The Pro Palestinian protests and news thread

[Reasonably Sane]

The Balfour Declararion only indirectly helped establish the Jewish State.

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...It meant that Britain supported what was already happening. The Jewish people were the ones who bought the land, and settled there. The English merely acknowledged the prospect of their Nationhood.

Balfour Declaration - Wikipedia

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Yup. I like to ask people, Imagine you live next to an American Indian reservation and every now and then they lob a few missiles into your town - and it's been going on for DECADES, and they've publicly said they will not rest until you are ALL wiped out. And a few weeks ago the left the reservation and massacred every civilian who's path they crossed. What would the US do about it?

 

[Reasonably Sane]

Most of the world don't believe the bible.

That is not actually true, depending on how broadly you meant it. Even one of the largest "religions" on earth, Islam, "believes the bible". Islamic view of the Bible - Wikipedia

 

[Reasonably Sane]

Super-bad in Australia right now

Melbourne has become the 'epicentre of antisemitism' in Australia

Children are being bullied in schools for being Jewish and Nazi sympathisers are using the guise of empathy toward Palestine for spreading hatred and vitriol.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Well, I did say during the draconian Australian lockdown during the pandemic that they had become the 21st century's "East Germany". So I guess I'm not really surprised.

 

[stevil]

That is not actually true, depending on how broadly you meant it. Even one of the largest "religions" on earth, Islam, "believes the bible". Islamic view of the Bible - Wikipedia

From that link
When the Quran speaks of the Gospel, Muslims believe it refers to a single volume book called "The Gospel of Jesus": supposedly an original divine revelation to Jesus Christ. Accordingly, Muslim scholars reject the Christian canonical Gospels, which they say are not the original teachings of Jesus and which they say have been corrupted over time. Some scholars have suggested that the original Gospel may be the Gospel of Barnabas.[

 

[Vanellus]

Yup. I like to ask people, Imagine you live next to an American Indian reservation and every now and then they lob a few missiles into your town - and it's been going on for DECADES, and they've publicly said they will not rest until you are ALL wiped out. And a few weeks ago the left the reservation and massacred every civilian who's path they crossed. What would the US do about it?

You missed the bit about how the US government blockades the reserve and periodically lays it waste with vastly superior force.

https://www.btselem.org/apartheid

The key tool Israel uses to implement the principle of Jewish supremacy is engineering space geographically, demographically and politically. Jews go about their lives in a single, contiguous space where they enjoy full rights and self-determination. In contrast, Palestinians live in a space that is fragmented into several units, each with a different set of rights – given or denied by Israel, but always inferior to the rights accorded to Jews.

The Israeli regime pursues this organizing principle in four major areas: land, citizenship, freedom of movement, political participation

explained in link above

https://www.btselem.org/gaza_strip

As part of the blockade, Israel prohibited travel in and out of Gaza, the import of goods into Gaza – including restrictions on food items, toys and paper – and export to Israel, the West Bank or foreign countries. According to documents exposed in October 2010 following a Freedom of Information petition filed by the Gisha organization, it emerged that Israel had employed a “deliberate reductive policy”, based on calculations of the minimal caloric intake required for Gaza residents to survive.

quoted from link above

 

[Reasonably Sane]

From that link
When the Quran speaks of the Gospel, Muslims believe it refers to a single volume book called "The Gospel of Jesus": supposedly an original divine revelation to Jesus Christ. Accordingly, Muslim scholars reject the Christian canonical Gospels, which they say are not the original teachings of Jesus and which they say have been corrupted over time. Some scholars have suggested that the original Gospel may be the Gospel of Barnabas.[

That is why I said, "depending on how broadly you mean it". When it comes to Islam and the bible it's complicated. That is why I don't buy the statement originally made. Of course, at the end of the day, Christianity is not a popularity contest. Jesus himself said the road is narrow.

Ultimately my response is to simply restate this post: The Pro Palestinian protests and news thread

 

[Reasonably Sane]

You missed the bit about how the US government blockades the reserve and periodically lays it waste with vastly superior force.

https://www.btselem.org/apartheid

Here is the comical part: Sometimes Apartheid is necessary to protect your culture from bad actors. And that is why I said, when South Africa fell to the huns, Israel would be next, and that is not a good thing. Fortunately, Israel is responding differently to the barbarians. But the articles and comments address why Israel was foolish to try to negotiate with them and "compromise" so many times in the past. It looks like they're done, though. And that is a good thing.

 

[Pommer]

And that is why I said, when South Africa fell to the huns, Israel would be next, and that is not a good thing.

The “Huns”?

 

[Reasonably Sane]

The “Huns”?

"Barbarians" works. It is probably actually a better choice of words.

 

[Pommer]

"Barbarians" works. It is probably actually a better choice of words.

South Africa‘s government underwent a transformation after its apartheid system collapsed, but there were no “barbarians“ to speak of, they simply shifted to majority-rule.

 

[Reasonably Sane]

South Africa‘s government underwent a transformation after its apartheid system collapsed, but there were no “barbarians“ to speak of, they simply shifted to majority-rule.

And what was the result of that shift? They gave control to the barbarians. Their actions expose them. That's one of the problems with pure democracy. It's three wolves and two sheep voting on what to have for lunch.

 

[Pommer]

And what was the result of that shift? They gave control to the barbarians. Their actions expose them. That's one of the problems with pure democracy. It's three wolves and two sheep voting on what to have for lunch.

I see.
Fare thee well.

 

[AlexB23]

Watch: Pro-Palestinian Protesters Breach US Military Supply Ship They Think Is Heading for Israel​

A U.S. military supply ship was blocked from leaving an Oakland, California, port on Friday by pro-Palestinian protesters who believed the ship was going to carry a cargo of military equipment to Israel.​

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Protesters locked themselves to the carrier Cape Orlando, which they said was going to bring weapons to Israel after loading up in Tacoma, Washington, according to KPIX-TV.​

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Anti-Israel protesters vandalize White House gates, try to scale fence​

New York police arrest hundreds after Israel-Hamas protest at Grand Central​

London police make arrests in violent pro-Palestinian protest​

Here is my take on this. Yes, have Palestinians been walled off by Israel? 100% so. But at the same time, Israel and the Jews have been targeted by bad actors since the beginning of the Bible (for recent events, just look at the 1930s-1940s for instance in Europe, or the synagogue attack in the US on 10/27/2018). A good solution would be to build a city for the Palestinians with adequate infrastructure, put Hamas in prison, and protect Israel at all costs. If Saudi Arabia wants to waste $500B on a vanity project such as Neom (The Line) and harm their own citizens and aboriginal population, Palestinian kids and civilians should be allowed to relocate there, to avoid Hamas. Billionaires have enough money to give Palestinians a nice city with clean water. While governments should step up to protect Israel, as it is the holy land.

In summary: Israel has been through a lot. Hamas needs to be locked up, and infrastructure in Palestine should be improved, by taxing US and Saudi oil billionaires. Once those changes happen, maybe the Israel-West Bank Barrier could be removed, even free trade could even happen between both Israel and Palestine in an optimistic future, as long as both nations respect their UN borders. My prayers for peace, and the protection of both nations from evil.

Neom: Neom: What's the green truth behind a planned eco-city in the Saudi desert?
Synagogue attack of 2018: Pittsburgh synagogue shooting - Wikipedia

 

[Always in His Presence]

HUNDREDS STORM AIRPORT IN RUSSIA IN ANTISEMITIC RIOT OVER ARRIVAL OF PLANE FROM ISRAEL​

MOSCOW -- Hundreds of people stormed into the main airport in Russia's Dagestan region and rushed onto the landing field, chanting antisemitic slogans and seeking passengers arriving on a flight from the Israeli city of Tel Aviv, Russian news agencies and social media reported.

Russian news reports said the crowd on Sunday surrounded the airliner, which belongs to Russian carrier Red Wings.

 

[Always in His Presence]

Pro-Palestinian crowds try to storm air base housing U.S. troops in Turkey​

 

[Always in His Presence]

 

[Landon Caeli]

Savage

 

[Pommer]

HUNDREDS STORM AIRPORT IN RUSSIA IN ANTISEMITIC RIOT OVER ARRIVAL OF PLANE FROM ISRAEL​

MOSCOW -- Hundreds of people stormed into the main airport in Russia's Dagestan region and rushed onto the landing field, chanting antisemitic slogans and seeking passengers arriving on a flight from the Israeli city of Tel Aviv, Russian news agencies and social media reported.

Russian news reports said the crowd on Sunday surrounded the airliner, which belongs to Russian carrier Red Wings.

You’re certainly aware that antisemitism is as old in Russia as RUSSIA has existed, right?
This is not a “new thing” for them, they didn’t suddenly “become” antisemitic.

 

[Aussie Pete]

I've seen antisemitism first hand. And the people who are into it are some of the most evil souls I've come across.

There's something special about racism against Jews specifically. Something weird.

The world is controlled by Satan. The world hates God. Be surprised that so many back Israel. Those nations that support Israel are blessed by God. If America ever deserts Israel (I don't mean demonstrators), get out as soon as you can. I'm English. Britain betrayed Israel as they pulled out of Palestine. Britain is no longer "great" and is flooded with Muslim migrants. I've lived in Australia for nearly 60 years. I would never go back to live.

 

[Aussie Pete]

That is not actually true, depending on how broadly you meant it. Even one of the largest "religions" on earth, Islam, "believes the bible". Islamic view of the Bible - Wikipedia

Muslims mostly have no idea what is in the Bible. And for sure the Qu'ran overrides the Bible if there is a disagreement. For example, Muslims say that God's covenant was with Ishmael. This directly contradicts the Bible but reveals why Muslims are so determined to rule the world.