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THE QUESTION IS HOW IS ISRAEL SAVED ??

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So if all we need for atonement is for God to kill and animal and for us to wear the skin, why did Jesus die on the cross?
 
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So if all we need for atonement is for God to kill and animal and for us to wear the skin, why did Jesus die on the cross?
And you have sense of humor and read Lev 17:11 !

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And you have sense of humor and read Lev 17:11 !

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Heb 10:4 says" its impossible for the the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins"
So which is it, if the blood of animals can be an atonement for sin, why did Jesus have to die on the cross?
why did Jesus say in John 14:6 " I am the way the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father except through me"
If you look up the Hebrew word used for atonement its kaphar, which has its first meaning as to cover. So all it did was cover over their sin it did not make them reconciled to God, that's what Jesus did on the cross, 2 Cor 5:19 In Christ God was reconciling the cosmos to himself.
 
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And I do believe Heb 10:4 and THAT is why the Old Covenant had to be set aside and Eze Chapters 36 and. 37 and 38

explain how Israel will rise again and be Born Again !!

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That question is answered in Ro 11:16-23.
Yes, Romans 11 and even chapters nine and ten are profoundly encouraging messages. The Holy Spirit is being poured out on all flesh and soon everybody will know Jesus from the least to the greatest.
 
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Yes, Romans 11 and even chapters nine and ten are profoundly encouraging messages. The Holy Spirit is being poured out on all flesh and soon everybody will know Jesus from the least to the greatest.
Not according to Jesus (Jn 3:18).
 
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Not according to Jesus (Jn 3:18).
My belief is that the world of two or three centuries from now will be vastly different than is the case at this time where the majority of us are deceived. I do believe that the gospel being preached in all nations sets the stage for a massive shift. Soon Satan will be bound and unable to deceive the nations for a thousand years.
 
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And it would help if you would give verses for your OP. ?
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And it would help if you would give verses for your OP. ?
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Here is the verses in Isaiah that were amazingly well explained by near death experiencer and former Atheist Howard Storm in his book "My Descent Into Death."
In Daniel 12 it says that in the Latter days many will run to and fro and knowledge will be increased. In Jeremiah 23:20 it says that in the latter days we will consider the wrath of God perfectly.

I believe that the words of the prophets are finally being explained with a clarity that was impossible fifty years ago.

Isaiah 11
 
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Yes, Romans 11 and even chapters nine and ten are profoundly encouraging messages. The Holy Spirit is being poured out on all flesh and soon everybody will know Jesus from the least to the greatest.
And does Joel 2:28 , poured all flesh mean Israel. ? as we have been. given the SPIRIT in 1 Cor 12:13 !!

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And does Joel 2:28 , poured all flesh mean Israel. ? as we have been. given the SPIRIT in 1 Cor 12:13 !!

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Yes but also all Gentiles will have the option to be grafted into "Israel" through Messiah Yeshua - Jesus who I believe will soon be accepted by a high percentage of Jews as "Moshiach ben David - Messiah the Passover Lamb."
 
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Yes, Romans 11 and even chapters nine and ten are profoundly encouraging messages. The Holy Spirit is being poured out on all flesh and soon everybody will know Jesus from the least to the greatest.
And what does Rom 11:8 with your thoughts. ?

Is it speaking to Israel ?

Or is speaking to the Body of Christ ?

Or is it speaking to the Gentiles ?

Or speaking to the GREEKS

Or may the Scyhian

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And what does Rom 11:8 with your thoughts. ?

Is it speaking to Israel ?

Or is speaking to the Body of Christ ?

Or is it speaking to the Gentiles ?

Or speaking to the GREEKS

Or may the Scyhian

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I believe that there are periods of time in which Jesus will take that stupor off of the majority of us and when that happens huge numbers of people will repent. A time is coming when the dragon will be bound for one thousand years and will not be able to deceive the majority of humans as has been the case in the past and even until now.
 
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Yes, Romans 11 and even chapters nine and ten are profoundly encouraging messages. The Holy Spirit is being poured out on all flesh and soon everybody will know Jesus from the least to the greatest.
And best to check what you wrote above in. Joel 2:28 happened in. Acts 2:14-38 , and it is all about Israel , Acts 2:36

and NOT about the Body of Christ , PERIOD !!

dan p
 
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