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Thanks. IM not interested anymore. Whatever people want to be true is true as far as i am concerned. Its not my problem.
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St. Paul was an important co-worker with Christ. But that doesn't make him God. Mary, our Mediatrix with Christ and Co-Redemptrix is not God. She is the Mother of God.
St. Paul was an important co-worker with Christ. But that doesn't make him God. Mary, our Mediatrix with Christ and Co-Redemptrix is not God. She is the Mother of God.
First, Mary is God's mother, then you say she's his daughter, and now we're back to mother again. It almost sounds like you're just making this stuff up as you go along, which is worse than following oral traditions. Why not just stick to the facts and the written word of God?
As Christians we are all co-heirs with the Son and are able to call God, Father. Mary is also a child of God in that sense, but she is also the mother of Jesus Christ who is God, so she is also mother of God.First, Mary is God's mother, then you say she's his daughter, and now we're back to mother again. It almost sounds like you're just making this stuff up as you go along, which is worse than following oral traditions. Why not just stick to the facts and the written word of God?
The holy creature Mary is the Created Daughter of God the Father, the Mother of God the Son, and the Wife of God the Holy Spirit.
The written Word of God says to hold fast to both the written and oral traditions.
What an unbelievably base and carnal interpretation.So Mary is the Father's daughter, yet she gave birth to the Father's Son. In order for this to not be totally perverted, Mary would have to be God the Father's wife. Otherwise, you're saying God the Father had incest with His own daughter in order to give birth to the Son; Jesus Christ.
With respect, your understanding is flawed, most likely because of the teaching you received from the Catholic Church.
So Mary is the Father's daughter, yet she gave birth to the Father's Son. In order for this to not be totally perverted, Mary would have to be God the Father's wife. Otherwise, you're saying God the Father had incest with His own daughter in order to give birth to the Son; Jesus Christ.
But it never said to create whatever traditions you want, especially the worship of any created being, including Mary.
We don't offer worship to the Theotokos. Extreme veneration, yes, but not worship.
What an unbelievably base and carnal interpretation.
Take a look at Patricius's signature line and tell me that's true.
So Mary is the Father's daughter, yet she gave birth to the Father's Son. In order for this to not be totally perverted, Mary would have to be God the Father's wife. Otherwise, you're saying God the Father had incest with His own daughter in order to give birth to the Son; Jesus Christ.
But it never said to create whatever traditions you want, especially the worship of any created being, including Mary.
What sounds off is calling Mary the spouse of the Holy Spirit.
Yes, the Holy Spirit overshadowed her in a way that has not occured with anyone else,
causing her to conceive God the Son in her womb,
but that does not make her 'married' to the Holy Spirit.
What sounds off is calling Mary the spouse of the Holy Spirit. Yes, the Holy Spirit overshadowed her in a way that has not occured with anyone else, causing her to conceive God the Son in her womb, but that does not make her 'married' to the Holy Spirit.
Mary is the Spouse of the Holy Spirit,
as the Catholic Church says.
The language used in Luke is actually marital, sexual language in the Hebrew language.
"The Holy Spirit will come upon you and the power of the Most High will overshadow you."
Mary conceived Christ (Luke 1:31) by the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit conceived Christ in Mary's pure womb.
What better way to love Jesus than to love his Blessed Mother? She is above all creatures in Heaven and on Earth. Father, Son and Holy Spirit are directly above her.
She mediates for us to her Son. She intercedes for us her children.
I am reading a great book at present called "True Devotion to Mary" By Louis - Marie De Montfort
In there is a fabulous explanation for those that dont understand Our deep love of Mary etc.
Nobody 'worships' Mary. I dont know of anyone that does!
She is the Queen of Heaven!
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