The Scientific Test for Macroevolution

[46AND2]

They are very similar because they are the same creature.

Smh.

lol. I missed that. funny.

 

[USincognito]

Convergent evolution exists in the creature world, as well. Similarities between the Tasmanian wolf and marsupial wolf violate nested hierarchy. Shared eye design across different taxa violates nested hierarchy.

Thylacines shared few characteristics with C lupus that aren't shared by all Therians. Their dental formula is enough to makes them more different from wolves than humans are from our fellow apes.
http://www.naturalworlds.org/thylacine/biology/anatomy/skullandskeleton/dentition/dentition_1.htm

 

[USincognito]

lol. I missed that. funny.

Yeah, missed that myself. Good catch Larnievc.

 

[AdamSK]

They are very similar because they are the same creature.

Smh.

I caught that myself this morning, but since everyone else was pretending I said "placental" as I meant, I let it go. Still, good catch.

 

[Loudmouth]

Because the stem species don't have eyes. Eyes evolved independently about 20 times according to the current model.

How is that a problem? Last I checked, the physical features of eyes are lineage specific, just as evolution would predict.

 

[Loudmouth]

They are very similar because they are the same creature.

Smh.

Hah. I misread it, but I assume the intent was to contrast the Tasmanian wolf and placental wolf.

 

[-57]

Echolocation is an activity, not a morphological trait. The specific physical adaptations for echolocation are different in bats and cetaceans which is consistent with a nested hierarchy.

There's a lot of morphological differences....strike one.

 

[-57]

Precisely. If creationism doesn't have to use a nested hierarchy, then we shouldn't see a nested hierarchy if creationism is true. The only reason we should see a nested hierarchy is if evolution is true since that is the only pattern of shared derived characteristics that evolution can produce.



Is there any reason God could not have done such a thing if species were created separately?

You're argument still doesn't make any sense. God could have created ducks with horns or antlers if He so choose. Just because he didn't doesn't mean they evolved.

 

[-57]

Is there any reason God could not have done such a thing if species were created separately?

Species wern't created separately ...kinds were.

 

[-57]

Dolphins echo-locate using sound produced in their melons whereas bat emit screeches from their throats.

I believe the sounds are produced in their blowpipes...prior to being focused in the melons.

i could be wrong.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Species wern't created separately ...kinds were.

What is a kind?

 

[Loudmouth]

There's a lot of morphological differences....strike one.

You are aware that evolution is a process that produces morphological differences, right?

 

[Loudmouth]

Species wern't created separately ...kinds were.

Replace species with kind, and answer the question.

 

[USincognito]

I believe the sounds are produced in their blowpipes...prior to being focused in the melons.

i could be wrong.

That would be blowhole, which is a modified nostril. And you would be right. I was wrong. My point, however stands as the sound waves are amplified by the melon and the bounced back sound is amplified by fatty deposits in the jaw. It's a different system than a screech directly form the larynx and heard directly by the ears.

 

[AdamSK]

Species wern't created separately ...kinds were.

How can we determine what the different "kinds" are?

 

[-57]

That would be blowhole, which is a modified nostril. And you would be right. I was wrong. My point, however stands as the sound waves are amplified by the melon and the bounced back sound is amplified by fatty deposits in the jaw. It's a different system than a screech directly form the larynx and heard directly by the ears.

I know. That's my point.

 

[-57]

How can we determine what the different "kinds" are?

If they can mate with each other they are of the same kind.

 

[-57]

Replace species with kind, and answer the question.

Nope. You can if you wan't to ask some sort of typical strawman question.

 

[-57]

You are aware that evolution is a process that produces morphological differences, right?

No. I'm not aware of that. Do you have any examples?

 

[Loudmouth]

No. I'm not aware of that. Do you have any examples?

We could try Darwin's book "Origin of Species" where he describes evolution as descent with modification.