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I beg your pardon?It's just a pity you don't stand by your motto, you are like Christians who don't act like Christ.
Yes.Who said " I like your Christ but not your Christians"? was it Gandhi?
1 John 2:22 He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
Hitler's friend, Gandhi.
No -- I don't snoop in other people's mail.You...have actually read the letter where Gandhi refers to Adolf Hitler as his dear friend, right?
I beg your pardon?
Yes.
Hitler's friend, Gandhi.
You...have actually read the letter where Gandhi refers to Adolf Hitler as his dear friend, right?
Told me what was true?No they [perhaps his pastor] told him to believe it was true so he does.
You...have actually read the letter where Gandhi refers to Adolf Hitler as his dear friend, right?
Apparently requires, since he "could not" drive out the hill people with their chariots of iron, and Jesus "could do no mighty works" in his home town. If it was demands instead of requires, the text would read "would not drive" and "would not do".
You are scraping the very bottom now AV, why not just say you believe it all no matter what and move on?
Defend, defend, defend that's all Christians ever do because they are trying there best to believe a myth.
And this faith, is it a gift of God, or is it of ourselves, so that every man can boast, contrary to Ephesians 2:8-9 ?
If it is a gift of God, why didn't he give it to the Israelites in the book of Judges and the folks in Nazareth in the book of Mark?
God gives faith to everyone--it is, however, up to them to exercise it!
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(Deu 32:20) And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith.
And this faith, is it a gift of God, or is it of ourselves, so that every man can boast, contrary to Ephesians 2:8-9 ?
If it is a gift of God, why didn't he give it to the Israelites in the book of Judges and the folks in Nazareth in the book of Mark?
Yup! Yup! Yup!We defend defend defend because we are challenged challenged challenged.
The theology around the personage of Jesus derives from elements of the Judaism of the era, including the personhood of the Memra (Word) of the Lord in the Aramaic Targums and the "two powers in heaven" theology of a binitarian YHWH. Such beliefs were widespread and orthodox in 2nd temple Judaism, and then declared heretical in the 2nd century after the rise of Christianity.
It explains why the first believers, who were all Jews, could worship Jesus while still considering themselves followers of orthodox Judaism.
This is a big and fascinating (to me) subject. If you're really interested in it I have some resources I can share.
Sure. Here's a portal that points to various sources: Two Powers in Heaven - Home. After reading the introduction, check out the bibliography.I would definitely be interested in those sources.
I would definitely be interested in those sources.
Sure. Here's a portal that points to various sources: Two Powers in Heaven - Home. After reading the introduction, check out the bibliography.
The granddaddy is Dr. Alan Segal's book Two Powers in Heaven: Early Rabbinic Reports about Christianity and Gnosticism.
The Pentateuchal Targumim can be found at Pentateuchal Targumim | NTCS IOTS. I suggest browsing through Targum Pseudo-Jonathan beginning with Genesis, looking for the phrase "word of the Lord" in the text. If you're familiar with the scriptures you'll notice that "the word of the Lord" replaces "the Lord" in key places. For example, it's "the word of the Lord" who created man, who closed the ark's hatch behind Noah, and who makes agreements with men. Then, remember that the NT calls Jesus "the Word of God", and says of him "the Word became flesh and lived among us, full of grace and truth". This is why Jesus' followers could worship him yet still consider themselves Jewish: They believed Jesus was the Word of the Lord as described in their Aramaic Bibles, appearing among them in their time. And any appearance of the Word of the Lord was an appearance of the Lord himself.
I've started reading it and it looks very promising. Thanks for posting it.This is another view on Two Powers In Heaven also...
http://www.friendsofsabbath.org/Further_Research/Godhead/Two%20Powers%20in%20Heaven.pdf
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