the self replicating watch argument

[MyGivenNameIsKeith]

This is something that you have to demonstrate in order to claim that it is true.

The Bible is available for your own perusal. I need not quote scripture for you to see it. It is not of my own opinion.

 

[MyGivenNameIsKeith]

Speaking of atheism...I'll share a quote...
A man who believes in nothing will fall for anything. - Malcolm X

 

[Skreeper]

The Bible is available for your own perusal. I need not quote scripture for you to see it. It is not of my own opinion.

I've read the Bible. It's incredibly dull and has some horrific stuff in it. There are more appealing books out there.

 

[AV1611VET]

I've read the Bible. It's incredibly dull and has some horrific stuff in it.

And yet you read It?

Hmmmm ...

That's like saying, "I drank a gallon of buttermilk. It was incredibly repugnant and had mushrooms in it, yet I drank the whole thing."

 

[Skreeper]

And yet you read It?

Hmmmm ...

That's like saying, "I drank a gallon of buttermilk. It was incredibly repugnant and had mushrooms in it, yet I drank the whole thing."

No it's like watching a bad movie. I already paid for the ticket, might as well finish it.

 

[AV1611VET]

No it's like watching a bad movie. I already paid for the ticket, might as well finish it.

Uh-huh.

And I'm Genghis Khan.

 

[Skreeper]

Uh-huh.

And I'm Genghis Khan.

This catchphrase died a long time ago. Let it rest.

 

[AV1611VET]

This catchphrase died a long time ago.

And so does that "I read the Bible clear through -- hated It" spiel.

When I first got saved, I read the Bible from cover to cover in 9 months; but that was because I couldn't get enough of It.

Had I hated It, I would never have subjected myself to reading It.

 

[Skreeper]

And so does that "I read the Bible clear through -- hated It" spiel.

When I first got saved, I read the Bible from cover to cover in 9 months; but that was because I couldn't get enough of It.

Had I hated It, I would never have subjected myself to reading It.

What's your favorite part? The one where it explicitly sanctions slavery? Maybe you like the part where it commands to kill homosexuals? Or maybe you prefer the story where God kills every innocent first-born in Egypt.

Couldn't get enough of it, eh?

 

[AV1611VET]

What's your favorite part?

At least I have a favorite part.

Do you?

If so, apparently [what you think are] the bad parts outweigh the good to the point where the whole Thing is 'incredibly dull and horrific.'

I don't get it.

And frankly, I don't accept it.

You show me someone who said he hates the Bible, and I'll show you someone who hasn't read It all the way through.

 

[Skreeper]

At least I have a favorite part.

Do you?

If so, apparently [what you think are] the bad parts outweigh the good to the point where the whole Thing is 'incredibly dull and horrific.'

I don't get it.

And frankly, I don't accept it.

You show me someone who said he hates the Bible, and I'll show you someone who hasn't read It all the way through.

So only people who love the Bible actually read it all? I don't buy it.

 

[AV1611VET]

So only people who love the Bible actually read it all? I don't buy it.

I loved the Bible before I even started reading It.

It just attracted me to It for some reason, and I think I know what that reason was.

It's interesting that the examples you gave me are all found in the first five books of the Bible ... yet you read 61 more books.

And how ON EARTH did you even get past the Gospels, where Jesus describes Hell in detail!?

 

[Skreeper]

And how ON EARTH did you even get past the Gospels, where Jesus describes Hell in detail!?

Come on now it's just a book. It wasn't that hard.

 

[xianghua]

It's an inevitable process when you have systems that reproduce with modification and are in competition with one another over limited resources....

not realy. if we had a self replicating matter it will never evolve into something like a walking robot. and about the e.coli- it already had the proteins to digest citrate. so its just a variation of the regulation.

 

[AV1611VET]

Come on now it's just a book.

And I'm just Genghis Khan.

 

[xianghua]

By your own admission here, any creature that has skin has a rudimentary eye.

if so my original question for how the first light detector evolvled remain the same.

 

[PsychoSarah]

And yet you read It?

Hmmmm ...

That's like saying, "I drank a gallon of buttermilk. It was incredibly repugnant and had mushrooms in it, yet I drank the whole thing."

Well gee, no use debating about a text one hasn't read before. The worst parts are the genealogies, in my opinion.

 

[AV1611VET]

Well gee, no use debating about a text one hasn't read before. The worst parts are the genealogies, in my opinion.

I have an excellent book about the "dry parts" of the Bible (Leviticus 14, 1 Chronicles 1-9, etc.), and the author makes the point that, like finding gems in the desert, these "dry parts" have in them some data point that makes other parts of the Bible clearer.

 

[Kylie]

Sure, but the detection is about feeling heat. Not "seeing" the light that holds the heat.

Irrelevant. It's about detecting when there is a particular wavelength of the electromagnetic spectrum hitting a part of the body. That's what skin does with infrared, and it's what eyes do with visible light.

 

[Kylie]

if so my original question for how the first light detector evolvled remain the same.

beneficial mutations.

Can we now move on and discuss actual evolution (which is how things change over time) rather than how it all got started (which isn't covered by evolution)?

BTW, I'm still waiting for you to tell me how the idea of a definition doesn't work. Or have you just given up on that?