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Not according to the Sabbath commandment where we find it to be a "memorial" not a prediction. It was given in Eden as a memorial of creation week according to the actual commandment Gen 2:1-3, Ex 20:8-11.The Sabbath rest was made holy because it prefigured our Sabbath rest in Christ.
It's interesting you claim the Catholic Church made the change. That fails to explain how the Indian Orthodox Church -which was never part of the Catholic Church and was never influenced by it- gathers to worship on Sunday. Just like the Apostles.Yes, God deemed all days working days except for the seventh day Sabbath Exo 20:8-11 and He is the authority, not man.
It was predicted the Sabbath would be changed Daniel 7:25 the only law that is both a time (every seventh day ) and law (Sabbath commandment) but it was not by changed God and we see this clearly happening through history, not by God or in scripture, again why no one ever quotes scripture to support it.
Q. Have you any other proofs that they(Protestants) are not guided by the Scripture?
A. Yes; so many, that we cannot admit more than a mere specimen into this small work. They reject much that is clearly contained in Scripture, and profess more that is nowhere discoverable in that Divine Book.
Q. Give some examples of both?
A. They should, if the Scripture were their only rule, wash the feet of one another, according to the command of Christ, in the 13th chap. of St. John; —they should keep, not the Sunday, but the Saturday, according to the commandment, "Remember thou keep holy the SABBATH-day;" for this commandment has not, in Scripture, been changed or abrogated;...
—Rev. Stephen Keenan, A Doctrinal Catechism; New York in 1857, page 101 Imprimatuer
Question: Which is the Sabbath day?
Answer: Saturday is the Sabbath day.
Question: Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
Answer: We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church transferred the solemnity from Saturday to Sunday.
—Rev. Peter Geiermann C.SS.R., The Convert’s Catechism of Catholic Doctrine, p. 50
The choice is ours do we follow man or follow God? Jesus tells us the choice we should make Mark 7:7-8 Mat 15:3-9 we should trust Jesus!
Well they think otherwise. It was changed SO long ago in 300 AD we were warned after the apostles death what would happen to the church Acts 20:29 but God has always had a faithful remnant who keep His commandments Rev 12:17, His version, not mans.It's interesting you claim the Catholic Church made the change. That fails to explain how the Indian Orthodox Church -which was never part of the Catholic Church and was never influenced by it-
Again, another statement that is not backed by scripture, not convincing.gathers to worship on Sunday. Just like the Apostles.
Yes, they broke bread daily Acts 2:46 and it says nothing about Sunday being a new day of worship, a new holy day, nothing about weekly church on day 1. One would have to add that to God's Word- something we are told not to do Prov 30:5-6Act 20:7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.
Act 2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
Nor does any text say "the animal sacrifices prefigured the atonement of Jesus."Not according to the Sabbath commandment where we find it to be a "memorial" not a prediction. It was given in Eden as a memorial of creation week according to the actual commandment Gen 2:1-3, Ex 20:8-11.
No text says "made holy because it prefigured rest in Jesus".
However, both Jesus and Paul state that that the Decalogue is summed up in one rule: love of God and neighbor as self (Mt 22:37-40, Ro 13:10), that he who loves has fulfilled the law (Ro 13:8), and that includes the Sabbath.No text says "delete this commandment when you accept Christ as Savior"
And love doesn't go undefined and the summary does not delete those details. So if we are profaning God's holy Sabbath day, that is not love to God. Just like not love to God to worship other gods, or vain His holy name etc. etc. 1 John 5:3Nor does any text say "the animal sacrifices prefigured the atonement of Jesus."
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
However, both Jesus and Paul state that that the Decalogue is summed up in one rule: love of God and neighbor as self (Mt 22:37-40, Ro 13:-10), that he who loves has fulfilled the law (Ro 13:8), and that includes the Sabbath.
We're in the NT now, and under Christ's law now (Mt 22:37-40, Ro 13:8).And love doesn't go undefined and the summary does not delete those details. So if we are profaning God's holy Sabbath day, that is not love to God. Just like not love to God to worship other gods, or vain His holy name etc. etc. 1 John 5:3
Eze 22:26 Her priests have violated My law and profaned My holy things; they have not distinguished between the holy and unholy, nor have they made known the difference between the unclean and the clean; and they have hidden their eyes from My Sabbaths, so that I am profaned among them.
The Sabbath in the NT is still according to the commandment Luke 23:56We're in the NT now, and under Christ's law now (Mt 22:37-40, Ro 13:8).
Yes, only God can end or edit His commandments.There is no scripture that says the Sabbath commandment ended or can be edited.
Non-responsive to my post. . .The Sabbath in the NT is still according to the commandment Luke 23:56
God's commandments didn't get deleted in the NT. They continue until the end of time kept faithfully by God's people Rev 14:12 Rev 22:14
The St Thomas Christians or the church in India worshipped on the Sabbath till the Roman Catholic Church arrived and discovered them and set about to stop them. They told them that the next Sabbath they would not worship but transfer all to the first day or Sunday or face punishment, and went about enforcing this on all the St Thomas Christians, so there were several 'schism's' from this point as they began to fall apart.It's interesting you claim the Catholic Church made the change. That fails to explain how the Indian Orthodox Church -which was never part of the Catholic Church and was never influenced by it- gathers to worship on Sunday. Just like the Apostles.
Act 2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.
Act 20:7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.
The St Thomas Christians or the church in India worshipped on the Sabbath till the Roman Catholic Church arrived and discovered them and set about to stop them. They told them that the next Sabbath they would not worship but transfer all to the first day or Sunday or face punishment, and went about enforcing this on all the St Thomas Christians, so there were several 'schism's' from this point as they began to fall apart.
I would think around the time 'The Portuguese, during their rule in India, tried to stamp out native Christian practices and enforce strict conformity to Latin rituals. ' Now you see why books were burned by the Roman Catholic Church, as they say the victor writes the narrative...So when did that happen?
I would think around the time 'The Portuguese, during their rule in India, tried to stamp out native Christian practices and enforce strict conformity to Latin rituals. ' Now you see why books were burned by the Roman Catholic Church, as they say the victor writes the narrative...
As I said, there is a reason they burned the books, then it becomes 'unsubstantiated'....You may want to read this.
1. The Mosaic Law has ended in the 1st century:
"For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John."
Mt 11:13
Not ridiculous at all, because the purpose of Torah was to prepare Israel for/until Christ.It would be ridiculous to say that the Torah was not fully expounded until the advent of the Meshiah but then it was abolished as soon as it was fully expounded by the Meshiah.
Not ridiculous at all, because the purpose of Torah was to prepare Israel for/until Christ.
"Before the coming of this faith, we were held in custody under the law...
So the law was our guardian until Christ came...
Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian."
Gal 3:23-25
The opposite would be ridiculous - to think we are still under the guardian after we have become adults.
Before the coming of this faith, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed.Most of scholarship now knows that the KJV has a problem with verb tenses and especially with ginomai.
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