THE SABBATH IS GOD'S 4th COMMANDMENT - WHERE IS THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS IT IS ABOLISHED?

[Lost4words]

We should only follow God's WORD and that is all that has been shared with you.

Its how 'you' interpret the word of God though!

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Its how 'you' interpret the word of God though!

Ideed that is the reason why there is so many different Christian religions and false teachers in the world today. We need God's Spirit to know his Word *JOHN 14:26; 16:13; 7:17; 8:31-36. Fortunately God's WORD tells us how we can know if someone is from God or not and describes who God's people are through the Word of God.

1 JOHN 2:3-4
[3], And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
[4], He that said, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

1 JOHN 3:3-10
[3], And every man that has this hope in him purifies himself, even as he is pure.
[4], Whoever commits sin transgresses also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
[5], And you know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
[6], Whoever stays in him sins not: whoever sins has not seen him, neither known him.
[7], Little children, let no man deceive you: he that does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
[8], He that commits sin is of the devil; for the devil sins from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
[9], Whoever is born of God does not commit sin; for his seed remains in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
[10], In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whoever does not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loves not his brother.

REVELATION 12:17
[17], And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

REVELATION 14:12
[12], Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

REVELATION 22:14
[14], Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

God bless.

 

[ace of hearts]

That is the point. God's WORD does not teach that God's 4th Commandment is abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day. This is a teaching and tradition of men that has led many to break the commandments of God. *MATTHEW 15:3-9.

God's Word clearly says the law will be set aside.

 

[ace of hearts]

Who said you have to keep the law for salvation?

You

 

[ace of hearts]

Well that has no truth in it. Where does it say in God's WORD that the only time JESUS met with the disciples was on the first day of the week? Jesus met everyday with his disciples as they were mostly with him and the custom of JESUS was to keep the SABBATH.

What I said was the only time Jesus met with His disciples mentioned is the first day of the week. IOW there's no reference of Jesus meeting with His disciples on the sabbath. The only day mentioned is the first day of the week, Sunday.

 

[ace of hearts]

The covenants have indeed changed. We are in the NEW COVENANT now and not the OLD so no more sin offerings and no more earthly Sanctuary and Levitical Priesthood. The purpose of God's LAW (10 commandmants) in the NEW COVENANT however has the same role it always had and that is to give us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTOUESNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172. If we break anyone of God's 10 commandments we stand guilty before God of SIN *JAMES 2:10-11. God's 4th Commandment is one of the 10 Commandments that give us the KNOWLEDGE of SIN if broken *EXODUS 20:8-11. According to God's WORD, all those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN *HEBREWS 10:26-27 because they reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23.

And no more law. Lk 16:16; Rom 6, 7:6; Gal 4 and 5.

 

[ace of hearts]

All who continue in KNOWN UNREPENTANT sin will not enter into God's KINGDOM *HEBREWS 10:26-27 because the wages of sin is death to all those who reject the gift of God's dear son to continue in known unrepentant sin *ROMANS 6:23.

This is where you claim the law is required to attain and maintain salvation. Thanks for not making me look up several of your posts to prove the point.

 

[ace of hearts]

There is no such term as beaing "UNDER THE SABBATH". The NEW TESTAMENT does not delete the OLD TESTAMENT scriptures it is a witness to them. In the days of JESUS and the APOSTLES their bible was the OLD TESTAMENT scriptures (law and the prophets).

Only if you dismiss Jer 31:32.

 

[ace of hearts]

Nope. No the Sabbath was not made for the JEWS. JESUS says it was made for ALL MANKIND *MARK 2:27. There was NO JEWS and NO ISRAEL when the SABBATH was made for man. God's SABBATH was made on the SEVENTH DAY of the creation week. Man (Adam and Eve) were created on the SIXTH day of the creation week. There was NO SIN and mankind was in perfect harmony with GOD. JESUS says that the SABBATH was made for mankind *MARK 2:27. We Christians have celebrated God's SABBATH as a memorial of God's creation from the beginning to now unbroken to this very present day because of our faith and LOVE to God.

God bless.

Only if you refuse to believe Moses in Ex 31:13, 17.

 

[ace of hearts]

We should only follow God's WORD and that is all that has been shared with you.

Yes we should cut holes in our Bibles or disbelieve Its words.

 

[ace of hearts]

Ideed that is the reason why there is so many different Christian religions and false teachers in the world today. We need God's Spirit to know his Word *JOHN 14:26; 16:13; 7:17; 8:31-36. Fortunately God's WORD tells us how we can know if someone is from God or not and describes who God's people are through the Word of God.

1 JOHN 2:3-4
[3], And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
[4], He that said, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

If we know Who?

1 JOHN 3:3-10
[3], And every man that has this hope in him purifies himself, even as he is pure.
[4], Whoever commits sin transgresses also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
[5], And you know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
[6], Whoever stays in him sins not: whoever sins has not seen him, neither known him.
[7], Little children, let no man deceive you: he that does righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
[8], He that commits sin is of the devil; for the devil sins from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
[9], Whoever is born of God does not commit sin; for his seed remains in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
[10], In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whoever does not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loves not his brother.

And Who do we stay in? (Hint - Jn 15)

REVELATION 12:17
[17], And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Do what, you say.

REVELATION 14:12
[12], Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

ditto

REVELATION 22:14
[14], Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

God bless.

Sure enough. Doing Who's commandments is the issue.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

You

This is simply sad for you now, Please post a link anywhere in this forum where I have ever posted we have to keep the law for salvation? OBEDIENCE to God's LAW (10 Commandments) is the fruit of FAITH that work by LOVE in those who are BORN AGAIN *ROMANS 13:8-10; 1 JOHN 3:3-10; JOHN 14:15; JOHN 3:15-21 and is the NEW COVENANT promise *HEBREWS 8:10-12.

We are saved ONLY by GRACE through faith and not of ourselves it is a gift of God *EPHESIANS 2:8. All those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN *HEBREWS 10:26-27 because they reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23.

OBEDIENCE to God's LAW is not how we are saved it is the FRUIT of God's work in us as we BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD. If our faith has no fruit it is dead *JAMES 2:18-20; 26 and our tree will be cast down and thrown into the fire *MATTHEW 3:10; 7:19-20; 13:49-50.

However, If we are breaking anyone of God's Commandments then we are not BELIEVING and FOLLOWING God's WORD and do not KNOW him.

1 JOHN 2:3-4
[3], And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
[4], He that said, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

God's Word clearly says the law will be set aside.

Depends what laws your referring to. The MOSAIC SHADOW laws from the MOSAIC BOOK of the OLD COVENANT *EXODUS 24:7; DEUTERONOMY 31:24-26 is fulfilled in Christ and God's plan of salvation in the NEW COVENANT.

God's ETERNAL LAW (10 commandments) according to God's WORD has the same role that it always had and that is to give us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTOUESNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172.

If we break anyone of God's 10 commandments we stand guilty before God of SIN *JAMES 2:10-11. God's 4th Commandment is one of the 10 Commandments that give us the KNOWLEDGE of SIN if broken *EXODUS 20:8-11. According to God's WORD, all those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN *HEBREWS 10:26-27 because they reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23.

Hope this helps

 

[LoveGodsWord]

What I said was the only time Jesus met with His disciples mentioned is the first day of the week. IOW there's no reference of Jesus meeting with His disciples on the sabbath. The only day mentioned is the first day of the week, Sunday.

Not really. JESUS met with his disciples everyday especially on the SABBATH. Jesus met everyday with his disciples as they were mostly with him and the custom of JESUS was to keep the SABBATH.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

And no more law. Lk 16:16; Rom 6, 7:6; Gal 4 and 5.

You are confused by mixing up your shadow laws with those that are eternal. The purpose of God's ETERNAL LAW (10 commandmants) in the NEW COVENANT has the same role it always had and that is to give us the KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL; SIN and RIGHTOUESNESS *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4; PSALMS 119:172. If we break anyone of God's 10 commandments we stand guilty before God of SIN *JAMES 2:10-11. God's 4th Commandment is one of the 10 Commandments that give us the KNOWLEDGE of SIN if broken *EXODUS 20:8-11. According to God's WORD, all those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN *HEBREWS 10:26-27 because they reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

This is where you claim the law is required to attain and maintain salvation. Thanks for not making me look up several of your posts to prove the point.

Not at all you are confused. We are saved by GRACE through faith and not of ourselves it is a gift of God *EPHESIANS 2:8. All those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN *HEBREWS 10:26-27 because they reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23. OBEDIENCE to God's LAW is not how we are saved it is the FRUIT of God's work in us as we BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD. If our faith has no fruit it is dead *JAMES 2:18-20; 26 and our tree will be cast down and thrown into the fire *MATTHEW 3:10; 7:19-20; 13:49-50.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Only if you dismiss Jer 31:32.

Doesn't make any sense to what you are quoting from.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Only if you refuse to believe Moses in Ex 31:13, 17.

Not at all. The Sabbath was not made for the JEWS. JESUS says it was made for ALL MANKIND *MARK 2:27.

There was NO JEWS and NO ISRAEL when the SABBATH was made for man in the creation week was there *GENESIS 2:1-3?

God's SABBATH was made on the SEVENTH DAY of the creation week. Man (Adam and Eve) were created on the SIXTH day of the creation week. There was NO SIN and mankind was in perfect harmony with GOD. JESUS says that the SABBATH was made for mankind *MARK 2:27.

Christians have celebrated God's SABBATH as a memorial of God's creation from the beginning to now unbroken to this very present day because of our faith and LOVE to God.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Yes we should cut holes in our Bibles or disbelieve Its words.

Sadly this is true for many. Unfortunately these will find out when it is too late *JOHN 12:47-48. Many will be dissappoined come judgment day *MATTHEW 7:13-23

 

[LoveGodsWord]

If we know Who?And Who do we stay in? (Hint - Jn 15)Do what, you say.dittoSure enough. Doing Who's commandments is the issue.

Sin (breaking God's LAW) will keep all those who KNOWINGLY practice it out of God's KINGDOM *HEBREWS 10:26-27 because they reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23.