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Where are these apostles?I do believe that there are apostles today. The word apostle means "one who is sent out." Some Christians see those sent out to plant churches as apostles. Other Christians see the gift differently.
That doesn't mean that present-day apostles have been anointed to write the Bible. They clearly are not anointed for that task, which was completed in the first century or so.
You are very mistaken here, not all christians are filled with the Holy spirit, you need to seek this most of the time,
Paul, he was already a believer but that person prayed for him and he received the Holy spirit, others already believers, were asked 'Did you received the Holy spirit?' and they responded with 'we not even heard of the Holy spirit'. They prayed and they received it, already believers... NO not all christians are filled with the Holy spirit.
Where are these apostles?
God doesn't need to send apostles now because His Word is the apostle. Faith comes by hearing says the scriptures. It doesn't say faith comes by seeing miracles.I don't know any personally, so I can't tell you where any of them are. In the past I've known Christians sent out to plant churches. I would imagine their all over the world--wherever the Holy Spirit has sent them.
Wrong, we can hear his voice, don't put limits to what God can do, it is not 'your feelings' is his spiritual voice, this has happened to me, i was guided by him and corrected by him in some instances.
I wasn't talking about being 'filled' with the Spirit, I was talking about being 'baptized in the Spirit".
I wasn't talking about initially receiving the Holy Spirit either. But as you mention it, the disciples in Acts 19 were not Christians, they were disciples of John the Baptist.
God doesn't need to send apostles now because His Word is the apostle. Faith comes by hearing says the scriptures. It doesn't say faith comes by seeing miracles.
It's dangerous to assume that something in the Bible is figurative when it's not.
What does it mean that I hear anyone's voice when they are talking to me? Are you saying that a mere human can talk to me, but God can't or won't even though He said otherwise in the Scriptures?
Some Christians are willing to say that the devil can speak to us (i.e. put thoughts in our heads), but they say that the HOLY Spirit can't.
You haven't told us what 'his voice" is. Is it his literal voice speaking to you in English?
You haven't told us what 'his voice" is. Is it his literal voice speaking to you in English?
WHAT??? It says NOTHING of the sort!Was my answer about hearing God's voice not enough for you? Why do you have a problem with God making His "voice" heard by those of us who have a relationship with Him?
Then what do you call Christians sent out to plant churches?Yes i do. That doesn't require an apostle though.
I do believe that there are apostles today. The word apostle means "one who is sent out." Some Christians see those sent out to plant churches as apostles. Other Christians see the gift differently.
That doesn't mean that present-day apostles have been anointed to write the Bible. They clearly are not anointed for that task, which was completed in the first century or so.
I see evangelist as ones who preach the gospel specifically. I'm sure there's some overlap in the gifts, though. I mean, teachers and those with the gift of giving can also preach the gospel and should....Evangelists.
Your definition of apostle is clearly too narrow. LOL, "common, everyday church planters." The apostles who were anointed to "write the Bible" were NOT the only apostles spoken of in the New Testament. I believe this was already explained to you.But we don't call them 'apostles', we call them 'church planters'.
When the word "apostles" appears in scripture it is not referring to common everyday church planters as we have today, it is referring to the dozen or so miracle working, scripture writing, divinely appointed, 1st century Apostles of Christ.
Right, so the gift of apostleship as seen in the 1st century apostles, has ceased.
Baptized in the Holy spirit and being filled is the same... unless you are talking about something else.
Was my answer about hearing God's voice not enough for you? Why do you have a problem with God making His "voice" heard by those of us who have a relationship with Him?
Please, explain what you mean by a figurative voice.No it wasn't. You seem very obscure to me. You haven't told us what you mean by 'his voice'. Is it his literal voice? Thoughts in your head? or what? Please tell us plainly.
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