There is only one person who is personally identified in attack here, and that is me... all the other words deal with whoever is guilty of them, not named, not a personal attack...
I am wondering how many of us reading this thread are idiots?
I know that I am personally growing very tired of reading some persons continue to express their same personal objections to this thread, over and over again.
Yes, we are each entitled to our own opinions ...
but I can generally comprehend what I read, when I read it the first time.
There is talk in this thread about behaving 'condescendingly' towards others ...
but when persons keep expressing their same opposition to this thread ...
and do it over and over again ...
... well, I do wonder 'what it is' that makes them feel the need to keep interrupting and saying the same things to us, as if the rest of us here are idiots???
I am wondering how many of us reading this thread are idiots?
I know that I am personally growing very tired of reading some persons continue to express their same personal objections to this thread, over and over again.
Yes, we are each entitled to our own opinions ...
but I can generally comprehend what I read, when I read it the first time.
There is talk in this thread about behaving 'condescendingly' towards others ...
but when persons keep expressing their same opposition to this thread ...
and do it over and over again ...
... well, I do wonder 'what it is' that makes them feel the need to keep interrupting and saying the same things to us, as if the rest of us here are idiots???
I would say that none of us here are idiots. We're all adults, capable of reason, logic and independent thought.
Then might I suggest you follow murjahel's advice and stop reading them.They're not all the same objections, by the way.
I realize that murjahel desires only posts that are in complete and total agreement with everything he says, and equally albeit incorrectly perceives opposition of any kind as a personal attack on him. And I also realize that where murjahel is, there you'll also be also to defend him. But this is not murjahel's forum. It's an open thread and an open discussion where all members are free to post opposing viewpoints.
Then you should really be upset at murjahel's "out of the same mouth..." thread, in which he repeats himself verbatim on numerous topics throughout the thread.
That you chose to use the word "interrupting" vividly illustrates that you view any opposition to what murjahel is saying as an "interruption", but that's simply not true.
Besides that, the exact same thing can be said of murjahel's posts in this very thread. In the OP, the stated intent was that this thread would be used to dumb things down for people not on the same "meaty" level as him. But he's only done that roughly half a dozen times and only in the first few posts of the thread. Beyond that, it's simply been nothing short of a browbeating and rehashing of the same points over and over (and over and over) again about how people just aren't capable of handling his allegedly "meaty" topics.
Now murjahel is certainly entitled to rehash the same points over and over (and over and over) again, but those of us who find it disturbingly condescending and rude are entitled to express that as well.
But what I am no longer willing to do is to spend precious time with anyone ... even if that anyone includes you ... who remains fixed in their position, appears unteachable and unchangeable ... and yet is demanding to be heard, and at the expense of the interests of others.
Your differences in opinion justify your personal attacks?
No, brother. I'm sorry, but you've got it wrong. They do not.
Even that you keep posting here and talking about murjahel in 'third person', as if he were not here reading this stuff, too ...
Where is the kindness in that kind of behavior, brother?
Surely, I will defend murjahel ... as I may feel lead to defend ANY brother or sister in Christ that I see being personally attacked or bullied in this forum.
But what I am no longer willing to do is to spend precious time with anyone ... even if that anyone includes you ... who remains fixed in their position, appears unteachable and unchangeable ... and yet is demanding to be heard, and at the expense of the interests of others.
Now murjahel is certainly entitled to rehash the same points over and over (and over and over) again, but those of us who find it disturbingly condescending and rude are entitled to express that as well.
I know full well why you're an adamant defender of murjahel, and I don't blame you for it. Anyone in your same position would do likewise.
And the same is true with Gideon's threads where he is continuously condenscending and rude to the church et al.
Right?
Or is there a different standard?
Hold on.
We have made it no secret in this forum that murj and I are married. So please, do not even suggest that we have.
Um, this thread has nothing to do with gideon.
For someone who continually insists that you have no problem with gideon or his message, it sure does show up in everything you post.
Where did I suggest that you've made your marriage a secret on this forum?
See, this is a prime example of what I'm talking about. You're ascribing things to me that I never said and then saying that I want to "war" (exaggerate much?) with you.
Both you and your husband should try to keep in mind that not everyone who disagrees with you and/or your approach is out to get you.
Pete, you are falsely accusing, no matter how much you may 'think' that you 'know'.
Besides that, when did you decide it was OK to start using my real name? According to your husband, it was a violation of the rules for another member to reveal his real name. Specifically he said;..."so far they have broken rules and revealed my name which no one but me is to reveal..."...yet here you are revealing my name.
You have been here for years; you have made it no secret here in this forum, what is your name. I broke no rules.
But if it will make you feel more comfortable, I will respectfully go back and delete your name from my post.
I think sometimes, that some people are too proud ... or simply too ashamed ... to admit that they still have much to learn in this walk of faith. I am not one of them ... never do I think I've 'got it all', and that there is 'no more' to be learned.
I love my life today. I am learning some lessons that are really BIG for me, but actually are some of the very small ones ... the basic ones ... not unlike pablum ... that some of us just didn't learn when we were younger in the faith.
I am so very grateful to God to be learning at my age the 'little but not-so-little' lessons that may seem very 'basic' to some ... and maybe they truly are ... but they are new revelation for me, and a sign to me that God is still working on me and growing me in faith and hope and love. And in this lifetime, I personally do not know what could be much better or more meaningful to me than that ...
Having to step back and learn the smaller but 'not less-meaningful' steps ... it does not offend me. I have come to treasure the journey ...
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