What other evidence? Here's what triggered my reply:
It seems to me that you are quite clear about what the foundation is for your opinion on biology. In summary, it seems nothing more then "god says it, i believe it, that settles it"
For me, that is not an assumption. I have never seen any christian creationist present any evidence at all for their beliefs. And many have tried.
Does that mean that no evidence will be forthcoming in the future? No, off course not. But their comes a point when failure after failure after failure leads me to conclude that there is no such evidence - otherwise I would have been presented with it a long time ago.
I'm more then willing to change my mind on that, but it will have to take actual evidence to do so.
What other evidence?
And why would you accuse me of lying about it? What would I possibly have to gain from that?
How is that deceiving? I've never met a creationist that didn't get his claims and beliefs from his religious book.......
It's simply observation.
A creationist doesn't believe in Noah's flood because of evidence pointing to it... They believe it because it's in the bible. If it wasn't for the story in the bible, they would have no reason at all to believe in some global flood.
And the same goes for all Genesis tales.
And again you accuse me of lying....................
Tell me, was the adam and eve story discovered under a rock? Did a biologist conclude it? Or is it rather ONLY known through a story in a religious book?
I did no such thing.
You view everything through biblical goggles. It all starts with your bible stories. None of which you would come up with if it wasn't for the bible. You know why? Because there is no extra-biblical evidence to support it. That's why.
You made it clear in the first post I replied to, which I also quoted above here, that you start by believing the bible and subsequently ignore all evidence or science that disagrees with it. That is what you do.
Yes, that also implies that you will happily hold up anything sciency that you think you can use in support of your biblical beliefs.
But it means nothing. Precisely because you start from the answer BEFORE asking the actual question. It's like painting the bullseye around the arrow.
What extra-biblical evidence have you given in support of the biblical claims that you believe?
A quote number is fine as well.
"and"???
If you don't know what that means, then I don't know what to tell you...
I just understand the difference between rational reasoning and faith-based beliefs.
Sorry if you don't like it. But it is what it is.
/facepalm
It's in the very quote you are responding to. Did you miss the numbered points "1" and "2"?
And *I* am the one who ignores what is written, ha?
Science is a methodology. A methodology designed precisely to leave human biases and emotions at the door.
Science only concerns itself with things that can be independently tested and verified. Supernatural entities, defined explicitly as "undetectable" and "untestable" have thus no place in science. Science can't say anything (pro OR contra) about those subjects, because there is no way to assess the truth or falsehood of those things.
So yes, science is neutral when it comes to gods.
And Especially because what we as man create is not nearly as advanced as what we didn't, yet THAT occurred by accident? Or the more advanced, the better chance it occurred by accident/whatever...makes no sense at all
"I don't understand it, therefor it must be false"
Or, since I have never once seen anything made by man come about from nothing, OR for no reason at all, OR, in a way we don't understand...in any way other than it being created, I first have to think...the universe must be created too
"I don't know this, therefor god"
"either a god or an accident"
This is also an interesting sentence:
Also, that Bible warns me not to believe what the world says
Sounds like you believe that the bible tells you to ignore actual evidence.
No, I don't, nore does anyone else.
Could you "choose" right here and now to believe that Santa is real, and really believe it?
Off course you couldn't.
No, I actually said the exact opposite: "...and I don't get to "choose" what is convincing and what not."
Please "choose" right here and now that Thor is real in such a way that you really, really believe it. Get back to me on how successfull you were.
I don't accept anything in particular as "the beginning", because we don't know how the universe began. See? I am not allergic to the words "I don't know".
In fact, I see it as the only proper answer to a question that is currently not answerable. You should try it sometime
Sorry, not much sense in fully reading this, much less bothering to reply, after what you did with a prior post of mine...waste of time. You did what I said and I somehow don't see you manning up and admitting it so denial would naturally follow, even with the facts right there in black and white.....
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