The replacement

[RND]

Ever wonder why mainline Christianity can never effectively proselytize modern Jews? They don't have the sabbath, they don't respect the health laws, and they know so very little about the shadows and types of the Sanctuary and its service.

 

[Lion King]

I did! And since no one could validate that covenant other than God Himself He swore (vowed) by Himself. Notice it always refers to the covenant as the one "He" made?

What your are referring to in Jeremiah are "promises".

...But I just gave you multiple passages which confirm that the LORD made an agrement with Abraham.

Did you not read any of them?

 

[Fireinfolding]

This is where the greater thans come into play and seen more clearly...

Heb 6:13 For when God made promise to Abraham, because he could swear by no greater, he sware by himself,

John 10:29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

Heb 6:16 For men verily swear by the greater: and an oath for confirmation is to them an end of all strife.

Heb 6:17 Wherein God, willing more abundantly to shew unto the heirs of promise the immutability of his counsel, confirmed it by an oath:

Heb 6:18 That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:

Heb 6:19 Which hope we haveas an anchor of the soul, both sure and stedfast, and which entereth into that within the veil;

Heb 6:20 Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

Heb 7:21 (For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec)

Heb 7:22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.

Melchisedec his name...


Heb 7:2 ...First being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;

And of Christ...

Romans 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

And likewise...

Ephes 2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;

 

[Hentenza]

Ever wonder why mainline Christianity can never effectively proselytize modern Jews? They don't have the sabbath, they don't respect the health laws, and they know so very little about the shadows and types of the Sanctuary and its service.

Which matters absolutely zero. The commission given to the Christian is to preach the gospel and make disciples of all nations. No where are we required to proselytize Jews. The work of faith is God's not ours.

 

[visionary]

Which matters absolutely zero. The commission given to the Christian is to preach the gospel and make disciples of all nations. No where are we required to proselytize Jews. The work of faith is God's not ours.

If they speak not according to the law and prophets.. it is because they have no light in them...

 

[Hentenza]

If they speak not according to the law and prophets.. it is because they have no light in them...

And if one speaks as a slave of the law then they have no light in them since they show only that a tutor is still needed. No gospel of good news there.

 

[Lion King]

If they speak not according to the law and prophets.. it is because they have no light in them...

..but wasn't the Law and the prophets until the coming of the Messiah?

"The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it." Luke 16:16


This really doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever, Jesus Christ died to free us from the yoke of bondage (the Law), and put us under His own. Why would anyone want to go back under the Torah?

"Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.” Matthew 11:28-30


Haven't you guys heard? Different covenant, different Law.

“Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the LORD." Jeremiah 31:31-32

Some of you, have totally missed the whole point and are placing yourselves back under the Torah like Jesus Christ never died for you. Was His death in vain?

 

[Fireinfolding]

You can catch the law and the testimony in these and how they pan out between "under the law" or led by the Spirit

Purpose of the law (in its perfection)

Psalm 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.

Gal 3:24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

Isaiah 8:16 Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.

1Cr 1:6 Even as the testimony of Christ was confirmed in you:

Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

Gal 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, [even] in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.


Gal 5:6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.

Romans 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

 

[visionary]

And if one speaks as a slave of the law then they have no light in them since they show only that a tutor is still needed. No gospel of good news there.

If they speak as a child like their brother, Yeshua, because they love Him, whom they are forever grateful for the grace He has given them, and speak according to the law and testimony of His saving grace.. it is because....

 

[frankleespeaking]

Ever wonder why mainline Christianity can never effectively proselytize modern Jews? They don't have the sabbath, they don't respect the health laws, and they know so very little about the shadows and types of the Sanctuary and its service.

and here all this time I thought it was the Holy Spirit that drew men to God, and all this time it was simply legalities that held them back.....my bad!

 

[RND]

Which matters absolutely zero. The commission given to the Christian is to preach the gospel and make disciples of all nations. No where are we required to proselytize Jews. The work of faith is God's not ours.

By proselytizing Jews one makes disciples. Having these thing makes a great deal.

 

[Hentenza]

If they speak as a child like their brother, Yeshua, because they love Him, whom they are forever grateful for the grace He has given them, and speak according to the law and testimony of His saving grace.. it is because....

Then they need to speak from grace not from bondage. There is liberty in the gospel.

 

[RND]

and here all this time I thought it was the Holy Spirit that drew men to God, and all this time it was simply legalities that held them back.....my bad!

Is it not by the Holy Spirit that God's commandments are headed and obeyed? So when God says "don't eat pigs" who better to understand that commandment than someone that doesn't eat pigs?

 

[visionary]

Then they need to speak from grace not from bondage. There is liberty in the gospel.

Living in His grace is liberty from the guilt and penalty... still must live in His kingdom.. according to His Laws.. that part has not changed.. at least not the TEN which He is working on implanting in the heart.

 

[RND]

...But I just gave you multiple passages which confirm that the LORD made an agrement with Abraham.

Did you not read any of them?

Sure. And who did God swear by?

 

[Hentenza]

By proselytizing Jews one makes disciples. Having these thing makes a great deal.

God makes believers. Christians make disciples. God softens their hearts to the gospel, Christians preach the gospel. Having the law means only that one is under the law and when one is under the law then one is not under grace. I will preach the gospel of Christ not the gospel of bondage.

 

[Fireinfolding]

Then they need to speak from grace not from bondage. There is liberty in the gospel.

Heb 9:10 [Which stood] only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed [on them] until the time of reformation.

even the circumcision of Moses was "by hands"

 

[visionary]

Let us not replace the God of Mount Sinai, the great I AM, who dies for us, that we might know Him.. Let us not replace His Kingdom with something man made, even if it has a long tradition.. but no "thus saith the Lord" especially the Lord of the Sabbath.,

 

[RND]

Then they need to speak from grace not from bondage. There is liberty in the gospel.

It's always been about grace. Adam and Eve experienced it, Noah, et al.

 

[visionary]

Heb 9:10 [Which stood] only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed [on them] until the time of reformation.

even the circumcision of Moses was "by hands"

Not found in the TEN