THE SABBATH IS GOD'S 4th COMMANDMENT - WHERE IS THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS IT IS ABOLISHED?

[LoveGodsWord]

Back to the OP now..

The challenge I am putting up here is for anyone to show even one scripture that says God's 4th Commandment of the 10 commandments (Exodus 20:8-11) which was spoken and written by God himself to his people, has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day.

Can anyone please show me where in all the bible does is say (SOLA SCRIPTURA; Scripture only please)...

1. That God's 4th commandments 7th day Sabbath has been abolished?

2. That Jesus is a Sabbath?

3. The Sabbath (seventh day) was ever changed from the seventh to the first day of the week?

4. Where we are told to keep the first day of the week holy?

5. Where the first day of the week (Sunday) is ever called a holy day?

6. That says that Jesus ever kept the first day (Sunday)?

7. That tells us to keep the first day in honour of the resurrection of Christ?

8. Where the first day is ever given any sacred name?

9. That affirms that any of the apostles ever kept the first day as the Sabbath?

10. From any apostolic writings that authorizes Sunday observance as the Sabbath of God?

11. Where we are told not to work on the first day of the week?

12. That says the seventh day is no longer God's Sabbath day?

13. That says the seventh day Sabbath is ABOLISHED?

14. Where the apostles ever taught any convert to keep the first day of the week as a Sabbath?

15. Where the first day was ever appointed to be kept as the Lord's Day?

16. Where the first day of the week is ever called the Lord's Day?

17. That says that the first day of the week was ever sanctified and hallowed as a day of rest?

18. That says that the Father or the Son (Jesus) rested on the first day of the week?

19. That says that Jesus, Paul or any other of the apostles taught anyone to observe the first day of the week as the Sabbath?

20. That calls the seventh day the “Jewish Sabbath” or one text that calls Sunday the “Christian Sabbath”?

21. Telling man to keep the first day of the week holy or to worship or rest on the first day of the week?

22. Authorizing anyone to set aside God's Sabbath and observe any other day?

23. Showing any of the apostles keeping the first day of the week as the Sabbath?

24. Authorizing someone to set aside the fourth Commandment and observe any other day of the week?

25. Where any apostle taught us to keep the first day of the week as the Sabbath?

26. Declaring that the seventh day is no longer the Eternal Sabbath day?

27. Where Sunday is now appointed to be kept as the New Testament Sabbath or holy day?

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Something to think about here because we are all accountable to God come judgment day where we will all be judged by the Word of God (John 12:47-48).

God bless.

 

[ace of hearts]

The answer is in the very post you were quoting from. You did not read it did you.

GREEK WORD MEANINGS AND WORD USE

14, “BLOTTING OUT” < G1813 ἐξαλείφω exaleipho (ex-a-lei'-fō) v. means to rub out, i.e. obliterate, erase> the “HANDWRITING” < G5498 χειρόγραφον cheirographon (chei-ro'-gra-fon) n. means something hand-written (“chirograph”), a manuscript specially, a legal document > of “ORDINANCES” < G1378 δόγμα dogma (d̮og'-ma) n. means ordinance; CIVIL, CEREMONIAL or ECCLESIASTICAL LAWS> that was against us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

The GREEK WORD meanings here in this scripture show that it follows the same CONTEXT of v11-13 in relation to the CEREMONIAL ORDINANCES found in the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT *EXODUS 24:7.

V14 Blotting out or erasing the legal MANUSCRIPT or document of ORDINANCES referred to here are those of the CEREMONIAL ORDINANCES from the MOSAIC BOOK of the COVENANT.

The GREEK word for ORDIANACE is DOGMA meaning THE CIVIL, CEREMONIAL and ECCLESIASTICAL ORDINANCES once again only found in the MOSAIC BOOK of the Covenant *EXODUS 24:7

This scripture cannot be referring to the abolishing of the 10 commandments of God’s LAW as God’s 10 Commandments are not ORDINANCES and they are not written in a MANUSCRIPT they are written on two tables of stone (Exodus 31:18). Also the chapter CONTEXT is in reference to the CEREMONIAL ORDINANCES of CIRCUMCISION once again from the MOSAIC BOOK of the OLD COVENANT. These were all SHADOWS ALONG WITH THE ORDINANCES OF v17 pointing to Christ and the plan of SALVATION.

ORDINANCES that were against us is referring to the also referring to the PENALTY of SIN (breaking God’s Commandments and the ORDINANCES of curses written once again in the MOSAIC BOOK of the Covenant.

DEUTERONOMY 31:26 [26] Take this Book of the Law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there FOR A WITNESS AGAINST THEE.

DEUTERONOMY 30:19 [19] For GOD has said, I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, BLESSINGS AND CURSES: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: [20] That thou mayest love the Lord thy God, and that thou mayest OBEY his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the LORD swore unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.

(See the list of ORDINACES for curses of breaking Gods’ Law in DEUTERONOMY 28:15-68)

CONCLUSION; COL 2:14 is talking about the CEREMONIAL ORDINANCES written in the MOSIAC BOOK of the Covenant which are SHADOW laws pointing to Jesus and God’s plan of SALVATION. This is supported also by the within CHAPTER CONTEXT and SUBJECT matter of v16 which are all CEREMONIAL ORDINANCES written in the MOCAIC BOOK of the COVENANT and not referring to ABOLISHING God’s 10 Commandments.

Please explain how ceremony is against us.

 

[ace of hearts]

God's WORD says that no one enters into God's rest while KNOWINGLY breaking any one of His Commandments as they are not BELIEVING and FOLLOWING him and do not know him or LOVE him and need to be BORN AGAIN. *JAMES 2:10-11; 1 JOHN 2:3-4; JOHN 14:15; HEBREWS 3 and HEBREWS 4; 1 JOHN 3:9; JOHN 3:3-7.

No one can enter God's rest by keeping (well trying to keep) the law. Jesus said to law keepers -

Mat 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Please explain how ceremony is against us.

Read the post you are quoting from. Do you know why the ceremonial laws for sin offerings were given in the OLD Covenant and what they needed to do if they sinned against God and what was required for forgiveness?

 

[LoveGodsWord]

No one can enter God's rest by keeping (well trying to keep) the law.

Who said that anyone can? OBEDIENCE is the FRUIT of FAITH that works by LOVE, not how we are saved.

Jesus said to law keepers - Mat 11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

As posted earlier; God's WORD says that no one enters into God's rest while KNOWINGLY breaking any one of His Commandments as they are not BELIEVING and FOLLOWING him and do not know him or LOVE him and need to be BORN AGAIN. *JAMES 2:10-11; 1 JOHN 2:3-4; JOHN 14:15; HEBREWS 3 and HEBREWS 4; 1 JOHN 3:9; JOHN 3:3-7.

 

[ace of hearts]

If we are not BORN AGAIN we are still dead in tresspasses and sin and do not know God *EPHESIANS 2:1; 1 JOHN 2:3-4; 1 JOHN 3:3-10.

Gal 5 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.

3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.

4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.

6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.

7 Ye did run well; who did hinder you that ye should not obey the truth?

8 This persuasion cometh not of him that calleth you.

9 A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.

10 I have confidence in you through the Lord, that ye will be none otherwise minded: but he that troubleth you shall bear his judgment, whosoever he be.

 

[ace of hearts]

Indeed; those who knowingly continue in sin (breaking his LAW) do not know him *1 JOHN 3:6; 1 JOHN 2:3-4

You know God's love letter is written to His lovers. Personally I don't think you have the right or permission to explain my personal love letter to me.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Gal 5 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.

3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.

4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.

6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.

7 Ye did run well; who did hinder you that ye should not obey the truth?

8 This persuasion cometh not of him that calleth you.

9 A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.

10 I have confidence in you through the Lord, that ye will be none otherwise minded: but he that troubleth you shall bear his judgment, whosoever he be.

CIRCUMCISION has nothing to do with God's 10 commandments. It is a SHADOW law pointing to a new heart by FAITH from the MOSAIC BOOK of the OLD COVENANT *EXODUS 24:7. No one is telling you that your rightouesness comes by the law so what is your argument? Thats right you have none.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

You know God's love letter is written to His lovers.

Those who break Gods' Commandments do not LOVE him neither do they know him *JOHN 14:15; 1 JOHN 2:3-4; 1 JOHN 3:6.

 

[ace of hearts]

Back to the OP now..

The challenge I am putting up here is for anyone to show even one scripture that says God's 4th Commandment of the 10 commandments (Exodus 20:8-11) which was spoken and written by God himself to his people, has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day.

Can anyone please show me where in all the bible does is say (SOLA SCRIPTURA; Scripture only please)...

1. That God's 4th commandments 7th day Sabbath has been abolished?

2. That Jesus is a Sabbath?

3. The Sabbath (seventh day) was ever changed from the seventh to the first day of the week?

4. Where we are told to keep the first day of the week holy?

5. Where the first day of the week (Sunday) is ever called a holy day?

6. That says that Jesus ever kept the first day (Sunday)?

7. That tells us to keep the first day in honour of the resurrection of Christ?

8. Where the first day is ever given any sacred name?

9. That affirms that any of the apostles ever kept the first day as the Sabbath?

10. From any apostolic writings that authorizes Sunday observance as the Sabbath of God?

11. Where we are told not to work on the first day of the week?

12. That says the seventh day is no longer God's Sabbath day?

13. That says the seventh day Sabbath is ABOLISHED?

14. Where the apostles ever taught any convert to keep the first day of the week as a Sabbath?

15. Where the first day was ever appointed to be kept as the Lord's Day?

16. Where the first day of the week is ever called the Lord's Day?

17. That says that the first day of the week was ever sanctified and hallowed as a day of rest?

18. That says that the Father or the Son (Jesus) rested on the first day of the week?

19. That says that Jesus, Paul or any other of the apostles taught anyone to observe the first day of the week as the Sabbath?

20. That calls the seventh day the “Jewish Sabbath” or one text that calls Sunday the “Christian Sabbath”?

21. Telling man to keep the first day of the week holy or to worship or rest on the first day of the week?

22. Authorizing anyone to set aside God's Sabbath and observe any other day?

23. Showing any of the apostles keeping the first day of the week as the Sabbath?

24. Authorizing someone to set aside the fourth Commandment and observe any other day of the week?

25. Where any apostle taught us to keep the first day of the week as the Sabbath?

26. Declaring that the seventh day is no longer the Eternal Sabbath day?

27. Where Sunday is now appointed to be kept as the New Testament Sabbath or holy day?

...................

Something to think about here because we are all accountable to God come judgment day where we will all be judged by the Word of God (John 12:47-48).

God bless.

That command was given only to Israel as Moses says in Ex 31:13, 17 and Deut 5:1-3.

 

[ace of hearts]

Read the post you are quoting from. Do you know why the ceremonial laws for sin offerings were given in the OLD Covenant?

That doesn't explain why ceremonial laws are against us.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

That command was given only to Israel as Moses says in Ex 31:13, 17 and Deut 5:1-3.

Not at all. God's SABBATH was made for mankind *MARK 2:27 BEFORE ISRAEL existed. In the NEW COVNENANT God's ISRAEL are all those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD. If you are not a part of God's ISRAEL you have no part in the NEW COVENANT *HEBREWS 8:10-12. Gentiles are now grafted in *ROMANS 11:13-27.

 

[ace of hearts]

Who said that anyone can? OBEDIENCE is the FRUIT of FAITH that works by LOVE, not how we are saved.

As posted earlier; God's WORD says that no one enters into God's rest while KNOWINGLY breaking any one of His Commandments as they are not BELIEVING and FOLLOWING him and do not know him or LOVE him and need to be BORN AGAIN. *JAMES 2:10-11; 1 JOHN 2:3-4; JOHN 14:15; HEBREWS 3 and HEBREWS 4; 1 JOHN 3:9; JOHN 3:3-7.

Works of the law aren't spoken of as fruits. Gal 5:22-23.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

That doesn't explain why ceremonial laws are against us.

Why not? There is a penalty for sin in both the OLD COVENANT and the NEW COVENANT.

 

[ace of hearts]

CIRCUMCISION has nothing to do with God's 10 commandments. It is a SHADOW law pointing to a new heart by FAITH from the MOSAIC BOOK of the OLD COVENANT *EXODUS 24:7. No one is telling you that your rightouesness comes by the law so what is your argument? Thats right you have none.

There are 10 commandments, right?

 

[ace of hearts]

Those who break Gods' Commandments do not LOVE him neither do they know him *JOHN 14:15; 1 JOHN 2:3-4; 1 JOHN 3:6.

Noe of these passages refer to the famous 10.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

How many commandments do you say there are?

God's WORD says there was 10 commandments spoken and written by God alone on two tables of stone *EXODUS 32:16; EXODUS 20:1-17. The supporting laws and SHADOW laws *EXODUS 24:7 were written in the MOSAIC BOOK of the law DEUTERONOMY 31:26.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Noe of these passages refer to the famous 10.

All of them do. You have already been shown the context you have left out from ealier posts to you that you never respond to. (e.g. click me)

 

[ace of hearts]

Not at all. God's SABBATH was made for mankind *MARK 2:27 BEFORE ISRAEL existed. In the NEW COVNENANT God's ISRAEL are all those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD. If you are not a part of God's ISRAEL you have no part in the NEW COVENANT *HEBREWS 8:10-12. Gentiles are now grafted in *ROMANS 11:13-27.

Ex 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the Lord that doth sanctify you.

Where does the above verse say anything about all mankind?

Your Mk 2:27 is out of context or Jesus/Moses is lying. Take your pick.

 

[ace of hearts]

Why not? There is a penalty for sin in both the OLD COVENANT and the NEW COVENANT.

I asked about ceremonial laws being against us. Please show how they're against us.