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I create an apple ex nihilo into the palm of your hand.
What evidence would you use to convince your friend I did this?
I don't believe you did it in the first place, so you have to think of a way to prove it to me first.
Maybe start by explaining how you think you could do it/did do it.
I have seen magicians do many tricks... I believe I have seen many such things done before. It is all done with mirrors or quick moment of the hand.
But to answer your question, I would point you to the Randi foundation, they offer $1,000,000 for something like this prove it to them under scientific conditions, and you have yourself a million dollar apple.
Call me a bit of a doubter if you like.
If you want me to describe some scientific conditions I will just ask.
Lee
If you created an apple in my hand, my word alone is useless.
If it were me, first you would have to convince me that it was not some kind of magic trick. If you were successful in convincing me then my testimony would be the evidence I would use.
My friends know me and know that I would not make up such a story and would therefore be likely to at least try to believe that it did happen.
The trouble is that his challenge requires us to assume he did it, just as he assumes that God created the universe.
He's assuming what he wants to prove, and he's trying to force us to do the same.
Actually do it, AV, or admit that your little story is a fiction just like the Bible.
What do you mean, "admit"? We know that there is no evidence. Nobody here has ever claimed anything to the contrary. There is no evidence for creation, therefore we don't believe the story, it's as simple as that. Only you in your limitless irrationality could make up a hypothetical scenario in which there is no evidence for something that really happened, then use that scenario to prove that something in the real world happened because we don't have evidence for it.So then assume it, please; so you can answer it.
No --- I'm giving you guys the chance to tell me. If you can't, then I believe you can correctly assume we can't, either.
I already have done it --- but I'm not going to do it again --- just yet.
I just want to hear a "scientists" admit those two magic words: no evidence.
What do you mean, "admit"? We know that there is no evidence.
There is no evidence for creation, therefore we don't believe the story, it's as simple as that.
Which technicality would that be?You're wrong --- and wrong scientifically too --- (but on a technicality).
Most of your fellow creationists disagree with your notion that there is no evidence for creation. They think this evidence exists, they are convinced it can be found and that we haven't found it yet only because there are powerful atheist conspiracies suppressing it.Then why do you (plural) ask for it?
You're wrong --- and wrong scientifically too --- (but on a technicality).
Then why do you (plural) ask for it?
Which technicality would that be?
Most of your fellow creationists disagree with your notion that there is no evidence for creation.
You’re hypothetical question can only be answered by a hypothetical answer..
You are missing the point. They are the ones answering the divine with the scientific, because they want the teaching of evolution in science classes suppressed/balanced with "Creation Science" (an oxymoron if there ever was one). If such was not the case, AVET, there would not be this "controversy" in the first place and this forum would not even exist.Omniscience --- but more on that later - (maybe).
Then they need to take my Apple Challenge, don't they?
Have you referred them to it; or do you just try to answer the divine with the scientific?
You are missing the point. They are the ones answering the divine with the scientific, because they want the teaching of evolution in science classes suppressed/balanced with "Creation Science" (an oxymoron if there ever was one). If such was not the case, AVET, there would not be this "controversy" in the first place and this forum would not even exist.
Okay.Omniscience --- but more on that later - (maybe).
That is for them to decide.Then they need to take my Apple Challenge, don't they?
Creationists were the ones to answer religious questions with science, with the expectedly disastrous results. No scientist here ever said that we could put the Pope's blood sample through a mass spectrometer and isolate the Holy Spirit.Have you referred them to it; or do you just try to answer the divine with the scientific?
Kudos, my friend!
I think you're about as close as I'm going to get to someone admitting there is no evidence.
(However, there is! It can be done --- but I'm not going to get into that right now, as I'm trying to get someone to admit there isn't any, so they'll quit asking us Christians for it.)
They are more likely to listen to you then us. Yet (as far as I remember) none of them have posted here. They have ignored my Nasal Ruby Challenge as well...Then simply refer them to my Apple Challenge thread.
LOL! Are you referring to my infamous Nasal Ruby Challenge? How is my Nasal Ruby Challenge any different from your Apple Challenge? If you consider my Nasal Ruby Challenge to be a joke, why don't you consider your Apple Challenge to be a joke as well??Or, as I suspect, would you guys rather laugh and make jokes?
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