The Seed

[Apple Sky]

I would prefer not to use the term "globalist" as it is a reference to the elites who wish to control everyone.

It's nice to see that you too have a suspicious mind & some sense.

 

[Apple Sky]

Around the world in 175 days!

 

[Apple Sky]

I'm happy for @Apple Sky ,@contratodo ,@d taylor or any other flat earthers to explain, but seeing as they have all run away and are in hiding from having to respond to flights between Sydney and Santiago,

 

[Apple Sky]

If you know the truth then why then do you so often resort to lying?

I have not resorted to any lying, God's word is true.

 

[David Lamb]

I have not resorted to any lying, God's word is true.

Yes, I as a believer in a spherical earth also say that God's word is true. However, it does not tell us the shape of the earth. You can only make it say that the earth is flat by changing verses, or by taking them out of their context. The first you seem to do with Isaiah 40:22 by changing it from saying:

“It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.” (Isa 40:22 NKJV)

to something like:

“It is He who sits above the earth, which is a circle, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.” (Isa 40:22 NKJV)

The second you seem to do with another verse you often quote, Job 38:14:

“It takes on form like clay under a seal, And stands out like a garment.” (Job 38:14 NKJV)

You seem to take that out of the context of the surrounding verses, and take it to be referring to the supposed flatness of the earth. But the context shows that it is about the coming of light at dawn, and how the features of the earth are shown by the light:

““Have you commanded the morning since your days began, And caused the dawn to know its place, That it might take hold of the ends of the earth, And the wicked be shaken out of it? It takes on form like clay under a seal, And stands out like a garment.” (Job 38:12-14 NKJV)

When studying the bible, it is vital to see what it actually says, and also not to take a verse out of its context.

 

[Apple Sky]

However, it does not tell us the shape of the earth. You can only make it say that the earth is flat by changing verses, or by taking them out of their context. The first you seem to do with Isaiah 40:22 by changing it from saying:

“It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.” (Isa 40:22 NKJV)

to something like:

“It is He who sits above the earth, which is a circle, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.” (Isa 40:22 NKJV)

When have I ever posted this, unless I was posting it from memory which I often do and made the mistake then.

Oh & BTW this verse is so true.

 

[David Lamb]

When have I ever posted this, unless I was posting it from memory which I often do and made the mistake then.

Oh & BTW this verse is so true.

I can certainly remember many times when you have quotes Isaiah 40:22 as apparently saying that the earth is a circle. Do you not remember me saying that if "the circle of the earth" means "the earth is a circle," then the psalmist's phrases, "the owl of the desert," and "the pelican of the wilderness" must mean that the desert is an owl, and the wilderness is a pelican.

I remember also that you often quote the Job verse without its context, and various other forum members have replied to you to say that the context shows it's not about the earth's shape, but about light coming with the dawn, and making the features of the earth visible.

You say that the verse is true. I agree, both of them are, the Isaiah verse and that from Job. But you seem to read the Isaiah verse as if it said, "The earth is a circle," and the Job verse out of the context which is the coming of the dawn, not the shape of the earth.

 

[Apple Sky]

I can certainly remember many times when you have quotes Isaiah 40:22 as apparently saying that the earth is a circle.

How could I get them wrong when the verses I post are always linked to to the Bible Hub ? I may have said that the earth is a circle, that's because it is.

 

[David Lamb]

How could I get them wrong when the verses I post are always linked to to the Bible Hub ? I may have said that the earth is a circle, that's because it is.

Sorry, but one of the verses you often quote for the earth being a circle is Isaiah 40:22, which does not say that the earrh is a circle, but that God sits above the circle of the earth, in other words, the earth has a circle or circuit (the Hebrew word can mean either.).

 

[Apple Sky]

The Flat Earth Bar in Chester.

Comment - We love The Flat Earth Bar! It’s a conspiracy theory themed bar in Chester that sells really cool beer options and has great, quirky decor and friendly staff. If you don’t fancy.

The only place where you can get unique pizzas.

Wouldn't mind a visit

 

[David Lamb]

No idea, all's I know is that sun circuits the sky as it states in the Bible.

So you have no idea why the sun rises and sets, and why halfway through a sunset we see half of the sun, not a sun getting smaller and smaller with distance, yet you still cling to the idea that the earth is flat, in spite of what you see.

 

[David Lamb]

The Flat Earth Bar in Chester.

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Comment - We love The Flat Earth Bar! It’s a conspiracy theory themed bar in Chester that sells really cool beer options and has great, quirky decor and friendly staff. If you don’t fancy.

The only place where you can get unique pizzas.

Wouldn't mind a visit

I don't think you'd like it, as it seems the Flat Earth Society sometimes hold meetings there.

 

[Apple Sky]

So you have no idea why the sun rises and sets, and why halfway through a sunset we see half of the sun, not a sun getting smaller and smaller with distance

No.

 

[Apple Sky]

I don't think you'd like it, as it seems the Flat Earth Society sometimes hold meetings there.

Thank you for the warning

 

[Apple Sky]

Then why do you disregard over 30 proofs the earth is a globe without addressing them with math and physics?

As Satan is a good mathematician too.

 

[David Lamb]

As Satan is a good mathematician too.

Not a very realistic mathematician. He claimed that if Jesus bowed down and worshipped him, he would give Jesus all the kingdoms of the world. But Satan does not have the authority to give anybody even one kingdom of the world, let alone all of them.

 

[Apple Sky]

@David Lamb

King James Bible
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

 

[Apple Sky]

Not a very realistic mathematician.

Yes your right, that's why he tuned in the globe.

 

[David Lamb]

@David Lamb

King James Bible
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

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There you are, quoting that verse again. Please tell me, where does that verse say that the earth is a circle? It does say that God sits upon or above the circle of the earth, so the earth must have a circle. Besides, as I have mentioned many times, the Hebrew word translated "circle" can equally be translated "circuit," as it is in the KJV in this verse:

Job 22:14 Thick clouds are a covering to him, that he seeth not; and he walketh in the circuit <02329> of heaven.

Isaiah 40:22 does not say that the earth is a circle.

 

[Apple Sky]

It does say that God sits upon or above the circle of the earth, so the earth must have a circle.

Not have a circle but is a circle.