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He gives the same powers the keys represent to all the disciples present in Matthew 18:18.Excuse me, Sir, but the burden is not on myself. Scripture says that Jesus gave the keys to Peter. It is your burden to demonstrate that he gave them to anyone else.
I know with all certainty that Scripture does not record Christ giving anyone else the keys in person, or otherwise. It is up to you to shatter my belief.
But common sense says that it wasn't Peter "alone"If God saw fit to give the keys to Peter alone, who are you to question his will?
Scripture does not say that we all have the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Scripture only displays Christ giving the keys to Peter, and no other.
Your so-called 'common sense' doesn't matter, what matters is the Word of God. Does the Word of God say anywhere that Jesus gave them to anyone but Peter?But common sense says that it wasn't Peter "alone"
And even Scripture doesn't say "alone"
Or did God give me a "locked up" Kingdom?
No.
Does the Word of God state that the keys are equivalent to those privileges, or are you reading that into the text?He gives the same powers the keys represent to all the disciples present in Matthew 18:18.
Why do you accuse me of 'dancing around' when you're the one suggesting that Jesus gave them to anyone else? I don't see anywhere in the bible that He did, so if you are going to claim that is the case you better make sure that the Word of God actually says that.Dance all you wish, if you can't prove your point, why make the statement?
Good question! Inquiring minds want to knowYour so-called 'common sense' doesn't matter, what matters is the Word of God. Does the Word of God say anywhere that Jesus gave them to anyone but Peter?
Do you have the slightest biblical foundation to support the notion that the keys were given to anyone other than Peter?The reality is that some denominations have spun a load of theological beliefs about these keys without the slightest biblical foundation to support these beliefs.
Jesus gave the keys to the kingdom of heaven to Peter.
Your so-called 'common sense' doesn't matter, what matters is the Word of God. Does the Word of God say anywhere that Jesus gave them to anyone but Peter?
And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.Sorry but Jesus was speaking to the Church. Otherwise that would have never been recorded in Scripture.
Do you have the slightest biblical foundation to support the notion that the keys were given to anyone other than Peter?
Why are you asking this 'basic stuff' instead of showing where Jesus addresses anyone but Peter to give the keys? Go ahead, show us where that happens. You've got the Scriptures at your fingertips.Does the Word of G-d say anywhere that God's gift is a locked-up Kingdom? Or does Scripture reveal we have access to the throne?
This is really basic stuff here.
Now if we can just get the unbelieving Jews of today to understand thatWhy are you asking this 'basic stuff' instead of showing where Jesus addresses anyone but Peter to give the keys? Go ahead, show us where that happens. You've got the Scriptures at your fingertips.
If it's so basic, show me where it happens.
It certainly was. That's why the Church mentions that very verse at Mass to strengthen the faithful.Sorry but Jesus was speaking to the Church. Otherwise that would have never been recorded in Scripture.
Does the EOC also? Just curiousIt certainly was. That's why the Church mentions that very verse at Mass to strengthen the faithful.
Why are you asking this 'basic stuff' instead of showing where Jesus addresses anyone but Peter to give the keys? Go ahead, show us where that happens. You've got the Scriptures at your fingertips.
If it's so basic, show me where it happens.
Common sense does matter.Your so-called 'common sense' doesn't matter, what matters is the Word of God.
We really don't know then do we?Does the Word of God say anywhere that Jesus gave them to anyone but Peter?
I honestly don't know. I've never been to an Orthodox Mass.Does the EOC also? Just curious
Of course not. Jesus only used the singular you in the context of both giving the Keys and Binding on earth and Heaven and it's extremely naive to assume it was for everybody else when the other Apostles were right there with him. Wishful thinking would be to believe otherwise. Something very special was going on there without a doubt that involved Peter only.
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