The Sabbath and evolution

[Joe67]

It is important to remember that the gospel was preached to both Abraham and to the 12 tribes at Sinai.

Abraham believed the gospel preached to him.

The 12 tribes did not believe the gospel preached to them.

Gal 3:8-9
8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham. KJV

Heb 3:18-4:2
18 And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?

19 So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.

4:1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.

2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. KJV

The form of words and the object of the words varied between what the Lord said to Abraham and what was spoken to the 12 tribes. In both cases the gospel of God in his Son, Jesus of Nazareth, was the way of fulfilling the promise.

The promised of God in the gospel of his Son, Jesus, now comes to us in the open verbalization of free forgiveness and imputation of righteousness.

The principle of the Sabbath, resting from our own works (dying in the Lord), now comes to us apart from time and buildings made with hands and offerings made with hands. Some while resting from the Jewish form of these modes of resting and worshiping, have instituted their own forms of time and buildings and offerings made with human hands. Some are still bound under the Jewish forms of time and buildings and human offerings, though few practice physical circumcision on the male body as a requirement.

Rev 12:11
11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death. KJV

These three functions are the ingredients of the three angels messages of the everlasting gospel.

The same three ingredients are witnessed in chapter 14.

Rev 14:12-13
12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them. KJV

The commandments make them conscious of their need of the blood. The faith opens their mouth to confess the Lord. Then the mature spiritual death comes to them as they are brought into spiritual parenthood for those about them who need to feel their need of the blood and need to confess that Jesus is Lord.

When Job prayed for his three "friends", then they began to remember the sabbath/sacrifice of God and they began to offer the bullocks and the rams to the Lord, and they were accepted. Job's captivity was turned and he was restored double in possessions and was given the same offspring format.

The first sabbath experience is in offering the sacrifice. The second sabbath experience is in praying for our tormentors/friends. The first delivers us from Egypt. The second delivers us from Babylon. Egypt is a metaphor for lust. Babylon is a metaphor for pride. Evolution is modern day Babylonian pride. "Is this not great Babylon which I have built."

Joe

 

[k4c]

Without the sabbath, would we lose all evidence that God is creator? Would we forget?

What role does the Holy Spirit play?

BFA

We would not lose all evidence of a Creator but we would lose the sign that shows we worship and believe in the Creator.

Ezekiel 20:20 Keep my Sabbaths holy; let them be a sign between me and you, so that people may know that I am LORD your God.

Revelation 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, "Fear God and give glory to Him, for the hour of His judgment has come; and worship Him who made heaven and earth, the sea and springs of water.''

The Holy Spirit empowers us to keep the Sabbath because He will convict the world of sin and of righteousness. Not only that, He will empower us to want to keep it holy because we love God. You won't find this desire to keep it holy because we love God without the Holy Spirit.

 

[Byfaithalone1]

We would not lose all evidence of a Creator but we would lose the sign that shows we worship and believe in the Creator.

Ezekiel 20:20 Keep my Sabbaths holy; let them be a sign between me and you, so that people may know that I am LORD your God.

"12The LORD spoke to Moses, saying,

13"But as for you, speak to the sons of Israel, saying, 'You shall surely observe My sabbaths; for this is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that I am the LORD who sanctifies you.
14'Therefore you are to observe the sabbath, for it is holy to you. Everyone who profanes it shall surely be put to death; for whoever does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from among his people.
15'For six days work may be done, but on the seventh day there is a sabbath of complete rest, holy to the LORD; whoever does any work on the sabbath day shall surely be put to death.
16'So the sons of Israel shall observe the sabbath, to celebrate the sabbath throughout their generations as a perpetual covenant.'
17"It is a sign between Me and the sons of Israel forever; for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, but on the seventh day He ceased from labor, and was refreshed." 18When He had finished speaking with him upon Mount Sinai, He gave Moses the two tablets of the testimony, tablets of stone, written by the finger of God." Exodus 31
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The sabbath is not a sign between me and God. As a recipient of the Holy Spirit, I will not lose sight of the One who is my Creator.

BFA

 

[k4c]

Byfaithalone1;

"12The LORD spoke to Moses, saying,

13"But as for you, speak to the sons of Israel, saying, 'You shall surely observe My sabbaths; for this is a sign between Me and you throughout your generations, that you may know that I am the LORD who sanctifies you.
14'Therefore you are to observe the sabbath, for it is holy to you. Everyone who profanes it shall surely be put to death; for whoever does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from among his people.
15'For six days work may be done, but on the seventh day there is a sabbath of complete rest, holy to the LORD; whoever does any work on the sabbath day shall surely be put to death.
16'So the sons of Israel shall observe the sabbath, to celebrate the sabbath throughout their generations as a perpetual covenant.'
17"It is a sign between Me and the sons of Israel forever; for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, but on the seventh day He ceased from labor, and was refreshed." 18When He had finished speaking with him upon Mount Sinai, He gave Moses the two tablets of the testimony, tablets of stone, written by the finger of God." Exodus 31​

Israel is a picture of all who call on the Lord.

Isaiah 56:6 As for the Gentiles, the outsiders who join the people of the Lord and serve him and love his name, and are his servants and don't desecrate the Sabbath, and have accepted his covenant and promises,
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The sabbath is not a sign between me and God. As a recipient of the Holy Spirit, I will not lose sight of the One who is my Creator.

BFA

Titus 1:16 They profess to know God, but in works they deny Him, being abominable, disobedient, and disqualified for every good work.

 

[VictorC]

Israel is a picture of all who call on the Lord.

Isaiah 56:6 As for the Gentiles, the outsiders who join the people of the Lord and serve him and love his name, and are his servants and don't desecrate the Sabbath, and have accepted his covenant and promises,

So the only way you can call on the Lord is to abandon Christianity and become bound to the first covenant mediated in the hands of Moses?

 

[Byfaithalone1]

Israel is a picture of all who call on the Lord.

No, indeed, it is not. The gospel is for Jews and Gentiles alike. Gentiles need not become Jews in order to call on the Lord. The wild branches are grafted in among the natural branches; they do not become natural branches.

The sabbath was a sign between God and Israel and its generations. I am not one of those generations. The Bible never teaches that the sabbath was a sign between God and non-Israelites.

I do, however, find it interesting that you seem to teach that Gentiles should be subject to the old covenant.

BFA

 

[k4c]

No, indeed, it is not. The gospel is for Jews and Gentiles alike. Gentiles need not become Jews in order to call on the Lord. The wild branches are grafted in among the natural branches; they do not become natural branches.

The sabbath was a sign between God and Israel and its generations. I am not one of those generations. The Bible never teaches that the sabbath was a sign between God and non-Israelites.

I do, however, find it interesting that you seem to teach that Gentiles should be subject to the old covenant.

BFA

The Sabbath was made for man...

 

[k4c]

So the only way you can call on the Lord is to abandon Christianity and become bound to the first covenant mediated in the hands of Moses?

Do you know that salvation is of the Jews...I guess that leaves us out. Oh but wait, God has made a people of all nations who are circumsied of the heart ie: spiritual Jews. This is probably over your head but if you seek God in your study time He will show you.

 

[Byfaithalone1]

The Sabbath was made for man...

I agree. It was a sign between God and Israelites.

Now let's address the second part of Christ's statement. Man was not made for the sabbath. Since we know that this is true, it must also be true that the sabbath will not eventually be the great final test that will determine which man is of God and which man is not of God. It's interesting how the second part of Jesus' statement is so often ignored.

BFA

 

[VictorC]

Do you know that salvation is of the Jews...I guess that leaves us out. Oh but wait, God has made a people of all nations who are circumsied of the heart ie: spiritual Jews. This is probably over your head but if you seek God in your study time He will show you.

You merely affirm a conclusion you've arrived at that the only means to call on the Lord is to abandon Christianity and seek the means dictated under the covenant mediated by Moses, before the Spirit of God's adoption was given.

Scripture testifies otherwise:

Hebrews 7
18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness,
19 for the law made nothing perfect; on the other hand, there is the bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God.

Romans 8
9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.

 

[k4c]

You merely affirm a conclusion you've arrived at that the only means to call on the Lord is to abandon Christianity and seek the means dictated under the covenant mediated by Moses, before the Spirit of God's adoption was given.

Scripture testifies otherwise:

Hebrews 7
18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness,
19 for the law made nothing perfect; on the other hand, there is the bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God.

Romans 8
9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.

Remember, the new covenant, of which you already confirmed as the gospel, is for the house of Israel.

 

[VictorC]

Remember, the new covenant, of which you already confirmed as the gospel, is for the house of Israel.

Without needing to point out that the new covenant was the only covenant made with the Gentiles, I consider it most germane to point out that your response is completely unrelated to the post you responded to:

Do you know that salvation is of the Jews...I guess that leaves us out. Oh but wait, God has made a people of all nations who are circumsied of the heart ie: spiritual Jews. This is probably over your head but if you seek God in your study time He will show you.

You merely affirm a conclusion you've arrived at that the only means to call on the Lord is to abandon Christianity and seek the means dictated under the covenant mediated by Moses, before the Spirit of God's adoption was given.

Scripture testifies otherwise:

Hebrews 7
18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness,
19 for the law made nothing perfect; on the other hand, there is the bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God.

Romans 8
9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.

 

[k4c]

Without needing to point out that the new covenant was the only covenant made with the Gentiles, I consider it most germane to point out that your response is completely unrelated to the post you responded to:

You merely affirm a conclusion you've arrived at that the only means to call on the Lord is to abandon Christianity and seek the means dictated under the covenant mediated by Moses, before the Spirit of God's adoption was given.

Scripture testifies otherwise:

Hebrews 7
18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness,
19 for the law made nothing perfect; on the other hand, there is the bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God.

Romans 8
9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.

Hebrews 8:8 Because finding fault with them, He says: "Behold, the days are coming,'' says the Lord, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah.

You must have missed this one.

Hebrews 8:10 "For this is the new covenant that I will make with the house of Israel: After those days,'' says the Lord, "I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

Ooops! This one must have slipped by you too.

 

[VictorC]

Hebrews 8:8 Because finding fault with them, He says: "Behold, the days are coming,'' says the Lord, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah.

You must have missed this one.

Hebrews 8:10 "For this is the new covenant that I will make with the house of Israel: After those days,'' says the Lord, "I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

Ooops! This one must have slipped by you too.

And the reason you didn't quote from Hebrews 8:9?
Simple.
It contradicts your contention that Sinai was written into anyone's heart or mind, and again you repeat the same error without making the smallest effort to determine what God's "My law" refers to.

And, your response doesn't answer the post presented to you.

Remember, the new covenant, of which you already confirmed as the gospel, is for the house of Israel.

Without needing to point out that the new covenant was the only covenant made with the Gentiles, I consider it most germane to point out that your response is completely unrelated to the post you responded to:

Do you know that salvation is of the Jews...I guess that leaves us out. Oh but wait, God has made a people of all nations who are circumsied of the heart ie: spiritual Jews. This is probably over your head but if you seek God in your study time He will show you.

You merely affirm a conclusion you've arrived at that the only means to call on the Lord is to abandon Christianity and seek the means dictated under the covenant mediated by Moses, before the Spirit of God's adoption was given.

Scripture testifies otherwise:

Hebrews 7
18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness,
19 for the law made nothing perfect; on the other hand, there is the bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God.

Romans 8
9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.

 

[k4c]

VictorC; And the reason you didn't quote from Hebrews 8:9?
Simple.
It contradicts your contention that Sinai was written into anyone's heart or mind, and again you repeat the same error without making the smallest effort to determine what God's "My law" refers to.

And, your response doesn't answer the post presented to you.

I didn't quote Hebrews 8:9 because it had nothing to do with the point I was trying to say to you but Hebrews 8:9 and 10 are very good verses to quote to show you how God will write His Law in our hearts. I've used these verses many times to show you how God will lead us by the heart when He writes His Law in our hearts and minds rather than leading by the hand, as He did under the old covenant with the Law written on stone.

Hebrews 8:9-10 "not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they did not continue in My covenant, and I disregarded them,'' says the Lord."For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel: After those days,'' says the Lord, "I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

Without needing to point out that the new covenant was the only covenant made with the Gentiles, I consider it most germane to point out that your response is completely unrelated to the post you responded to:

The new covnenat was made to the house of Israel, the Gentiles came after and were grafted in. Not vice versa...

Matthew 10:5-8 Jesus sent the twelve out with these instructions: "Don't go to the Gentiles or the Samaritans, but only to the people of Israel--God's lost sheep. Go and announce to them that the Kingdom of Heaven is near. Heal the sick, raise the dead, cure the lepers, and cast out demons. Give as freely as you have received!

Ephesians 2:11-12 Therefore remember that you, once Gentiles in the flesh who are called Uncircumcision by what is called the Circumcision made in the flesh by hands that at that time you were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world.

You merely affirm a conclusion you've arrived at that the only means to call on the Lord is to abandon Christianity and seek the means dictated under the covenant mediated by Moses, before the Spirit of God's adoption was given.

Scripture testifies otherwise:

Hebrews 7
18 For on the one hand there is an annulling of the former commandment because of its weakness and unprofitableness,
19 for the law made nothing perfect; on the other hand, there is the bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God.

Romans 8
9 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.

Christanilty is only a nickname given to those who follow Christ. Christ is our example and Christ kept the Ten Commandments, including the fourth. Now don't get me wrong, we are not under the old agreement which empowered the Law with a curse because of sin. We are under the new agreement, which is where Jesus takes away our sin which removes the death sentence. We now delight in the Law.

Romans 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

Beautiful...

 

[VictorC]

I didn't quote Hebrews 8:9 because it had nothing to do with the point I was trying to say to you but Hebrews 8:9 and 10 are very good verses to quote to show you how God will write His Law in our hearts. I've used these verses many times to show you how God will lead us by the heart when He writes His Law in our hearts and minds rather than leading by the hand, as He did under the old covenant with the Law written on stone.

Hebrews 8:9-10 "not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they did not continue in My covenant, and I disregarded them,'' says the Lord."For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel: After those days,'' says the Lord, "I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

Scripture never seems to say what you want it to say, regardless of the creative measures you employ. Hebrews 8:9 specifies that the new covenant would not be according to the covenant made at Mount Sinai, which was the ten commandments. This verse refutes your notion that the same law written on tables of stone is the same that is written on anyone's heart or mind. This has been pointed out to you many times, and each time you see this you contradict Scripture by claiming that the same law written on stone is in your heart. It is not. When tasked to determine what law is written into our hearts and minds, you don't make the slightest effort to find anything compliant with the verses you're reading. You merely repeat the same mindless mantra that has been proven to be false countless times.

The new covnenat was made to the house of Israel, the Gentiles came after and were grafted in. Not vice versa...

What eludes you is that it was called a new covenant with Israel and Judah, because it was only to Israel and Judah that there was a first covenant that it would replace. For the Gentiles, the new covenant wasn't new in that it replaced anything, but rather it was the only covenant made with the Gentiles - even though it is precisely the same covenant, adoption by God's Spirit. The Gentiles never received nor would they ever receive the first covenant, which was the ten commandments.

Christanilty is only a nickname given to those who follow Christ. Christ is our example and Christ kept the Ten Commandments, including the fourth. Now don't get me wrong, we are not under the old agreement which empowered the Law with a curse because of sin. We are under the new agreement, which is where Jesus takes away our sin which removes the death sentence. We now delight in the Law.

Romans 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:

Beautiful...

A pity you don't affirm the new covenant, and in your posts you haven't made any effort to determine what it is. If you haven't been redeemed by Jesus and sealed with His Spirit, you aren't adopted, and you aren't His. That is the meaning of Romans 8:9: "Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His."

Galatians 4:5 told you exactly why Jesus kept the ten commandments, including the sabbath: "to redeem those who were under the law, that we might receive the adoption as sons". That statement in in the past-tense; neither Jesus nor His purchased possession keep the sabbath, as we have entered into God's rest the sabbath was only a shadow of. The permanent reality has replaced the temporal shadow you're still bound to.

Your delight in the law ordained in the first covenant does not bring you any closer to compliance with it, nor did it Paul, who wrote "I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain" in Galatians 2:21. You are not following Jesus Christ.

 

[k4c]

VictorC; Scripture never seems to say what you want it to say, regardless of the creative measures you employ. Hebrews 8:9 specifies that the new covenant would not be according to the covenant made at Mount Sinai, which was the ten commandments. This verse refutes your notion that the same law written on tables of stone is the same that is written on anyone's heart or mind. This has been pointed out to you many times, and each time you see this you contradict Scripture by claiming that the same law written on stone is in your heart. It is not. When tasked to determine what law is written into our hearts and minds, you don't make the slightest effort to find anything compliant with the verses you're reading. You merely repeat the same mindless mantra that has been proven to be false countless times.

Which Law is this that is being confirmed in the new covenant?

Ephesians 6:1-3 Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. "Honor your father and mother,'' which is the first commandment with promise: "that it may be well with you and you may live long on the earth.''

The fact that he says, it's the first commandment, tells us it's part of a list with this one being the first in the list to contain a promise built right in it. Now if you're honest you will have to say that list is referring to the Ten Commandments.

Now, either it's a new covenant with nothing from the old covenant, as you teach and believe or the Ten Commandments are part of the new covnenat as God uses them to write in our hearts and minds.

Hebrews 8:10 "For this is the new covenant that I will make with the house of Israel: After those days,'' says the Lord, "I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

Your belief system is beginning to crumble.

What eludes you is that it was called a new covenant with Israel and Judah, because it was only to Israel and Judah that there was a first covenant that it would replace. For the Gentiles, the new covenant wasn't new in that it replaced anything, but rather it was the only covenant made with the Gentiles - even though it is precisely the same covenant, adoption by God's Spirit. The Gentiles never received nor would they ever receive the first covenant, which was the ten commandments.

New refers to the terms not the content as I have proven to you so many times now.

A pity you don't affirm the new covenant, and in your posts you haven't made any effort to determine what it is. If you haven't been redeemed by Jesus and sealed with His Spirit, you aren't adopted, and you aren't His. That is the meaning of Romans 8:9: "Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His."

You just clarified the new covenant. If you would only listen to yourself.

The filling of the Spirit is the new covenant. It's that filling of the Spirit that will empower us to keep God's Law.

Ezekiel 36:26-28 "I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. "I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them. "Then you shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; you shall be My people, and I will be your God.

Galatians 4:5 told you exactly why Jesus kept the ten commandments, including the sabbath: "to redeem those who were under the law, that we might receive the adoption as sons". That statement in in the past-tense; neither Jesus nor His purchased possession keep the sabbath, as we have entered into God's rest the sabbath was only a shadow of. The permanent reality has replaced the temporal shadow you're still bound to.

The sacredness and blessedness of the seventh day is never called a shadow that came as a result of sin. The seventh day was part of creation before sin.

Your delight in the law ordained in the first covenant does not bring you any closer to compliance with it, nor did it Paul, who wrote "I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain" in Galatians 2:21. You are not following Jesus Christ.

This above statement is right where you stray from truth. Under the new covenant the Law is not the means to become justified or made righteous before God, Jesus is. But that does not mean the Law is done away with. The Law defines godly love towards God and neighbor and the Spirit living inside us gives us the power to express that love even to our enemies. Love towards God includes remembering the Sabbath. You know, if my wife love roses and I want to express my love for her I will buy her roses. Now if God loves when His people remember the Sabbath I'm going to remember the Sabbath.

Remember the second commandment regarding images. God says whoever violates the commandments makes known they hate God but whever keeps His commandments makes known they love Him.

Exodus 20:4-6 "You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

Come on now, your half baked belief system has to be crumbling by now...

 

[VictorC]

Which Law is this that is being confirmed in the new covenant?

Ephesians 6:1-3 Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. "Honor your father and mother,'' which is the first commandment with promise: "that it may be well with you and you may live long on the earth.''

The fact that he says, it's the first commandment, tells us it's part of a list with this one being the first in the list to contain a promise built right in it. Now if you're honest you will have to say that list is referring to the Ten Commandments.

Don't you realize that you admit this is a reference to the first covenant, expressed in a manner that is not binding as the law was? It isn't part of the new covenant. It doesn't even appear in a passage describing the new covenant.

Now, either it's a new covenant with nothing from the old covenant, as you teach and believe or the Ten Commandments are part of the new covnenat as God uses them to write in our hearts and minds.

Scripture affirms the old covenant was taken away, and the ten commandments are that old covenant we were delivered from, as shown in Romans 7:6-7. Nowhere have you found any passage of Scripture telling you that the ten commandments have been written into anyone's heart or mind.

Hebrews 8:10 "For this is the new covenant that I will make with the house of Israel: After those days,'' says the Lord, "I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.

Nowhere have you found any passage of Scripture telling you that the ten commandments have been written into anyone's heart or mind. This is proven in the verse previous, Hebrews 8:9, where it affirms the new covenant is not according to the covenant made at Mount Sinai.

Your belief system is beginning to crumble.

Hardly.
You just repeat this unBiblical game of yours with no effort made to determine God's "My law" that He gave us.

New refers to the terms not the content as I have proven to you so many times now.

You haven't proven anything - you merely contradict Moses when He applied a proper noun to the first covenant given at Mount Sinai: the ten commandments. The terms Moses conveyed to the children of Israel was compliance or die in Deuteronomy 30. The covenant itself was the content, to use your term.

You just clarified the new covenant. If you would only listen to yourself.

The filling of the Spirit is the new covenant. It's that filling of the Spirit that will empower us to keep God's Law.

Ezekiel 36:26-28 "I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. "I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will keep My judgments and do them. "Then you shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; you shall be My people, and I will be your God.

Why then do you assert that you do not have God's law written into you?
You continue to fabricate evidence, and you already know that Ezekiel 36:27 refers to God's choq and mishpat - not the torah of the first covenant.

The sacredness and blessedness of the seventh day is never called a shadow that came as a result of sin. The seventh day was part of creation before sin.

A mind unwilling to comprehend what it reads is unable to distinguish the seventh day apart from the sabbath, which is called a shadow replaced by the reality found in Christ.

This above statement is right where you stray from truth.

Where, exactly? Read it again:
Your delight in the law ordained in the first covenant does not bring you any closer to compliance with it, nor did it Paul, who wrote "I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain" in Galatians 2:21. You are not following Jesus Christ.

Please explain where any error is made. You affirm you follow Moses, and not Jesus by belonging to the first covenant.

Under the new covenant the Law is not the means to become justified or made righteous before God, Jesus is. But that does not mean the Law is done away with.

Why do you contradict Scripture?

The Law defines godly love towards God and neighbor and the Spirit living inside us gives us the power to express that love even to our enemies.

Why do you fabricate evidence with nothing to support it?

Love towards God includes remembering the Sabbath.

Why does God hate the sabbath (Isaiah 1:13) and chose to take it away? Why does Scripture call the sabbath a shadow that leads us to a permanent rest you don't want? The "love" you scribble about is not godly love.

You know, if my wife love roses and I want to express my love for her I will buy her roses. Now if God loves when His people remember the Sabbath I'm going to remember the Sabbath.

Look at the "if" you wrote, and then reconcile that with the shadow you affirm in deference to the reality of God's rest that replaced it.

Remember the second commandment regarding images. God says whoever violates the commandments makes known they hate God but whever keeps His commandments makes known they love Him.

Why have you spurned the commandment of God provided through Paul in Galatians 4:30?

Exodus 20:4-6 "You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

It is those who grovel to the created law that ignore the redemption found only in the law's Creator, "who changed the truth of God into the lie, and worshiped and served the created thing more than the Creator, who is blessed forever" (Romans 1:25 LIT).

Come on now, your half baked belief system has to be crumbling by now...

Calling my belief system "half baked" is nothing more than argumentum ad hominem. I present Scripture to you, as do others in this forum who respond to the unBiblical garbage you write. Is it any wonder we aren't affected by your posts that show such ignorance of the Gospel?

 

[k4c]

Don't you realize that you admit this is a reference to the first covenant, expressed in a manner that is not binding as the law was? It isn't part of the new covenant. It doesn't even appear in a passage describing the new covenant.

Scripture affirms the old covenant was taken away, and the ten commandments are that old covenant we were delivered from, as shown in Romans 7:6-7. Nowhere have you found any passage of Scripture telling you that the ten commandments have been written into anyone's heart or mind.

Nowhere have you found any passage of Scripture telling you that the ten commandments have been written into anyone's heart or mind. This is proven in the verse previous, Hebrews 8:9, where it affirms the new covenant is not according to the covenant made at Mount Sinai.

Hardly.
You just repeat this unBiblical game of yours with no effort made to determine God's "My law" that He gave us.

You haven't proven anything - you merely contradict Moses when He applied a proper noun to the first covenant given at Mount Sinai: the ten commandments. The terms Moses conveyed to the children of Israel was compliance or die in Deuteronomy 30. The covenant itself was the content, to use your term.

Why then do you assert that you do not have God's law written into you?
You continue to fabricate evidence, and you already know that Ezekiel 36:27 refers to God's choq and mishpat - not the torah of the first covenant.

A mind unwilling to comprehend what it reads is unable to distinguish the seventh day apart from the sabbath, which is called a shadow replaced by the reality found in Christ.

Where, exactly? Read it again:
Your delight in the law ordained in the first covenant does not bring you any closer to compliance with it, nor did it Paul, who wrote "I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain" in Galatians 2:21. You are not following Jesus Christ.

Please explain where any error is made. You affirm you follow Moses, and not Jesus by belonging to the first covenant.

Why do you contradict Scripture?

Why do you fabricate evidence with nothing to support it?

Why does God hate the sabbath (Isaiah 1:13) and chose to take it away? Why does Scripture call the sabbath a shadow that leads us to a permanent rest you don't want? The "love" you scribble about is not godly love.

Look at the "if" you wrote, and then reconcile that with the shadow you affirm in deference to the reality of God's rest that replaced it.

Why have you spurned the commandment of God provided through Paul in Galatians 4:30?

It is those who grovel to the created law that ignore the redemption found only in the law's Creator, "who changed the truth of God into the lie, and worshiped and served the created thing more than the Creator, who is blessed forever" (Romans 1:25 LIT).

Calling my belief system "half baked" is nothing more than argumentum ad hominem. I present Scripture to you, as do others in this forum who respond to the unBiblical garbage you write. Is it any wonder we aren't affected by your posts that show such ignorance of the Gospel?

You have not yet come to terms with all the verses that say, though we are not under the Law we are not to break the Law. Until you reconcile these many verses with your half gospel message it will continue to be a half gospel message.

I think I see a head slapper coming...

 

[VictorC]

You have not yet come to terms with all the verses that say, though we are not under the Law we are not to break the Law.

That's probably because there are no such verses, k4c.