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The Restitution Of All Things

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Matthew 12:40
For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

and it interests me that when Jonah described his time in the big fish he said...

Jon 2:6 I went down to the moorings of the mountains; The earth with its bars closed behind me forever;(‛ôlâm ‛ôlâm) Yet You have brought up my life from the pit, O LORD, my God.

Jonah repented inside the belly of the earth/or big fish.....and also the time he was inside the belly of the earth or big fish, was forever--which we know was only 3 days!! The time he was in there was decided by how long it took him to repent. The whole story shows us that God restores all sinners to Himself...even after they go to the belly of the earth/fish (forever/unknown length of time determined by their response to God)
Welcome aboard Dennis. What an AWESOME post.

And thanks for putting meat on the pile of bones I offered for a post. - lol
 
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thanks elder Bro, but I am also WESTOZZIE ....cant remember my password and the system wont send me anything when I try to reset passwords..so a new account I started....oooh, that sounded like Yoda

My friend: Your "elder" brother is so discombobulated I hardly know which egg my wife fried.

She is in big trouble! Knowing how hard it is to please me, she fried one egg and scrambled the other, Discombobulated one's response=

You fried the wrong egg
 
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My friend: Your "elder" brother is so discombobulated I hardly know which egg my wife fried.

She is in big trouble! Knowing how hard it is to please me, she fried one egg and scrambled the other, Discombobulated one's response=

You fried the wrong egg
My Grandma used to ask me to be a "good" egg.
I think the other kind were rotten. - lol
 
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Welcome aboard Dennis. What an AWESOME post.

And thanks for putting meat on the pile of bones I offered for a post. - lol
at least I can eat your offering without getting sick!
 
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http://www.thebeautifulheresy.com/2005/08/early-church.html 9

http://www.christianspiritualism.org/articles/PrevailingUniversalism.htm 2

The New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge, Vol XIII: Index - TOC 2

God is the Source, Guide, Goal of ta panta
 
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“This, in a nutshell, is that will: that everything handed over to me by the Father be completed - not a single detail missed - and at the wrap-up of time I have everything and everyone put together, upright and whole.”
 
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"It is in Him, and through the shedding of His blood, that we have our deliverance--the forgiveness of our offences--so abundant was God's grace, the grace which He, the possessor of all wisdom and understanding, lavished upon us, when He made known to us the secret of His will. And this is in harmony with God's merciful purpose for the government of the world when the times are ripe for it--the purpose which He has cherished in His own mind of restoring the whole creation to find its one Head in Christ; yes, things in Heaven and things on earth, to find their one Head in Him. And you..."
 
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Please welcome the Lord Iēsous

Iēsous = "Jehovah is salvation"

Jesus, the Son of God, the Saviour of mankind, God incarnate.

The Lord Iēsous IS the Saviour of all mankind: He is not a potential Saviour

"For to this we toil and strive, because we have hope on the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of believers. Command this and teach this.

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Especially = malista

Malista is NOT monon or monos.

The Lord Iēsous is the Saviour of the malista & ALL mankind
 
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The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross."

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"Things" should be in [bracket]. It is NOT in the koine: NOT!
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The Father has a complete guarantee with His handiwork (the Plan of all plans). All possible defects have been thoroughly examined & found to be defect free. In short, it is a perfect product completely ready for the creation He has made.

He prides himself in setting right each and every product He has made!
 
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The Gospel Of Relentless Love Conference

Gospel of Relentless Love Conference – Oct 4-6, 2019 in Denver, CO


Peter Hiett Interview

David Bentley Hart Interview with Peter Hiett



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"It is in Him, and through the shedding of His blood, that we have our deliverance--the forgiveness of our offences--so abundant was God's grace, the grace which He, the possessor of all wisdom and understanding, lavished upon us, when He made known to us the secret of His will. And this is in harmony with God's merciful purpose for the government of the world when the times are ripe for it--the purpose which He has cherished in His own mind of restoring the whole creation to find its one Head in Christ; yes, things in Heaven and things on earth, to find their one Head in Him. And you..."
 
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Relentless

Showing or promising no abatement of severity, intensity, strength, or pace

Unrelenting.

Stedfast=

Bebaios=

Unalterable.

Firm unto the end.

The stedfast love of the Lord NEVER ceases, it is new every morning, great is His faithfulness
 
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Wow. That's a really great interview. Thanks.

He seemed to indicate that Universalism is an accepted in Eastern Orthodoxy. Is that your understanding? Or perhaps I misunderstood him?

This seems to make sense since Damnationism has its roots in Roman (western) Catholicism.

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I'll have to say. I didn't buy what the guy in the interview was saying about the Bible not being an accurate history book. How can he deny so much historical detail? Maybe I misunderstood him.
 
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Wow. That's a really great interview. Thanks.

He seemed to indicate that Universalism is an accepted in Eastern Orthodoxy. Is that your understanding? Or perhaps I misunderstood him?

This seems to make sense since Damnationism has its roots in Roman (western) Catholicism.

Dear Steve: The roots of each goes back to the earliest first 500 years of Christianity. The extent that the Restitution is "an accepted" E.O. position today would seem to me to be remote.

The Beautiful Heresy- Christian Universalism: The Early Church
 
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"To say that sin, assuming it to be opposed to God, has the power of creating a world antagonistic to God as everlasting as He is, attributes to it a power equal at least to His; since according to this view, souls whom God willed to be saved, and for whom Christ died, are held in bondage under the power of sin for ever; and all this in opposition to the Word of God, which says that God’s Son was “manifested that He might destroy the works of the devil…” -Andrew Jukes (The Restitution of all Things)

“To go on punishing for ever, simply for punishment’s sake, shocks every sentiment of justice. And the case is so much worse when the punishment is really the prolongation of evil, when it is but making evil endless.” -Thomas Allin, Christ Triumphant-

"The almighty maker of souls has various methods of restoring them to the divine image; it is impossible his power can fail; it is impossible for his image to be entirely obliterated; it is impossible that misery, sin, and discord can be eternal! –Alison R. Cockburn-

God’s Utter Extravagance=

But God rich in mercy...
 
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“To go on punishing for ever, simply for punishment’s sake, shocks every sentiment of justice. And the case is so much worse when the punishment is really the prolongation of evil, when it is but making evil endless.” -Thomas Allin, Christ Triumphant-
That's a good quote.
The Damnationists make the advent of Christ to be BAD will toward men. Hell on earth and in the afterlife. Forever and ever... (whatever that means) How long is forever? Is forever and ever longer? ???

Luke 2:13-15 KJV
And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,
14 Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.
15 And it came to pass, as the angels were gone away from them into heaven, the shepherds said one to another, Let us now go even unto Bethlehem, and see this thing which is come to pass, which the Lord hath made known unto us.
 
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Where did Christ go and what was the outcome?

He sent forth His word and healed them; He rescued them from the Pit. (Ps 107:20)

For great is Your loving devotion to me; You have delivered me from the depths of Sheol. (Ps 86:13)

And the LORD spoke to the fish, and it vomited Jonah out upon the dry land. (Jon 2:10)

The sea gave up its dead, and Death and Hades gave up their dead, and each one was judged according to his deeds. (Rev 20:14)

Are we seeing a pattern emerging here? And is it's name God's Salvation, the aleph and the tav?

Harrowing of Hell - New World Encyclopedia

Messrs Fine Linen, Saint Steve and Dennis, you brothers do some inspiring work if I may say so, by the grace of God.
 
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That's a good quote.
The Damnationists make the advent of Christ to be BAD will toward men. Hell on earth and in the afterlife. Forever and ever... (whatever that means) How long is forever? Is forever and ever longer? ???

Luke 2:13-15 KJV
And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,
14 Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.
15 And it came to pass, as the angels were gone away from them into heaven, the shepherds said one to another, Let us now go even unto Bethlehem, and see this thing which is come to pass, which the Lord hath made known unto us.

Hi there Steve: The damnationists have actually taken the koine for judgement and transformed it into damnation, those wascally wabbits.

Damnable, Damnation, And Damned - Vine's Expository Dictionary of NT Words - Bible Dictionary

The creation has been "made subject to futility, NOT WILLINGLY, but by reason of Him who made it so."

Why?

The WHOLE of created life shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption..
 
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The scope of ta panta=

https://www.kingdomandglory.com/allinall/all05.pdf

By these three prepositions Paul ascribes the universe (ta panta) with all the phenomena concerning creation, redemption, providence to God as the…

Ex= The Source

Di= The Agent

Eiv= The Goal

The Koine, ta pavnte, is the strongest word for all in the Scriptures; it literally means the all.

Romans 11:36=

ta pavnte/ ta panta, “in the absolute sense of the whole of creation, the all things, the universe, and, everything in heaven and earth that is in need of uniting and redeeming.”

**It is not in the limited sense of “nearly all”, “pavnte” minus “ta”

The final preposition [eiv) reveals the ultimate goal of all that is. What has been provided in Christ is a re-turn, a re-storation, a re-newing, a re-demption, a re-concilation, a re-surrection, a re-stitution.

The prefix “re” means back again, again, anew–and all the words with this prefix speak of something that left its place and has now made its circuit and come back to the point of its beginning.

In the Christian story God descends to reascend. He comes down;… down to the very roots and sea-bed of the Nature He has created. But He goes down to come up again and bring the whole ruined world up with Him. -C.S. Lewis
 
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