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Context will confirm whether this is true or not.
Here's what she said:
“I was praying Eph 6:12 that we wrestle not against flesh and blood. Anything that has been conceived by demonic plans, for it to be cancelled and not prevail in your life… Let’s be clear what is really going on… this is a disingenuous attempt to use words out of context for political gain. I will just keep praying!”

Obviously, she means in the Spirit realm, nothing here about killing babies.
 
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Well, hopefully it’s been shown that the premise for the OP has fallen short. And maybe these types of threads will cease to be started in the future. A little time investing, instead of a rush to judgement, goes a long way.

It has been in no way shown as such. She said what she said. It's hypocrisy, whether she meant it metaphorically, spiritually or literally.
 
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Here's what she said:
“I was praying Eph 6:12 that we wrestle not against flesh and blood. Anything that has been conceived by demonic plans, for it to be cancelled and not prevail in your life… Let’s be clear what is really going on… this is a disingenuous attempt to use words out of context for political gain. I will just keep praying!”

Obviously, she means in the Spirit realm, nothing here about killing babies.

No, that's what she said after in an attempt at damage control. What she actually said is on video.
 
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It has been in no way shown as such. She said what she said. It's hypocrisy, whether she meant it metaphorically, spiritually or literally.
If she was taking a spiritual position, which in context she was, then your argument falls flat.

What her point was (as poorly illustrated as it was), was that Satan is birthing schemes, and she prayed that those would be killed before coming to fruition.

So it had absolutely nothing to do with the pro-life/pro-choice argument.
 
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No, that's what she said after in an attempt at damage control. What she actually said is on video.
:doh:

You’ve lost on this one. It’s time to admit it. We all make mistakes. Move on.
 
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:doh:

You’ve lost on this one. It’s time to admit it. We all make mistakes. Move on.

I would smiley your post, but I won't. You probably know why. Cheers!
 
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Since you seem to be in the know, what was the topic of her message?

Delusional nuttery punctuated with a prayer for God to kill unborn babies.

I didn't write the story or record the video. Take it up with them. I can't really express my true feelings on all of this on these boards anyway. Not even with smilies. So...
 
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Delusional nuttery punctuated with a prayer for God to kill unborn babies.

I didn't write the story or record the video. Take it up with them. I can't really express my true feelings on all of this on these boards anyway. Not even with smilies. So...
I’m asking, since you seem to know, what the point of her message was? Why did she get up there and speak? What was the topic? It would be good to know so that we can verify your claim.
 
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I’m asking, since you seem to know, what the point of her message was? Why did she get up there and speak? What was the topic? It would be good to know so that we can verify your claim.
It's like you're goading him to break forum rules when he deliberately told you why he won't explain it. Yikes.
 
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Pretty sure she's one of those prosperity preachers, so this is par for the course.

Anyone that has seen her sermons knows she's so far beyond reality that it boggles the mind she even has a following.
 
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It's like you're goading him to break forum rules when he deliberately told you why he won't explain it. Yikes.
No. He’s made his position known. He should be able to back it up.
 
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Demon babies are precious too!
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No. He’s made his position known. He should be able to back it up.
But if he does, it may go against forum rules.

Picture this. I make a claim that homosexuality is harmless and should be promoted as no less virtuous living as anyone else. You then ask me to back that up. Doing so would directly go against forum rules. You, being a mod, know these rules. Thus, you asking me to back that claim up can very easily be interpreted as goading me to break forum rules.

Apply same standard above.
 
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If she was taking a spiritual position, which in context she was, then your argument falls flat.

What her point was (as poorly illustrated as it was), was that Satan is birthing schemes, and she prayed that those would be killed before coming to fruition.

So it had absolutely nothing to do with the pro-life/pro-choice argument.

I generally try to be pretty charitable regarding judging intent vs poor wording, but I'm not convinced that her explanation is really honest. All that business about the animal kingdom and the marine kingdom was kooky as heck and makes me wonder if, at least in the moment, she meant the miscarriage stuff literally. I have no doubt that some of her flock would've taken it literally.
 
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I generally try to be pretty charitable regarding judging intent vs poor wording, but I'm not convinced that her explanation is really honest. All that business about the animal kingdom and the marine kingdom was kooky as heck and makes me wonder if, at least in the moment, she meant the miscarriage stuff literally. I have no doubt that some of her flock would've taken it literally.
I’m certainly not going to defend her kookiness. But like I said, there’s no real context. I asked, if the message was at it appears to some to be, then what was the intent of her message? That will establish context.
 
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