THE SABBATH TRUTH!

[pasifika]

Hello pasifika nice to see you again. Not sure what happened to the beginning of the post you are quoting from me as I never said "hellpasifika" to you. Back to your question.

MARK 2:27 [27], And he said to them, THE SABBATH WAS MADE FOR MAN and not man for the Sabbath.

Hebrew and Greek Dictionaries w/TVM, Strong - G444
MAN is G444 ἄνθρωπος; anthrōpos From G435 and ὤψ ōps (the countenance ; from G3700); manfaced, that is, a human being: - certain, man.

Adam and Eve (MAN) who God created the Sabbath for were made on the Sixth day of Creation *GENESIS 1:26-31.

Hebrew and Greek Dictionaries w/TVM, Strong - H120
אדם; 'âdâm; aw-dawm'From H119; ruddy, that is, a human being an individual or the species, mankind, etc.: - X another, + hypocrite, + common sort, X low, man (mean, of low degree), person.

Webster's Unabridged Dictionary, 1828 - Man
MAN, n. plu. men. [Heb.species, kind, image, similitude.]
Mankind; the human race; the whole species of human beings; beings distinguished from all other animals by the powers of reason and speech, as well as by their shape and dignified aspect. ""Os homini sublime dedit."
And God said, Let us make man in our image, , after our likeness, and let them have dominion--Gen 1.
Man that is born of a woman, is of few days and full of trouble. Job 14.
My spirit shall not always strive with man. Gen 6.
I will destroy man whom I have created. Gen 6.
There hath no temptation taken you, but such as is common to man. 1 Cor 10.
It is written,man shall not live by bread alone. Mat 4.
There must be somewhere such a rank as man.
Respecting man, whatever wrong we call--
But vindicate the ways of God to man.
The proper study of mankind is man.
In the System of Nature, man is ranked as a distinct genus.
When opposed to woman, man sometimes denotes the male sex in general.
Woman has, in general, much stronger propensity than man to the discharge of parental duties.

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The Sabbath was made and given to man (Adam and Eve) on the "seventh day" of creation according to the scriptures in GENESIS 2:1-3 not EXODUS 20. Further proof the God's people already knew about the Sabbath is in GENESIS 26:5 and EXODUS 16.

Hope this is helpful

The 7th day Sabbath in Genesis was God's Sabbath Not Adam and Eve, it was God who works Not Adam or Eve...

 

[pasifika]

Sorry dear friend. Not sure what your trying to say here maybe it is me if so forgive me. Can you explain yourself a little further?

Response to post 154

 

[LoveGodsWord]

The 7th day Sabbath in Genesis was God's Sabbath Not Adam and Eve, it was God who works Not Adam or Eve...

Hi pasifica, not really dear friend. God does not need a rest. JESUS says that he made the Sabbath for all mankind in *MARK 2:27 and he set apart the "seventh day" of the week as a "holy day of rest" for all mankind and "blessed it" as a memorial of creation. When JESUS says he made the Sabbath for man only Adam and Eve were present in the garden of eden, being made on the sixth day of the creation week *GENESIS 1:26-31.

 

[pasifika]

Hi pasifica, not really dear friend. God does not need a rest. JESUS says that he made the Sabbath for all mankind in *MARK 2:27 and he set apart the "seventh day" of the week as a "holy day of rest" for all mankind and "blessed it" as a memorial of creation. When JESUS says he made the Sabbath for man only Adam and Eve were present in the garden of eden, being made on the sixth day of the creation week *GENESIS 1:26-31.

Yes God does not need rest, but as you quoted Genesis 2:1,2 from your OP states that God rested from all his work...
Also, when Jesus says he made the Sabbath for man It was Jesus and His disciples and the Pharisees were present Not Adam and Eve...

 

[mtatertayte]

Hi all friendly discussion please.

Some try to claim that the Sabbath given at creation is a claim that is not true but is that the truth according to the scriptures? I would like to examine this in detail to show why the Sabbath was indeed given to mankind at creation and this was the reason God made the Sabbath.

So the question we are considering here is...

1. WAS THE SABBATH GIVEN TO MANKIND AT CREATION?
2. WHY DID GOD MAKE THE SABBATH?

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Let's start with the scriptures showing when God made the seventh day Sabbath and see why it was made and who it was made for and connect all the scriptures starting in GENESIS...

WHERE IS THE SABBATH IN GENESIS 2:1-3?

GOD's 4th Commandment is refering to GENESIS 2:1-3 in EXODUS 20:8-11.

GENESIS 2:1-3 [1], Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. [2], And ON THE SEVENTH DAY God ended his work which he had made; and he RESTED [שׁבת; shâbath H7673; Keep Sabbath] on the SEVENTH DAY from all his work which he had made. [3], And GOD BLESSED THE SEVENTH DAY AND MADE IT HOLY: because that in it he had RESTED [שׁבת; shâbath H7673; Keep Sabbath] from all his work which God created and made.

Links to God’s 4th Commandment

EXODUS 20:8-11 [8], REMEMBER THE SABBATH DAY, TO KEEP IT HOLY [Made Holy at creation GENESIS 2:3]. [9], Six days shall you labor, and do all your work: [10], But THE SEVENTH DAY [ Genesis 2:1-3] IS THE SABBATH OF THE LORD YOUR GOD : in it you shall not do any work, you, nor your son, nor your daughter, your manservant, nor your maidservant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger that is within your gates: [WHY?] [11], FOR IN SIX DAYS THE LORD MADE HEAVEN AND EARTH, THE SEA, AND ALL THAT IS IN THEM IS, AND RESTED THE SEVENTH DAY; WHEREFORE THE LORD BLESSED THE SABBATH DAY AND MADE IT HOLY. [Refering to GENESIS 2:1-3]

Look at the HEBREW WORD meanings...

The Hebrew word for RESTED used here is שׁבת; shâbath (H7673) which is the root word of Sabbath (noun). The Hebrew word for RESTED is the verb of doing or "KEEPING THE SABBATH" It's meaning is; to repose, that is, desist from exertion; used in many implied relations (causatively, figuratively or specifically): - (cause to, let, make to) cease, celebrate, cause (make) to fail, KEEP SABBATH, suffer to be lacking, leave, put away (down), (make to) rest, rid, still, take away.

The HEBREW Word for shabbâth is the noun or discription of what is being kept. It's meaning is the intermission between SABBATHS or RESTS (H7673) or the continuation meaing from one SABBATH REST to the Next SABBATH REST or EVERY SABBATH REST. It's application is in God's 4th commandment EXODUS 20:8 is to REMEMBER [EVERY] Sabbath [shabbâth H7676] and points back to creation with "REMEMBER".

In the 4th commandment *EXODUS 20:8-11; v11 tells us the ORIGINS of God's 4th commandments Sabbath is in reference to GENESIS 2:1-3 and the reason why it is given as a memorial of Greation to whorship God as the creator of Heaven and Earth.

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Note here in GENESIS 2:1-3 that it was in the creation week when God had finished his creation in six days that He rested on the SEVENTH DAY of the week from all His Work that he had made and He "SET APART" the seventh day of the week and "BLESSED" the seventh day" and made the seventh day a "HOLY DAY" of rest. The seventh day SABBATH therefore according to the scriptures is "GOD'S REST"

The reason why the SABBATH was made was not because God needed rest but for mankind to remember and celebrate God as the God of creation. JESUS in His own Words as the God of creation says this in His own words here...

MARK 2:27 [27], And he said to them, THE SABBATH WAS MADE FOR MAN and not man for the Sabbath.

The Greek word used here for MAN is G444 ἄνθρωπος; anthrōpos From G435 and ὤψ ōps (the countenance ; from G3700); manfaced, that is, a human being: - certain, man.

JESUS tells has that the Sabbath was made for mankind on the "SEVENTH DAY" of the creation week. JESUS is the LORD of the SABBATH *MARK 2:28 and commands His people to "REMEMBER" the Sabbath which is the "SEVENTH DAY" of the week and to keep the "SEVENTH DAY" of the week as a "HOLY DAY OF REST" as a memorial of creation and a celebration of JESUS as the God of creation in EXODUS 20:8-11. Lets look at the links in God's 4th commandment of the 10 commandments to GENESIS 2:1-3 of when the seventh day Sabbath was created and link this back to the new testament scriptures...

God's 4th commandments points back to GENESIS 2:1-3 and creation...

EXODUS 20:8-11 [8], REMEMBER the SABBATH DAY, to KEEP IT HOLY. <Why?> [Because JESUS made it a Holy day of rest for mankind and commands us to keep it as a Holy day] [9], Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work: [10], But the SEVENTH DAY IS THE SABBATH of the LORD thy God [This is a direct reference from God's Word defining what the Sabbath is; The SABBATH = the SEVENTH DAY OF THE WEEK]: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: <WHY> [11], For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the SEVENTH DAY: wherefore the LORD BLESSED THE SABBATH, and HALLOWED IT.

The reason for the Sabbath Commandment is to REMEMBER the God of creation. He rested on the SEVENTH DAY of the WEEK, BLESSED the SEVENTH DAY OF THE WEEK and made it a HOLY DAY that no work is to be done. v11 Refers back to Genesis 2:1-3 and the origin of the Sabbath. v8 shows that this commandment is a MEMORIAL of creation v11 [the reason for the 4th commandment].

Summary of the above is simply that GENESIS 2:1-3 is the origin of when God made the Sabbath for all mankind according to the words of JESUS. RESTING on the Sabbath from our work is SABBATH KEEPING or how the Sabbath is kept. As we from the heart obey Gods' 4th commandment we enter into Gods' REST of the "seventh day Sabbath"

GENESIS 2:1-3 is INDEED the ORIGIN of the SABBATH (First Sabbath). It is the SEVENTH DAY of creation that God blessed, set apart and made a HOLY DAY for all mankind. Nearly every section of GENESIS 2:1-3 is repeated in EXODUS 20:8-11 of God's 4th commandment as the reason why we are to REMEMBER God's Sabbath.

This links directly into the new testament scriptures of believing the gospel of our Lord JESUS Christ here...

HEBREWS 4:1-11
[1], Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into HIS REST, any of you should seem to come short of it.
[2], For to us was the gospel preached, as well as to them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
[3], For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into MY REST: ALTHOUGH THE WORKS WERE FINISHED FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD.
[4], FOR HE SPOKE IN A CERTAIN PLACE (GENSIS 2:1-3) OF THE SEVENTH DAY ON THIS WISE, AND GOD DID REST THE SEVENTH DAY FROM ALL HIS WORKS.
[5], And in this place again, If they shall enter into MY REST.

NOTE: CONTEXT is God's REST from the SEVENTH DAY SABBATH REST OF CREATION (v4-5) and those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW GOD's WORD enter into God's SABBATH REST as GOD did on the SEVENTH DAY of the week. CONTEXT is GOD's SEVENTH DAY SABBATH REST and those who BELIEVE AND FOLLOW GOD'S WORD enter into that rest which God's WORD defines as the SEVENTH DAY SABBATH which is GOD'S REST!

The scriptures show that God's SEVENTH DAY SABBATH according to the very words of JESUS was made for mankind at the seventh day of the creation week. While mankind was made on the sixth day of the creation week. ADAM and EVE where the first to keep God's SABBATH.

God bless.

Are you mad that others do not keep the Sabbath as you?

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Yes God does not need rest, but as you quoted Genesis 2:1,2 from your OP states that God rested from all his work...
Also, when Jesus says he made the Sabbath for man It was Jesus and His disciples and the Pharisees were present Not Adam and Eve...

Actually no dear brother. With that line of thought none of the four gospels and more of the new testament scriptures apply to you. JESUS did not say that the scriptures only refer to his disciples and the Pharisees. He said man = mankind as shown through the scriptures earlier.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Are you mad that others do not keep the Sabbath as you?

Hello mtatertayte nice to meet you here and welcome. Answering your question? No dear friend why should I? We all answer only to God come judgement day. It is only my duty of Love to my God and fellow man that I share His Word. For me, he must increase and I must decrease. I only point all to the Word of God because it is there we find the one who loves us that we may love him. I know him and am known by him. All that he shows me I see and must show to all because I am blind. He tells me it is those that say they see that do not see. These are they that have once known him or do not know him. There is only life in the living Word. These are his Words and not my own. Freely I give because freely I have received. I must speak in the light and what I hear preach in the housetops. Many will not hear because they do not know Him. He is the Word of God and those that believe him are those that he has chosen. They follow him because they love him and are loved by him. Many are called but few are chosen. There is nothing hidden that shall not be revealed come judgment day.

May you receive God's Word and be blessed.

 

[mtatertayte]

Hello mtatertayte nice to meet you here and welcome. Answering your question? No dear friend why should I? We all answer only to God come judgement day. It is only my duty of Love to my God and fellow man that I share His Word. For me, he must increase and I must decrease. I only point all to the Word of God because it is there we find the one who loves us that we may love him. I know him and am known by him. All that he shows me I see and must show to all because I am blind. He tells me it is those that say they see that do not see. These are they that have once known him or do not know him. There is only life in the living Word. These are his Words and not my own. Freely I give because freely I have received. I must speak in the light and what I hear preach in the housetops. Many will not hear because they do not know Him. He is the Word of God and those that believe him are those that he has chosen. They follow him because they love him and are loved by him. Many are called but few are chosen. There is nothing hidden that shall not be revealed come judgment day.

May you receive God's Word and be blessed.

I do not seek the word of God for the word of God comes from the Spirit of God. May I receive more of God's Spirit and be more blessed in His word.

David was a man after God's heart. I am a man after God's Spirit.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

I do not seek the word of God for the word of God comes from the Spirit of God. May I receive more of God's Spirit and be more blessed in His word.
David was a man after God's heart. I am a man after God's Spirit.

God's Spirit works through God's WORD because he is the Spirit of the Word * JOHN 10:17; JOHN 6:63; JOHN 17:17; JOHN 14:6 not outside or apart from Gods' Word. No one has God's Spirit without believing God's Word or while living in a life of known unrepentant sin *HEBREWS 10:26-27; JAMES 4:17 which is defined in the scriptures as not believing God's Word *ROMANS 14:23 and breaking anyone of God's commandments *JAMES 2:10-11 as God only gives His Spirit to those who obey His Word *ACTS 5:32. According to the scriptures those who say they know God and do not keep His commandments are not telling the truth *1 JOHN 2:3-4 as it is also written he whom God has sent speaks the words of God: for God gives not the Spirit by measure to him *JOHN 3:34. It is the spirit that quickens; the flesh profits nothing: the words that I speak to you, they are spirit and they are life *JOHN 6:63. Those who practice sin is the difference between the children of God and the children of the devil *1 JOHN 3:6-10; 1 JOHN 2:3-4; 1 JOHN 5:3; REVELATION 14:12; REVELATION 22:14

May you receive God's Word and be blessed.

 

[mtatertayte]

God's Spirit works through God's WORD because he is the Spirit of the Word * JOHN 10:17; JOHN 6:63; JOHN 17:17; JOHN 14:6 not outside or apart from Gods' Word. No one has God's Spirit without believing God's Word or while living in a life of known unrepentant sin which is defined in the scriptures as not believing God's Word and breaking anyone of God's commandments *ROMANS 14:23; JAMES 2:10-11 as God only gives His Spirit to those who obey His Word *ACTS 5:32. According to the scriptures those who say they now God and do not keep His commandments are not telling the truth *1 JOHN 3:4 as it is also written he whom God has sent speaks the words of God: for God gives not the Spirit by measure to him *JOHN 3:34. It is the spirit that quickens; the flesh profits nothing: the words that I speak to you, they are spirit and they are life *JOHN 6:63

May you receive God's Word and be blessed.

So when you disagree with someone do you always think you are automatically right because it is what you believe as the truth?

 

[LoveGodsWord]

So when you disagree with someone do you always think you are automatically right because it is what you believe as the truth?

For me I like to hear what people say and think but I believe and follow God's Word. For me, he must increase (the Word) and I must decrease. I only point all to the Word of God because it is there we find the one who loves us that we may love him. I know him and am known by him. All that he shows me I see and must show to all because I am blind. He tells me it is those that say they see that do not see. These are they that have once known him or do not know him. Who am I that he should choose me out of the world? I am no one but he is all. God's Spirit bears witness to my words because they are are not my words but His Word. They are not my words but God's and His Spirit bears witness to His Words that they are true. Yet many do not believe them and many will be called but few will be chosen. Babylon the great the mother of harlots has falled. Who will hear the call to go out and meet the bridegroom?

God's Sheep hear His Voice and follow him. Those who do not hear will not follow.

 

[mtatertayte]

but I believe and follow God's Word.

I believe and follow God's Spirit.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

I believe and follow God's Spirit.

JESUS says we must examine ourselves wheather we are in the faith or not. We are told that by our fruits we will know if someone is from God or not and we will know if someone has God's Spirit or does not haved God's Spirit as it is written, the words that I speak unto you they are spirit and they are life and he that says I know him and does not keep his commandments is a liar and the truth (God's Spirit) is not in him. God's Word is truth and so is God's Spirit.

 

[mtatertayte]

JESUS says we must all examine ourselves wheather we are in the faith or not. We are told that by our fruits we will know if someone is from God or not and we will know if someone has God's Spirit or does not haved God's Spirit as it is written, the words that I speak unto you they are spirit and they are life and he that says I know him and does not keep his commandments is a liar and the truth (God's Spirit) is not in him. God's Word is truth and so is God's Spirit.

Jesus also believed and followed God's Spirit.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Jesus also believed and followed God's Spirit.

JESUS was the Word of God from which His Spirit testified and works through. There is not Spirit without God's Word because the Spirit is the spirit of the Word of God. The words that I speak unto you they are Spirit and they are life. If we reject Gods' Word we do not have God's Spirit because God's Spirit is the Spirit of the Word of truth.

 

[mtatertayte]

JESUS was the Word of God from which His Spirit testified and works through. There is not Spirit without God's Word because the Spirit is the spirit of the Word of God.

The Word of God believes and follows the Spirit of God.
The Spirit is the life of the Word.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

The Word of God believes and follows the Spirit of God.
The Spirit is the life of the Word.

You have it back the front dear friend as it is written the words that I speak unto you they are Spirit and they are live. There is no Spirit and no life without God's Word. If we believe God's Word we receive God's Spirit. There is no Spirit without faith in Gods' Word as we are only saced by grace through faith and faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God.

 

[mtatertayte]

You have it back the front dear friend as it is written the words that I speak unto you they are Spirit and they are live. There is no Spirit and no life without God's Word.

If the word or Word is Spirit then The Spirit existed before the word or Word. For Jesus did not say my Spirit are words but my words are Spirit.
Therefore Jesus proved the Spirit came first and the Word or word
FOLLOWS THE SPIRIT.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

If the word or Word is Spirit then The Spirit existed before the word or Word. For Jesus did not say my Spirit are words but my words are Spirit.
Therefore Jesus proved the Spirit came first and the Word or word
FOLLOWS THE SPIRIT.

JESUS is the Word of God and it is by the Word of God that all things have life. The Words that I speak unto you they are Spirit and they are life.

 

[mtatertayte]

You have it back the front dear friend as it is written the words that I speak unto you they are Spirit and they are live. There is no Spirit and no life without God's Word. If we believe God's Word we receive God's Spirit. There is no Spirit without faith in Gods' Word as we are only saced by grace through faith and faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God.

Why do you refer to me as your dear friend?