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The Problem with AI is people

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As a USA Today piece recently observed, on its own at least, AI clearly is still working out some kinks. But, of course, AI is not on its own, so at least for now, the real threat remains fallen humans using AI to spread falsehood, gain power, hurt others, and try to become superhuman.

Examples of this also abound. Writing in The Wall Street Journal, Jack Brewster recently described “How I Built an AI-Powered, Self-Running Propaganda Machine for $105.” It took him just two days to launch his so-called “pink slime” news site capable of generating and publishing thousands of false stories every day using AI, which could self-fund with ads.

The whole process required, as he put it, “no expertise whatsoever,” and could be tailored to suit whatever political bias or candidate he chose. Readers would have no clear way of distinguishing the auto-generated fake news from real journalism, or of knowing that Buckeye State Press, the name Brewster assigned his phony website, was only a computer making things up according to his political specifications. Even worse, the one human that Brewster spoke with in the process of setting up the site was a web designer in Pakistan who claimed to have already built over 500 similar sites (and likely not for reporters interested in exposing this problem). The news and information rating service NewsGuard has identified over a thousand such “pink slime” news sites so far and claims that many are “secretly funded and run by political operatives.”

Questions like, “What is the truth?” and “Who is actually telling it?” will become more important than ever as AI technology takes off and is used by unscrupulous people to flood the internet, newsfeeds, and airwaves with misinformation. Christians will need a great deal more discernment than we currently cultivate, and a hesitancy to believe everything we see, especially when it reinforces our biases and assumptions.

More importantly, we’ll need to carefully weigh out which tasks and activities are irrevocably human and shouldn’t be outsourced to machine learning. This question is already urgent. The Associated Press reported last year on an AI avatar that “preached” a “sermon” to a gathering of German liberal protestants. Recently, a major Catholic apologetics website announced an “interactive AI” chatbot named “Father Justin,” who supposedly provides “a new and appealing way for searchers to begin or continue their journey of faith.” It didn’t take long for “Father Justin” to be “demoted.” If it needs to be said, following spiritual advice from AI is a terrible idea.

In his book 2084: Artificial Intelligence and the Future of Humanity, Dr. John Lennox argued that it’s not alarmist to note how some of the main AI pioneers openly espouse transhumanism. At the heart of this worldview is a very old lie, first whispered by a snake in a Garden, that humans “shall be like God.” We can acknowledge that without denying the legitimate, helpful, and humane uses of AI.
 

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As a USA Today piece recently observed, on its own at least, AI clearly is still working out some kinks. But, of course, AI is not on its own, so at least for now, the real threat remains fallen humans using AI to spread falsehood, gain power, hurt others, and try to become superhuman.

Examples of this also abound. Writing in The Wall Street Journal, Jack Brewster recently described “How I Built an AI-Powered, Self-Running Propaganda Machine for $105.” It took him just two days to launch his so-called “pink slime” news site capable of generating and publishing thousands of false stories every day using AI, which could self-fund with ads.

The whole process required, as he put it, “no expertise whatsoever,” and could be tailored to suit whatever political bias or candidate he chose. Readers would have no clear way of distinguishing the auto-generated fake news from real journalism, or of knowing that Buckeye State Press, the name Brewster assigned his phony website, was only a computer making things up according to his political specifications. Even worse, the one human that Brewster spoke with in the process of setting up the site was a web designer in Pakistan who claimed to have already built over 500 similar sites (and likely not for reporters interested in exposing this problem). The news and information rating service NewsGuard has identified over a thousand such “pink slime” news sites so far and claims that many are “secretly funded and run by political operatives.”

Questions like, “What is the truth?” and “Who is actually telling it?” will become more important than ever as AI technology takes off and is used by unscrupulous people to flood the internet, newsfeeds, and airwaves with misinformation. Christians will need a great deal more discernment than we currently cultivate, and a hesitancy to believe everything we see, especially when it reinforces our biases and assumptions.

More importantly, we’ll need to carefully weigh out which tasks and activities are irrevocably human and shouldn’t be outsourced to machine learning. This question is already urgent. The Associated Press reported last year on an AI avatar that “preached” a “sermon” to a gathering of German liberal protestants. Recently, a major Catholic apologetics website announced an “interactive AI” chatbot named “Father Justin,” who supposedly provides “a new and appealing way for searchers to begin or continue their journey of faith.” It didn’t take long for “Father Justin” to be “demoted.” If it needs to be said, following spiritual advice from AI is a terrible idea.

In his book 2084: Artificial Intelligence and the Future of Humanity, Dr. John Lennox argued that it’s not alarmist to note how some of the main AI pioneers openly espouse transhumanism. At the heart of this worldview is a very old lie, first whispered by a snake in a Garden, that humans “shall be like God.” We can acknowledge that without denying the legitimate, helpful, and humane uses of AI.
Agreed. The issue with AI is the training data, which can easily be influenced by people.

Even IBM, a large computer company, talks about the risks of AI bias: What Is AI Bias? | IBM
And a German news company has covered this as well: Generative AI is the ultimate disinformation amplifier | DW | 26.03.2024

Luckily, I double check the info that the locally installed, private AI on my laptop says. I use AI, which is a double-edged sword (can be a blessing), which can analyze Bible verses. About 3/4 of one Bible analysis is done by the AI, while the life anecdotes are done by myself. Honestly, without AI, it would have been much more difficult to dive into the Bible. Now, in 2024, the AI has helped me connect the Bible to real-world things in life.

Titus study, when the AI was prompted to use a Star Wars analogy. Had to slightly edit it, as the AI did not know about the Galactic Concordance.
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And the AI analyzing Titus. :)
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As a USA Today piece recently observed, on its own at least, AI clearly is still working out some kinks. But, of course, AI is not on its own, so at least for now, the real threat remains fallen humans using AI to spread falsehood, gain power, hurt others, and try to become superhuman.

Examples of this also abound. Writing in The Wall Street Journal, Jack Brewster recently described “How I Built an AI-Powered, Self-Running Propaganda Machine for $105.” It took him just two days to launch his so-called “pink slime” news site capable of generating and publishing thousands of false stories every day using AI, which could self-fund with ads.

The whole process required, as he put it, “no expertise whatsoever,” and could be tailored to suit whatever political bias or candidate he chose. Readers would have no clear way of distinguishing the auto-generated fake news from real journalism, or of knowing that Buckeye State Press, the name Brewster assigned his phony website, was only a computer making things up according to his political specifications. Even worse, the one human that Brewster spoke with in the process of setting up the site was a web designer in Pakistan who claimed to have already built over 500 similar sites (and likely not for reporters interested in exposing this problem). The news and information rating service NewsGuard has identified over a thousand such “pink slime” news sites so far and claims that many are “secretly funded and run by political operatives.”

Questions like, “What is the truth?” and “Who is actually telling it?” will become more important than ever as AI technology takes off and is used by unscrupulous people to flood the internet, newsfeeds, and airwaves with misinformation. Christians will need a great deal more discernment than we currently cultivate, and a hesitancy to believe everything we see, especially when it reinforces our biases and assumptions.

More importantly, we’ll need to carefully weigh out which tasks and activities are irrevocably human and shouldn’t be outsourced to machine learning. This question is already urgent. The Associated Press reported last year on an AI avatar that “preached” a “sermon” to a gathering of German liberal protestants. Recently, a major Catholic apologetics website announced an “interactive AI” chatbot named “Father Justin,” who supposedly provides “a new and appealing way for searchers to begin or continue their journey of faith.” It didn’t take long for “Father Justin” to be “demoted.” If it needs to be said, following spiritual advice from AI is a terrible idea.

In his book 2084: Artificial Intelligence and the Future of Humanity, Dr. John Lennox argued that it’s not alarmist to note how some of the main AI pioneers openly espouse transhumanism. At the heart of this worldview is a very old lie, first whispered by a snake in a Garden, that humans “shall be like God.” We can acknowledge that without denying the legitimate, helpful, and humane uses of AI.
Okay, (lemme make sure we’re all on “the same page”) “alternative facts” are bad now?
 
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As a USA Today piece recently observed, on its own at least, AI clearly is still working out some kinks. But, of course, AI is not on its own, so at least for now, the real threat remains fallen humans using AI to spread falsehood, gain power, hurt others, and try to become superhuman.

Examples of this also abound. Writing in The Wall Street Journal, Jack Brewster recently described “How I Built an AI-Powered, Self-Running Propaganda Machine for $105.” It took him just two days to launch his so-called “pink slime” news site capable of generating and publishing thousands of false stories every day using AI, which could self-fund with ads.

The whole process required, as he put it, “no expertise whatsoever,” and could be tailored to suit whatever political bias or candidate he chose. Readers would have no clear way of distinguishing the auto-generated fake news from real journalism, or of knowing that Buckeye State Press, the name Brewster assigned his phony website, was only a computer making things up according to his political specifications. Even worse, the one human that Brewster spoke with in the process of setting up the site was a web designer in Pakistan who claimed to have already built over 500 similar sites (and likely not for reporters interested in exposing this problem). The news and information rating service NewsGuard has identified over a thousand such “pink slime” news sites so far and claims that many are “secretly funded and run by political operatives.”

Questions like, “What is the truth?” and “Who is actually telling it?” will become more important than ever as AI technology takes off and is used by unscrupulous people to flood the internet, newsfeeds, and airwaves with misinformation. Christians will need a great deal more discernment than we currently cultivate, and a hesitancy to believe everything we see, especially when it reinforces our biases and assumptions.

More importantly, we’ll need to carefully weigh out which tasks and activities are irrevocably human and shouldn’t be outsourced to machine learning. This question is already urgent. The Associated Press reported last year on an AI avatar that “preached” a “sermon” to a gathering of German liberal protestants. Recently, a major Catholic apologetics website announced an “interactive AI” chatbot named “Father Justin,” who supposedly provides “a new and appealing way for searchers to begin or aicontinue their journey of faith.” It didn’t take long for “Father Justin” to be “demoted.” If it needs to be said, following spiritual advice from AI is a terrible idea.

In his book 2084: Artificial Intelligence and the Future of Humanity, Dr. John Lennox argued that it’s not alarmist to note how some of the main AI pioneers openly espouse transhumanism. At the heart of this worldview is a very old lie, first whispered by a snake in a Garden, that humans “shall be like God.” We can acknowledge that without denying the legitimate, helpful, and humane uses of AI.
AI if used properly can be a useful useful tool, but for now , I would not call it intelligent far from it. This tool can be put to good use but will it or will it enslave humanity? it is the people controlling these systems that will decide. I see it as a fantastic authoritarian controlling, tool Imagine AI used in China as a social credit system for example making decisions instead of people, or for the crazy scientists who will use it for gain of function experiments on virus or designing new weapons? I am certain it is already used for these today. We will have an exponential rate of discovery but no time to understand the potential for destruction of these discoveries.


Many many jobs will be lost to AI we can discuss again in 10 years but a massive censorship net managed easily by AI will censor all information and may prevent us to do so...this is already starting did anyone notice?

We can hope but we are in the end times and no good will come of it except for the very rich.
 
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AI if used properly can be a useful useful tool, but for now , I would not call it intelligent far from it. This tool can be put to good use but will it or will it enslave humanity? it is the people controlling these systems that will decide. I see it as a fantastic authoritarian controlling, tool Imagine AI used in China as a social credit system for example making decisions instead of people, or for the crazy scientists who will use it for gain of function experiments on virus or designing new weapons? I am certain it is already used for these today. We will have an exponential rate of discovery but no time to understand the potential for destruction of these discoveries.


Many many jobs will be lost to AI we can discuss again in 10 years but a massive censorship net managed easily by AI will censor all information and may prevent us to do so...this is already starting did anyone notice?

We can hope but we are in the end times and no good will come of it except for the very rich.
Ok. Garbage in - Garbage out. But with a huge multiplier effect. Garbage in - expanded in ways we can’t even guess - and then more garbage than we can ever pick up.

Who is going to pull the plug? Who can even pull the plug?

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As a USA Today piece recently observed, on its own at least, AI clearly is still working out some kinks. But, of course, AI is not on its own, so at least for now, the real threat remains fallen humans using AI to spread falsehood, gain power, hurt others, and try to become superhuman.

Examples of this also abound. Writing in The Wall Street Journal, Jack Brewster recently described “How I Built an AI-Powered, Self-Running Propaganda Machine for $105.” It took him just two days to launch his so-called “pink slime” news site capable of generating and publishing thousands of false stories every day using AI, which could self-fund with ads.

The whole process required, as he put it, “no expertise whatsoever,” and could be tailored to suit whatever political bias or candidate he chose. Readers would have no clear way of distinguishing the auto-generated fake news from real journalism, or of knowing that Buckeye State Press, the name Brewster assigned his phony website, was only a computer making things up according to his political specifications. Even worse, the one human that Brewster spoke with in the process of setting up the site was a web designer in Pakistan who claimed to have already built over 500 similar sites (and likely not for reporters interested in exposing this problem). The news and information rating service NewsGuard has identified over a thousand such “pink slime” news sites so far and claims that many are “secretly funded and run by political operatives.”

Questions like, “What is the truth?” and “Who is actually telling it?” will become more important than ever as AI technology takes off and is used by unscrupulous people to flood the internet, newsfeeds, and airwaves with misinformation. Christians will need a great deal more discernment than we currently cultivate, and a hesitancy to believe everything we see, especially when it reinforces our biases and assumptions.

More importantly, we’ll need to carefully weigh out which tasks and activities are irrevocably human and shouldn’t be outsourced to machine learning. This question is already urgent. The Associated Press reported last year on an AI avatar that “preached” a “sermon” to a gathering of German liberal protestants. Recently, a major Catholic apologetics website announced an “interactive AI” chatbot named “Father Justin,” who supposedly provides “a new and appealing way for searchers to begin or continue their journey of faith.” It didn’t take long for “Father Justin” to be “demoted.” If it needs to be said, following spiritual advice from AI is a terrible idea.

In his book 2084: Artificial Intelligence and the Future of Humanity, Dr. John Lennox argued that it’s not alarmist to note how some of the main AI pioneers openly espouse transhumanism. At the heart of this worldview is a very old lie, first whispered by a snake in a Garden, that humans “shall be like God.” We can acknowledge that without denying the legitimate, helpful, and humane uses of AI.
The answer is institutions dedicated to ideals of honest journalism.

This includes universities and enduring media platforms with stakes in their own long term stability, etc. And when they let us down, as they do now and then, we all need to be invested in fixing them. They are all we have, really.
 
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The answer is institutions dedicated to ideals of honest journalism.

This includes universities and enduring media platforms with stakes in their own long term stability, etc. And when they let us down, as they do now and then, we all need to be invested in fixing them. They are all we have, really.
I agree here. Have been slowly been starting to use Allsides, as it gathers data from the left, center, and right for different news headlines. It is not run by AI thankfully. Pew Research is another place that I gravitate towards. We should train AI on centrist media platforms, or on both sides.

Allsides is slowly starting to grow on me: AllSides | Balanced news via media bias ratings for an unbiased news perspective

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Christians will need a great deal more discernment than we currently cultivate, and a hesitancy to believe everything we see, especially when it reinforces our biases and assumptions.
This is prudent advice, not just for Christians, but for everyone. The issue, IMO, is that many Christians believe they have this discernment in levels surpassing the "heathens" by virtue of their religious beliefs alone, which, of course, is very far from reality.
 
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The answer is institutions dedicated to ideals of honest journalism.

This includes universities and enduring media platforms with stakes in their own long term stability, etc. And when they let us down, as they do now and then, we all need to be invested in fixing them. They are all we have, really.
There are 6 mega companies who now control all the news on the planet, everything you hear or see is controlled by them.

see link of a short video;
 
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There are 6 mega companies who now control all the news on the planet, everything you hear or see is controlled by them.

see link of a short video;
It doesnt have to be the biggest. There's plenty of dedicated enduring non "mainstream" media that do terrific reporting. But the test of time really does help in knowing whos who. Otherwise, too many of us are just prey for whoever pops out of nowhere feeding whatever pushes our buttons without regard to reality.
 
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As a USA Today piece recently observed, on its own at least, AI clearly is still working out some kinks. But, of course, AI is not on its own, so at least for now, the real threat remains fallen humans using AI to spread falsehood, gain power, hurt others, and try to become superhuman.

Examples of this also abound. Writing in The Wall Street Journal, Jack Brewster recently described “How I Built an AI-Powered, Self-Running Propaganda Machine for $105.” It took him just two days to launch his so-called “pink slime” news site capable of generating and publishing thousands of false stories every day using AI, which could self-fund with ads.

The whole process required, as he put it, “no expertise whatsoever,” and could be tailored to suit whatever political bias or candidate he chose. Readers would have no clear way of distinguishing the auto-generated fake news from real journalism, or of knowing that Buckeye State Press, the name Brewster assigned his phony website, was only a computer making things up according to his political specifications. Even worse, the one human that Brewster spoke with in the process of setting up the site was a web designer in Pakistan who claimed to have already built over 500 similar sites (and likely not for reporters interested in exposing this problem). The news and information rating service NewsGuard has identified over a thousand such “pink slime” news sites so far and claims that many are “secretly funded and run by political operatives.”

Questions like, “What is the truth?” and “Who is actually telling it?” will become more important than ever as AI technology takes off and is used by unscrupulous people to flood the internet, newsfeeds, and airwaves with misinformation. Christians will need a great deal more discernment than we currently cultivate, and a hesitancy to believe everything we see, especially when it reinforces our biases and assumptions.

More importantly, we’ll need to carefully weigh out which tasks and activities are irrevocably human and shouldn’t be outsourced to machine learning. This question is already urgent. The Associated Press reported last year on an AI avatar that “preached” a “sermon” to a gathering of German liberal protestants. Recently, a major Catholic apologetics website announced an “interactive AI” chatbot named “Father Justin,” who supposedly provides “a new and appealing way for searchers to begin or continue their journey of faith.” It didn’t take long for “Father Justin” to be “demoted.” If it needs to be said, following spiritual advice from AI is a terrible idea.

In his book 2084: Artificial Intelligence and the Future of Humanity, Dr. John Lennox argued that it’s not alarmist to note how some of the main AI pioneers openly espouse transhumanism. At the heart of this worldview is a very old lie, first whispered by a snake in a Garden, that humans “shall be like God.” We can acknowledge that without denying the legitimate, helpful, and humane uses of AI.
Aside from the volume of junk that a system like this can crank out, and the low cost, this isn't anything new or innovative. Human-powered "pink slime" news sites during the 2016 election cycle were what spawned the term "fake news", which was then co-opted by Trump to apply to any news he didn't like.

You may recall stories about, for example, Pope Francis endorsing Trump or Hillary Clinton selling weapons to ISIS. Those stories were thought up and penned by troll farms and released on websites named and designed to resemble local news outlets, then spammed on social media sites like Twitter and Facebook where gullible people read them, believed them, and shared them.

 
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Two millennia worth of repetitions of “no really this time!” blunts the impact a bit.
You are right. But you have to know the road is got to end somewhere and at some time.
 
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The sun will burn out eventually.
Yeah, 5 billion years from now, long after humans wipe themselves out, or the world ends (Revelation).

 
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Yeah, 5 billion years from now, long after humans wipe themselves out, or the world ends (Revelation).

I get what you are saying but God will prevail and not let his people completely destroy his creation. This the work of the adversary Satan. God made man a promise, in the end times there will be a new earth and all evil will be forgotten we will be One with GOD.

Blessings.
 
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I get what you are saying but God will prevail and not let his people completely destroy his creation. This the work of the adversary Satan. God made man a promise, in the end times there will be a new earth and all evil will be forgotten we will be One with GOD.

Blessings.
That is true. We will get close to destroying civilization, but Satan will complete it. Luckily, God will give us a New Jerusalem.
 
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They belong to the world, we do not. We see, they are blind.
Just an observation here, but when Christians say this "us vs. them" stuff like this we just stare at you (metaphorically in this case), shake our heads and blink. Christians "belong" to this world just like every other living thing on the planet. The really frustrating part from the atheists' POV, though, is that even if you die peacefully with the belief you're going to "meet your maker" you'll never actually know you were wrong. You'll just be gone. Just like the rest of us.
 
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