The origins of atheism

Davian · Sep 30, 2015

Colter said:
Or, is it possible that you just do a poor job of making yourself clear as to what your motives are? Do you even know what your motives are? Perhaps a professional antagonist hired by CF to test everyone? Sometimes the devils advocate really is the devils advocate.

Was it your hope that this forum would act as an echo chamber for your beliefs?

Davian · Sep 30, 2015

Colter said:
Arrogant Atheists

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just claim the religious are imagining things.

That would be consistent with the evidence at hand.

Davian · Sep 30, 2015

Chriliman said:
God's already got you covered there.

Matthew 7:7
"Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you."

Do you send letters to Santa?

Davian · Sep 30, 2015

Chriliman said:
If you do not care to know the answers to life's deepest questions, then don't expect answers to come at all.

I am not looking for religious dogma.

Chriliman · Sep 30, 2015

bhsmte said:
What personal evidence is he denying?

Are you able to crawl inside his head and know what personal evidence he is denying?

The personal evidence clearly isn't there...yet.

Chriliman · Sep 30, 2015

Davian said:
I am not looking for religious dogma.

What are you looking for? I sure hope the answer is truth. Otherwise, why are you on a Christian forum? You know we claim to have the truth, right? So you must be here to find the truth.

bhsmte · Sep 30, 2015

Chriliman said:
What are you looking for? I sure hope the answer is truth. Otherwise, why are you on a Christian forum? You know we claim to have the truth, right? So you must be here to find the truth.

You make too many assumptions about others.

HitchSlap · Sep 30, 2015

bhsmte said:
You make too many assumptions about others.

All world views necessarily require certain assumptions about reality.

Chriliman · Sep 30, 2015

bhsmte said:
You make too many assumptions about others.

I expected the response from Damian to be "a truth that you can't demonstrate" but he leaves out a key part which is "but apparently God is capable of demonstrating the truth" and to that I would say, exactly!

Chriliman · Sep 30, 2015

HitchSlap said:
All world views necessarily require certain assumptions about reality.

True, but avoiding the assumption that reality is not real is key to remaining rational in our reasoning. Believe reality is real and never assume it's not real. If you do this, then you can safely assume reality either has a purpose or has no purpose.

Archaeopteryx · Sep 30, 2015

Chriliman said:
I never asked you to disprove God. I asked you to explain the universe in a way that makes more sense than God. What now?

You never bothered to show that "Goddidit" makes sense of anything.

HitchSlap · Sep 30, 2015

Chriliman said:
True, but avoiding the assumption that reality is not real is key to remaining rational in our reasoning. Believe reality is real and never assume it's not real. If you do this, then you can safely assume reality either has a purpose or has no purpose.

This is incoherent.

Care to take another run at it?

bhsmte · Sep 30, 2015

Chriliman said:
I expected the response from Damian to be "a truth that you can't demonstrate" but he leaves out a key part which is "but apparently God is capable of demonstrating the truth" and to that I would say, exactly!

Like I said, you make far too many assumptions about others.

Chriliman · Sep 30, 2015

HitchSlap said:
This is incoherent.

Care to take another run at it?

Not if you can't explain why it's incoherent.

You've just made a baseless assertion.

Chriliman · Sep 30, 2015

bhsmte said:
Like I said, you make far too many assumptions about others.

What's wrong with making safe assumptions based on observation of behavior?

Archaeopteryx · Sep 30, 2015

Chriliman said:
Not if you can't explain why it's incoherent.

You've just made a baseless assertion.

Irony.

Davian · Sep 30, 2015

Colter said:
While God seems obvious to me, all things considered, I don't know of any proof that Atheist wouldn't again set out to pick apart. <snip>

Exactly what one should expect, if gods are only characters in books.

Colter · Sep 30, 2015

Chriliman said:
Honest question, have you replaced the Bible with this Urantia Book?

I consider the UB more up to date in terms of what has been revealed and the authoritative organization of facts. I never did believe the Bible was written by God.

bhsmte · Sep 30, 2015

Chriliman said:
What's wrong with making safe assumptions based on observation of behavior?

The burden would be on you to show they are rational assumptions. Not only do you fail in this area, you ignore the answers people give, that go against your personal assumptions, that meet your personal religious beliefs.

KCfromNC · Sep 30, 2015

Colter said:
Fa

Faith is the proof of religious activities in the minds of the believers.

Is anyone questioning that believers believe in religious ideas?

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