious for his sexual preferences, but is still serving.

But generally not a crime.

The examples I gave are ideologies supported by a large number of liberals even though they are NT drag queens themselves or confused about their sexual identity.

You didn't show that, actually. But Madison Cawthorn and Matt Gaetz are/were republican congressmen. No hiding that stuff.
 
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