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The Seed of Abraham

Discussion in 'Ecclesiology' started by Biblewriter, Sep 20, 2021.

  1. Clare73

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    Previously addressed.
     
  2. Ligurian

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    Saying someone has a forked tongue is not orthodox Christianity, is it?

    Without guile is "an Israelite indeed."
     
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  3. Ligurian

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    Well, I'm giving them again... for the silent reader to think about. The true oddity is Cephas, a Chaldean word...

    You must be the only one who knows what the code word "orthodox" means.
     
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  4. Clare73

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    We have dictionaries for that.
     
  5. Clare73

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    Which is why I do not present it as such.
    Now, if we can just get rid of the deceit in the doctrine of two gospels.

    The forked tongue (deceit) of two gospels is in contradiction to Christian orthodox NT teaching.
     
  6. Ligurian

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    BTW, anything in the Bible can be considered orthodox. The Ministry of Truth is secular.*

    Galatians 3:2-5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, [doeth he it] by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?KJV

    Galatians 2:7-9

    John 14:15-17 If ye love Me, keep My Commandments and I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another Comforter, that He may abide with you for ever: the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth Him not, neither knoweth Him: but ye know Him; for He dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

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    *"As soon as Winston had dealt with each of the messages, he clipped his speakwritten corrections to the appropriate copy of The Times and pushed them into the pneumatic tube. Then, with a movement which was as nearly as possible unconsicious, he crumpled up the original message and any notes that he himself had made, and dropped them into the memory hole to be devoured by the flames."--Orwell, 1984
     
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  7. Clare73

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    Only by interpretation of it is anything orthodox.
     
  8. Ligurian

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    In the gentile gospel... sure, maybe, if you say so, whatever.

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    In the Gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven,
    said to the Twelve Disciples at the last Passover:

    John 14:26 But the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
    (John 8:31-32)
     
  9. Biblewriter

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    Anyone who denies anything the Bible teaches is not orthdox.
     
  10. Ligurian

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    And some people are actually aware of the audience being spoken to.

    If I were to read someone else's mail, I would try very hard not to have any opinion at all about the contents or react to instructions given to the recipient. If I overhear a man being told by his wife to go buy milk and eggs for breakfast, I don't get in the car and go to the store thinking that if I heard it at all, then it must have been said to me. The woman... who is reasonable... probably wouldn't blame me for denying to fulfill the request she made to her husband.
     
  11. Biblewriter

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    Yes. And that is why we should not imagine that the promises made to the ancient nation of Israel, apply to ourselves.
     
  12. Ligurian

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    I completely agree.

    Which begs the question: where did the Bible actually come from and who are the Israelites? Do you believe everything written into history books, or do you have a mind of your own?

    Why does the code of Hammurabi read like the Mosaic Law? Why do the Nuzi Documents explain the social ordering of that Law? These two peoples aren't called Israelites. Nor are the Sumerians which had much of the primitive materials of the book of Genesis. From how far away did the writings of the Bible actually travel, in order to be found in the Library of Alexandria and translated into the Septuagint?
     
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