The origins of atheism

Colter · Oct 1, 2015

"There must be perfection hunger in man's heart to insure capacity for comprehending the faith paths to supreme attainment. If any man chooses to do the divine will, he shall know the way of truth. It is literally true, “Human things must be known in order to be loved, but divine things must be loved in order to be known.” But honest doubts and sincere questionings are not sin; such attitudes merely spell delay in the progressive journey toward perfection attainment. Childlike trust secures man's entrance into the kingdom of heavenly ascent, but progress is wholly dependent on the vigorous exercise of the robust and confident faith of the full-grown man." UB

DogmaHunter · Oct 1, 2015

ScottA said:
God demonstrably exist too. The world is His demon-stration.

No, the world is a demonstration of the supernatural chicken-cheese sandwich.

Ana the Ist · Oct 1, 2015

As I was saying said:
No just the truth which you can't handle so there is nothing to explain.

No, again...I love the truth. Including the truth that your post is a strawman.

quatona · Oct 1, 2015

Archaeopteryx said:
You keep talking about "godless ideals" as though that it supposed to mean something to us.

I get a good chuckle out of that term any time he uses it. I am wondering:
If a believer and a non-believer share the same ideal - is it a "godless ideal" or a "godly ideal"?

As I was saying · Oct 1, 2015

Archaeopteryx said:
Have you seen the fire-and-brimstone street preachers on Swanston Street? How relevant does their message seem?

No I haven't and it is irrelevant to the topic.

As I was saying · Oct 1, 2015

Colter said:
^^This post is an example of the evolution of the doctrines of doubt. She see's her doubt as truth. This is exactly what Lucifer exploited in those who fell under his evangelism. But Lucifer's truth was a lie, there came to be no real truth in him. But for those overcome by doubts, Lucifer's foolery offers a bizarre refuge in the deceptive "peace" brought about by the resignation from spiritual obligations. Death is it's ultimate "truth" of the life dedicated to godless ideals.

Well said Colter, well said.

As I was saying · Oct 1, 2015

Ana the Ist said:
Well assuming it's true, it's an impressive list.
Can you share the identities of some of these professors and their fields of expertise?

Yes I can but I am not going to cast pearls before swine, and that is not a swear word as it is in the Bible.

Archaeopteryx · Oct 1, 2015

As I was saying said:
No I haven't and it is irrelevant to the topic.

Your claim that only 2.1% of the population are atheists seems dubious.

Wikipedia said:
Australia is one of the least religious nations in the developed world, with religion not described as a central part in many people's lives.[87] This view is prominent among Australia's youth, who were ranked as the least religious worldwide in a 2008 survey conducted by The Christian Science Monitor.[88] In the 2011 census, the ABS categorised 4,796,800 Australians (22.3%) as having "No Religion", up from 3,706,500 (18.7%) in 2006.[1] This category includesagnosticism, atheism, Humanism, rationalism, "No Religion, nfd" (nfd=no further definition) and people who are unaffiliated with any particular religion.

As I was saying · Oct 1, 2015

Davian said:
The evidence was there in your post, where you had the opportunity to show that your convictions are on "solid ground", yet you failed to do so. I suspect you will provide further evidence, by continuing to fail to do so.

The evidence was there in your post but it is not evidence. That is a tautology if ever there was one.

As I was saying · Oct 1, 2015

Archaeopteryx said:
Your claim that only 2.1% of the population are atheists seems dubious.

Why? Just because it doesn't present you in a good light. For your information, having no religion does not mean you are an atheist. I know you would like it to mean that but it doesn't.

Archaeopteryx · Oct 1, 2015

As I was saying said:
I guess that is quite a good speculation though somewhat dismal to cover up the fact that atheism is a failed religion here.

Except that it isn't even a religion. As noted above, Australia is one of the least religious nations.

As I was saying · Oct 1, 2015

JonFromMinnesota said:
Red Herring. Answer the question.

Dismissing overwhelming evidence because it disagrees with your world view is cognitive dissonance.

Then you must have it because in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth disagrees with your world view.

asherahSamaria · Oct 1, 2015

In my country it's now up to 19% who specifically say atheist with another 10% as humanist or agnostic, and rising.

http://www.rt.com/uk/231811-uk-atheism-report-decline/

Isn't that great news

As I was saying · Oct 1, 2015

Archaeopteryx said:
Except that it isn't even a religion. As noted above, Australia is one of the least religious nations.

More delusion. In the USA the atheist organisations have applied for religious tax exemption. Only religions do that. Plus the atheists have 35 churches worldwide and counting.

TheQuietRiot · Oct 1, 2015

As I was saying said:
I guess that is quite a good speculation though somewhat dismal to cover up the fact that atheism is a failed religion here.

Atheism is not a religion.

How many times does this need to be explained to Christians?

As I was saying · Oct 1, 2015

asherahSamaria said:
In my country it's now up to 19% who specifically say atheist with another 10% as humanist or agnostic, and rising. http://www.rt.com/uk/231811-uk-atheism-report-decline/
Isn't that great news

Gosh a measly 19%. In some countries the population is almost totally Christian. That means 100%.

TheQuietRiot · Oct 1, 2015

Humans are born atheist, and then indoctrinated into religion.

As I was saying · Oct 1, 2015

TheQuietRiot said:
Atheism is not a religion. How many times does this need to be explained to Christians?

Then it is obvious that I know more about it than you do because........in the USA, the atheists have applied for a religious tax exemption. Only religions do that. And the atheists have 35 churches worldwide and counting. And the fact that you believe in nothing except me, myself and I means that you worship nothing.

As I was saying · Oct 1, 2015

TheQuietRiot said:
Humans are born atheist, and then indoctrinated into religion.

They are born with a God gene for want of a better way to explain it and the way they turn out is usually determined by their upbringing.

asherahSamaria · Oct 1, 2015

As I was saying said:
Gosh a measly 19%. In some countries the population is almost totally Christian. That means 100%.

Lol - you missed the "and rising" bit. That's the direction of travel in just about every country with a self identifying Christian majority. More good news. The days of dictatorial church bullying your way through a population have long gone - it's just the remnants left now.

You're just going to have to deal with that.

I hadn't realized that it was so high here - you have an absolutely wonderful day

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