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The Schumer Shutdown

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If only there was something the American people could have done to prevent this. Oh, wait, there was.
Idk. I haven’t seen the American people capable of doing much of anything lately.
 
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The Schumer Shutdown continues on and on and on.
Except what if it isn't the Schumer Shutdown - but the "MAGA hates poor people and wants to kick them off healthcare!" shutdown.

Joel Eissenberg | June 19, 2025 12:41 pm​

It’s bad enough that Republicans believe poor Americans should be allowed to die without health care. But if you ever need a hospital, whether or not you have insurance, this could kill you, too.

“That’s because each node of the system is interdependent. If the 190 rural hospitals estimated in a recent Center for American Progress report as collateral damage of the Republican cuts close, all of their patients must find treatment at the remaining health care providers. Many of these new-arrival patients are likely to be uninsured (many thrown off Medicaid or Obamacare by Republicans), crushing hospital finances and potentially adding more closures on top.

“This means overcrowded hospitals and overburdened staff, in addition to the serious hardships for patients traveling long distances for care. “The Republican Senate budget accelerates the rural hospital collapse that is under way, like jet fuel on a fire,” said Alex Lawson of Social Security Works, who works directly on health care issues in Washington. “Hospitals that don’t close will be the ones people drive four hours to access. The quality of everybody’s health care in this country will plummet.

“HOSPITALS HAVE LURCHED FROM ONE CRISIS to the next for years. Between the 2020 COVID pandemic and 2024, 36 rural hospitals closed, on the heels of 136 closures in the previous decade. Another 16 have closed this year, suggesting an acceleration of the trend, and hundreds more are at risk.
If the entire hospital doesn’t close, unprofitable business lines are often shuttered first. “I’ve talked to a lot of hospitals worried about having to close maternity wards,” said Chiquita Brooks-LaSure, who ran the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) in the Biden administration. In California alone, 56 hospitals have ended maternity care since 2012, and the crisis of maternity deserts is acute.”

Setting aside the question of whether American needs more babies*, maternity care is health care. Lack of maternity care and health care deserts used to be a third world problem. The Trump GOP wants to turn American into the next third world country.

*no, we don’t need more babies. With AI and robots promising to take lots of jobs in the next 30 years, what jobs will those babies have when they grow up? With global warming drowning and burning arable land, how will those babies eat and drink when they grow up?

The GOP is turning America into a 3rd world country
 
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Except what if it isn't the Schumer Shutdown - but the "MAGA hates poor people and wants to kick them off healthcare!" shutdown.

Joel Eissenberg | June 19, 2025 12:41 pm​

It’s bad enough that Republicans believe poor Americans should be allowed to die without health care. But if you ever need a hospital, whether or not you have insurance, this could kill you, too.​
“That’s because each node of the system is interdependent. If the 190 rural hospitals estimated in a recent Center for American Progress report as collateral damage of the Republican cuts close, all of their patients must find treatment at the remaining health care providers. Many of these new-arrival patients are likely to be uninsured (many thrown off Medicaid or Obamacare by Republicans), crushing hospital finances and potentially adding more closures on top.​
“This means overcrowded hospitals and overburdened staff, in addition to the serious hardships for patients traveling long distances for care. “The Republican Senate budget accelerates the rural hospital collapse that is under way, like jet fuel on a fire,” said Alex Lawson of Social Security Works, who works directly on health care issues in Washington. “Hospitals that don’t close will be the ones people drive four hours to access. The quality of everybody’s health care in this country will plummet.​
“HOSPITALS HAVE LURCHED FROM ONE CRISIS to the next for years. Between the 2020 COVID pandemic and 2024, 36 rural hospitals closed, on the heels of 136 closures in the previous decade. Another 16 have closed this year, suggesting an acceleration of the trend, and hundreds more are at risk.​
If the entire hospital doesn’t close, unprofitable business lines are often shuttered first. “I’ve talked to a lot of hospitals worried about having to close maternity wards,” said Chiquita Brooks-LaSure, who ran the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) in the Biden administration. In California alone, 56 hospitals have ended maternity care since 2012, and the crisis of maternity deserts is acute.”​
Setting aside the question of whether American needs more babies*, maternity care is health care. Lack of maternity care and health care deserts used to be a third world problem. The Trump GOP wants to turn American into the next third world country.​
*no, we don’t need more babies. With AI and robots promising to take lots of jobs in the next 30 years, what jobs will those babies have when they grow up? With global warming drowning and burning arable land, how will those babies eat and drink when they grow up?​
This is the Schumer Shutdown, no matter how much a citizen of Australia wants to believe otherwise. The GOP has voted ten times in the Senate over the last couple of weeks to keep the federal government running. It is Chuck Schumer and the Democratic Party Senators who are voting to continue the shutdown. Therefore, despite how much a citizen of Australia appears to want to believe that the GOP is at fault, the plain facts show that this is indeed the Schumer Shutdown.
 
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This is the Schumer Shutdown, no matter how much a citizen of Australia wants to believe otherwise. The GOP has voted ten times in the Senate over the last couple of weeks to keep the federal government running. It is Chuck Schumer and the Democratic Party Senators who are voting to continue the shutdown. Therefore, despite how much a citizen of Australia appears to want to believe that the GOP is at fault, the plain facts show that this is indeed the Schumer Shutdown.
But a third of Americans voted for Kamala. Do the GOP not think ANY of those people deserve SOME compromise? It was only a slither of a third more voted for Trump - and a third were so upset by both choices - they didn't even vote!

Does the budget they are trying to pass even make sense for America?
It really sounds like government of the billionaires, by the billionaires, for the billionaires. (BBB!)
You see - I thought America was already favouring the rich over the poor - and already vastly disproportionate - and already punishing the poor who have to work 2 jobs each and hardly see the kids just to make rent. I thought Americas healthcare was already one of the most expensive and punitive regimes in the OECD. But I was WRONG! It turns out MAGA can punish the poor even more, while rewarding the rich so much more! (The top 0.1 percent get $390,000 more each year, but those under $17,000 a year get robbed another $1000 they just cannot afford to lose!)

There's going to be Civil Disorder if this goes through!

When you can get past the regime's outright LIES - this bill is REVOLTING!

Angry Bear | May 23, 2025 7:00 am​
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Robert Reich: The old professor in me thinks the best way to convey to you how utterly awful the so-called “one big-beautiful bill” passed by the House last night actually is, would be to give you this short 10-question exam. (Answers are in parentheses but first try to answer without looking at them.)​
1. Does the House’s “one big beautiful bill” cut Medicare? (Answer: Yes, by an estimated $500 billion.)
2. Because the bill cuts Medicaid, how many Americans are expected to lose Medicaid coverage? (At least 8.6 million.)​
3. Will the tax cut in the bill benefit the rich, the poor, or everyone? (Overwhelmingly, the rich.)
4. How much will the top 0.1 percent of earners stand to gain from it? (Nearly $390,000 per year.)
5. If you figure in the benefit cuts and the tax cuts, will Americans making between about $17,000 and $51,000 gain or lose? (They’ll lose about $700 a year.)​
6. How about Americans with incomes less than $17,000? (They’ll lose more than $1,000 per year on average.)
7. How much will the bill add to the federal debt? ($3.8 trillion over 10 years.)
8. Who will pay the interest on this extra debt? (All of us, in both our tax payments and higher interest rates for mortgages, car loans, and all other longer-term borrowing.)​
9. Who collects this interest? (People who lend to the U.S. government, 70 percent of whom are American and most of whom are wealthy.)​
10. Bonus question: Is the $400 million airplane from Qatar a gift to the United States for every future president to use, or a gift to Trump for his own personal use? (It’s a personal gift, because he’ll get to use it after he leaves the presidency.)​
Most Americans are strongly opposed to all of these things, according to polls. But if you knew the answers to these 10 questions, you’re likely to be in a very tiny minority. That’s because of:
(1) distortions and cover-ups emanating from Trump and magnified by Fox News and other rightwing outlets;
(2) a public that’s overwhelmed with the blitzkrieg of everything Trump is doing and can’t focus on this; and
(3) outright silencing of many in the media who fear retaliation from the Trump regime if they reveal things that Trump doesn’t want revealed.
Please do your part: Share this as widely as possible.​
Robert Reich, “What you need to share about the “one big beautiful” ugly horrible bill.”​
 
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John Thune offers Schumer vote deal to end government shutdown


Senate Majority Leader John Thune said he has offered the Democratic leadership a vote on extending the Obamacare tax credits that are about to expire—if they get behind reopening the federal government from its more than two-week shutdown.​
“We can guarantee you get a vote by a date certain,” Thune, a South Dakota Republican, told MSNBC in an interview published Thursday morning. “At some point, Democrats have to take ‘yes’ for an answer.”​
 
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There you go. Your response shows just how empty is the GOP’s concern is for the impact of the government shutdown.
Why should there be a concern if the impact is quite minimal?
 
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John Thune offers Schumer vote deal to end government shutdown
“I can’t guarantee it’s going to pass,” Thune told MSNBC. “I can guarantee you that there will be a process and you will get a vote.”

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Why should there be a concern if the impact is quite minimal?
Exactly! That’s why I hope Schumer keeps this shutdown going as long as he can. Seems you feel the same way.
 
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If only there was something the American people could have done to prevent this. Oh, wait, there was.
Actually, it would only take 5 American people on the democratic side of the isle in the Senate to prevent this. However, they keep voting to extend it.
 
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Exactly! That’s why I hope Schumer keeps this shutdown going as long as he can. Seems you feel the same way.
There you go. Your response shows just how empty is the Dems' concern is for the impact of the government shutdown.
 
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There you go. Your response shows just how empty is the Dems' concern is for the impact of the government shutdown.
Well duh. I thought it was the GOP that wanted this thing to end.

I guess I was wrong.
 
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There you go. Your response shows just how empty is the GOP’s concern is for the impact of the government shutdown.
If the Democratic Party was really concerned about the impact of the government shutdown, then there would not have even been a shutdown.
 
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But a third of Americans voted for Kamala. Do the GOP not think ANY of those people deserve SOME compromise? It was only a slither of a third more voted for Trump - and a third were so upset by both choices - they didn't even vote!

Does the budget they are trying to pass even make sense for America?
It really sounds like government of the billionaires, by the billionaires, for the billionaires. (BBB!)
You see - I thought America was already favouring the rich over the poor - and already vastly disproportionate - and already punishing the poor who have to work 2 jobs each and hardly see the kids just to make rent. I thought Americas healthcare was already one of the most expensive and punitive regimes in the OECD. But I was WRONG! It turns out MAGA can punish the poor even more, while rewarding the rich so much more! (The top 0.1 percent get $390,000 more each year, but those under $17,000 a year get robbed another $1000 they just cannot afford to lose!)

There's going to be Civil Disorder if this goes through!

When you can get past the regime's outright LIES - this bill is REVOLTING!

Angry Bear | May 23, 2025 7:00 am​
...​
Robert Reich: The old professor in me thinks the best way to convey to you how utterly awful the so-called “one big-beautiful bill” passed by the House last night actually is, would be to give you this short 10-question exam. (Answers are in parentheses but first try to answer without looking at them.)​
1. Does the House’s “one big beautiful bill” cut Medicare? (Answer: Yes, by an estimated $500 billion.)
2. Because the bill cuts Medicaid, how many Americans are expected to lose Medicaid coverage? (At least 8.6 million.)​
3. Will the tax cut in the bill benefit the rich, the poor, or everyone? (Overwhelmingly, the rich.)
4. How much will the top 0.1 percent of earners stand to gain from it? (Nearly $390,000 per year.)
5. If you figure in the benefit cuts and the tax cuts, will Americans making between about $17,000 and $51,000 gain or lose? (They’ll lose about $700 a year.)​
6. How about Americans with incomes less than $17,000? (They’ll lose more than $1,000 per year on average.)
7. How much will the bill add to the federal debt? ($3.8 trillion over 10 years.)
8. Who will pay the interest on this extra debt? (All of us, in both our tax payments and higher interest rates for mortgages, car loans, and all other longer-term borrowing.)​
9. Who collects this interest? (People who lend to the U.S. government, 70 percent of whom are American and most of whom are wealthy.)​
10. Bonus question: Is the $400 million airplane from Qatar a gift to the United States for every future president to use, or a gift to Trump for his own personal use? (It’s a personal gift, because he’ll get to use it after he leaves the presidency.)​
Most Americans are strongly opposed to all of these things, according to polls. But if you knew the answers to these 10 questions, you’re likely to be in a very tiny minority. That’s because of:
(1) distortions and cover-ups emanating from Trump and magnified by Fox News and other rightwing outlets;
(2) a public that’s overwhelmed with the blitzkrieg of everything Trump is doing and can’t focus on this; and
(3) outright silencing of many in the media who fear retaliation from the Trump regime if they reveal things that Trump doesn’t want revealed.
Please do your part: Share this as widely as possible.​
Robert Reich, “What you need to share about the “one big beautiful” ugly horrible bill.”​
Your post is filled with left wing liberal talking points and misinformation and false information.
 
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