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The Phish Thread

ps139

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:cry: :cry: :cry:
As you can imagine I am really upset by this :(
http://www.phish.com/news/index.php?year=2004#story182
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=495&ncid=689&e=3&u=/ap/20040525/ap_en_mu/phish_breakup

Phish is the best band ever. Period. They toured for 21 years and wrote a few hundred songs, and never played the same setlist twice, or played the same song 2 nights in a row. As they grew, their songs evolved. They dabbled in every style out there and created their own. They made me pick up my guitar again after I hadn't played it for 10 years. They got me to appreciate music at a level I didn't even know existed.

Today I will be mourning.
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Well, thank God they're still touring this summer.
I had bought a ticket to their last regular show of the tour (Camden) , and yesterday I got tickets to their Vermont festival (2 days after the Camden show). So at least I can be at their last 3 performances. And if I know Phish, they will go out with a bang!!!
 
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DMBfanLongliveStrongBad! said:
yeah, this is really bad. i was just getting into them too. i'll never see them in concert. :sigh:

i hope dave doesn't get any ideas.
Me too, maybe he should stop hanging out with Trey so much!
 
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Me too, maybe he should stop hanging out with Trey so much!
yeah, i'll bet a lot of phish fans will blame this on the dave and friends tour. i've even seen alot of dmb threads like "will trey join dmb?" which is rediculous and would never happen (although it would be cool). dmb doesn't even consider butch a member, even though he goes on tour with them every year.

although i love dmb, i will say that phish is better at jamming. imo, they are the best jamband.
 
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I think Trey wants to focus more on the Trey Anastasio Band. They have a lot of horns, and all sorts of percussion - and I do not think the Phish has the instruments that Trey wants to write for. Although I think Trey will be playing a lot more with Dave. I guess he has more freedom...although Phish's tour schedules have been pretty short lately so its not as if he didnt have enough time.

I guess it is good to go out on a high note. You are right, they are the best jamband, and it is good to go out as the best jamband, rather than going up there, faking it, and playing a bad performances and then ending on a low note in 5 years. Everyone is remembered by what they most recently did. I'm sure this summers Phish tour will be rockin. With the hiatus, everyone knew that they planned to get back together, and the shows right before the hiatus were amazing...this time they KNOW that this is definitely the last shows....I am expecting an amazing tour. Phish is always unpredictable and pulls the most crazy stunts. The stunts get crazier with the situation. I cant imagine what they'll do at this years festival! I only know that the traffic will be horrendous. The little town in N. Vermont will become the most populated town in Vermont during the festival. At festivals like these, when you arriva and leave sometimes it takes 12 hours to drive a mile, there is so much traffic. I'm going to head up the day before to try to beat most of it.
 
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I found this little story in one of our Sydney newspapers:

Phish, the popular jam band that experimented with myriad musical genres and whose legions of fans made them a younger version of the Grateful Dead, are breaking up.

The announcement yesterday came as the band prepared to release a new album, Undermind, on June 15. They will still embark on a tour from June 17.
 
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That really stinks, ps. From what I've heard, they seem really good. Twenty-one years is a bloody good run, though. Few bands are good enough to last that long and still be able to go out on a good note.
 
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Here is a great article I found about Phish:

True to Form, Phish Disbands on Its Own Maverick Terms
May 27, 2004
By JON PARELES


This time Phish is really breaking up.
On Tuesday the group announced on its Web site,
www.phish.com, that it was disbanding after a final tour
this summer. The decision was made four days earlier at a
band meeting, it said.
"We all love and respect Phish and the Phish audience far
too much to stand by and allow it to drag on beyond the
point of vibrancy and health," the band's guitarist, singer
and main songwriter, Trey Anastasio, wrote online. "We
don't want to become caricatures of ourselves, or worse
yet, a nostalgia act." Its final studio album, "Undermind"
(Atlantic), is due on June 15. The tour begins on June 17
at KeySpan Park in Coney Island, Brooklyn, and concludes in
Coventry, Vt., on Aug. 14 and 15.
If it all sounds a little familiar, that is because the
four members of Phish went separate ways in 2000 for an
open-ended hiatus and reunited two years later. "This is
not like the hiatus, which was our last attempt to
revitalize ourselves," Mr. Anastasio wrote. "We're done."
Splitting up in its 21st year of existence, when Phish
could easily coast along the arena circuit for as long as
it wanted, may be the last unorthodox move in a career full
of them. Many of those moves came from the playbook of the
Grateful Dead, which figured out how to be a band of arena
troubadours, making a career on the road while selling
enough albums to satisfy a record company.
The whole Phish template - making every performance
different, allowing audiences to make and trade concert
recordings, archiving and tabulating its collective works,
letting every fan feel like an initiate rather than a
consumer, never acting like rock stars - came from the
Dead, as did a significant part of its musical approach.
Like the Dead, Phish stays light-fingered, steering free of
any style that contains bombast. The band would rather have
fans "bouncing around the room," as one concert staple put
it, then feeling aggrieved; as with the Dead, Phish's
lyricist, Tom Marshall, is not in the band. And like the
Dead, Phish encourages its fans to prize all sorts of
music, to fight the niche listening that radio stations and
recording companies promote. When band members turned to
solo projects, they embraced big-band arrangements (the
Trey Anastasio Band), folky guitar (the bassist Mike
Gordon's duets with Leo Kottke), Frank Zappa-like humor
(the drummer Jon Fishman's Pork Tornado) and Latin music
(the keyboardist Page McConnell's band Vida Blue).
In disbanding, Phish may also have been glancing at the
Grateful Dead, whose final years on the road with a failing
Jerry Garcia were far from their best. But just as likely,
Phish was exercising the persnicketyness that always
separated it from most of the jam bands on the circuit that
Phish helped establish.
Countless jam bands live for the opportunity to vamp and
sprawl, spinning long stretches of music out of the most
basic structures. Phish can stretch out a song with the
best of them, but it has been determined not to sprawl; it
always had an ear for structure. Phish comes from the
generation after the Dead. Where the Dead looked back to
blues, folk and country roots, Phish is also steeped in
latter-day styles like progressive rock. In its catalog, it
was as likely to come up with suitelike songs as with
verse-chorus-verse, and it was as fond of odd time
signatures as it was of country-rock lilts.
Phish was always a paradox. A band that lived for
improvisation, Phish always had plans: performing other
band's albums end to end at its Halloween shows and
concocting goofy stage spectacles for arenas. It kept
trying different recording strategies, from meticulously
overdubbed studio productions to its reunion album, "Round
Room," made from rehearsal tapes. And it has played nearly
every place imaginable, from the club Wetlands Preserve to
gigantic, sold-out, multiset marathon concerts in the
middle of nowhere. Phish has nothing left to prove. After
August Phish's members are likely to turn up with any
number of collaborators. That's what happens in the
recombinant universe of jam bands. What disappears is two
decades of accumulated reflexes: the subtleties of knowing
just when another member is going to start shifting keys in
a jam, or when to pause for another member's rhythmic fill.

Reflexes can become formulas, and Phish was always too
perfectionistic to want to hear that happen. There are
songs on the band's Web site from "Undermind," and they are
as varied and breezy as ever. Whether or not Phish knew
what was coming, the lyrics hint at valedictory: "Run away,
run away, run away," Mr. Anastasio sings in "A Song I Heard
the Ocean Sing," and in "The Connection," he sings, "I
change my direction/One foot follows the other, one foot
follows something new." For two decades, that was Phish's
strategy all along.
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/27/arts/music/27PHIS.html?ex=1086682160&ei=1&en=7262b7914bf06264
 
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yeah, we will probably be seeing more of the trey anastasio band, and also trey will most likely work with dave matthews again, because trey was on dave's solo album, and toured with him on the dave and friends tour.

i do think it is wise for them to end it now, while they're still good. If you think back to the most respected artists, they are the ones who tragically ended...while they were still good (nirvana, sublime). i think the reason nirvana and sublime are so well loved is they didn't wear out their welcome.

it is sad, but it's better than it ending in a stupid fight, or a suicide, or just suckiness.

btw, i just got a phish show via trading from 98 and they cover most of pink floyd's dark side of the moon album, and the show closer is a cover of smells like teen spirit.
it's pretty good.
 
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That sounds awesome man - the show you got. What date is it??

You have a good point about bands ending early and being loved. If Phish was feeling like this was the right time, then this is the right time.

I heard a Dead concert from the late 80s a few weeks ago...it was terrible! Jerry's voice was totally shot. It was a bad sounding show. The Dead are still touring, sans Jerry of course. But its just not the same. I saw them last summer and even though I've loved the Dead since I was 12, and it was my first show, I came out thinking "eh, it was alright." Just not as good as back in the heyday. As much as I respect the Dead, at least I know Phish will never get like that.
 
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