• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

The Noahide Laws

A

AbbaLove

Guest
I think Galatians could clear up for you what is being said by Paul....notice Paul says those who seek to be justified by the law... now they were justified means to be declared innocent... so it is the law cannot justify us but only what Messiah has done.
.... but when one trust the Spirit to live in and through and with them.... allowing that old life from Adam to be crucified in Messiah and trusting the Spirit to be our life.... then we become a new creation in Messiah and it becomes our nature to do those things found in the law...then will we become as he is a living Torah.

Yes! We Agree! :) Galatians 5:14 CJB
For the whole of the Torah is summed up in this one sentence: “Love your neighbor as yourself”


Leviticus 19:18 CJB
Don’t take vengeance on or bear a grudge against any of your people; rather, love your neighbor as yourself; I am Adonai.

Deuteronomy 6:5 CJB
and you are to love Adonai your God with all your heart, all your being and all your resources.

Luke 10:27 CJB
He answered, “You are to love Adonai your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength and with all your understanding; and your neighbor as yourself.”


Thus, the Renewed Covenant of the Brit Chadashah :thumbsup:

 
Upvote 0
A

AbbaLove

Guest
Never mind annier........you seem to have no interest in forthright discussion.

That is just it Rachel, You think what you think, I think what I think. You said you "think it was Talmud.....not scripture". I believe otherwise, and furthermore I believe the scriptures supports that notion.

Being on the same page and still far apart. Is it really so difficult to comprehend it's meaning?

Acts 15:6-11 CJB (THE COUNCIL AT JERUSALEM)
6 The emissaries and the elders met to look into this matter.
7 After lengthy debate, Kefa got up and said to them, “Brothers, you yourselves know that a good while back, God chose me from among you to be the one by whose mouth the Goyim should hear the message of the Good News and come to trust.
8 And God, who knows the heart, bore them witness by giving the Ruach HaKodesh to them, just as he did to us;
9 that is, he made no distinction between us and them, but cleansed their heart by trust.
10 So why are you putting God to the test now by placing a yoke on the neck of the talmidim which neither our fathers nor we have had the strength to bear?
11 No, it is through the love and kindness of the Lord Yeshua that we trust and are delivered — and it’s the same with them.”


This is not Paul speaking, but rather Peter, so they both are on the same page (agreement). Even though Peter/Kefa means what he says and says what he means his words are apparently interpreted differently according to ones Christian or Messianic Judaism understanding.

This thread (as with others) invariably brushes up against the very sensitive issue of Judaizing, which has existed from the time of Yeshua, if not before. Judaize: Follow Jewish customs or religious rites.

Christians need to accept the fact that this Messianic Judaism forum reflects the views of Judaism more than that of Christendom. What shall we then conclude ~ that certain parts of the Brit Chadashah have been misconstrued so as not to be Jewish enough? As Paul has said, "God Forbid!" But then what is Jewish that's of God and what is Jewish that's of man?

IMO, it does seem that many thread disputes revolve around whether or not:

(1) The TaNaKh is not honored as highly as it should be by most Christians.
and/or
(2) The Brit Chadashah is not revered as totally inspired of God by Messianic Judaism.

 
Upvote 0
A

annier

Guest
If you believe otherwise, why won't you quote the other scripture?
I do not need to quote any scripture Rachel. That is what you are not understanding. It is the cultural context of Judaism and what it teaches, that makes me view the scripture in that light. The same I am sure goes for you and your beliefs.
I'm really not trying to be difficult, but when you state something as fact, you should back it up.
What did I state as fact that you wish me to back up? It is a fact Judaism teaches Noachide. Therefore when I read the scripture I include that idea for context.
 
Upvote 0

daq

Messianic
Jan 26, 2012
5,116
1,144
Devarim 11:21
Visit site
✟160,615.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Messianic
Marital Status
Private
1 Peter 2:5-10 KJV
5. Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
6. Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded. [Yeshayahu 28:16]
7. Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner, [Psalm 117:22]
8. And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed. [Yeshayahu 8:14-15]
9. But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light; [Shemot-Exodus 19:5-6]
10. Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy. [Hoshea 1:10, 2:23]

Isaiah 28:16 KJV
16. Therefore thus saith the Lord God, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.

Psalm 118:22 KJV
22. The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner.

Isaiah 8:13-15 KJV
13. Sanctify the Lord of hosts himself; and let him be your fear, and let him be your dread.
14. And he shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem.
15. And many among them shall stumble, and fall, and be broken, and be snared, and be taken.

Exodus 19:5-6 KJV
5. Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
6. And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

Hosea 1:9-10 KJV
9. Then said God, Call his name Loammi: for ye are not my people, and I will not be your God.
10. Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.

Hosea 2:23 KJV

23. And I will sow her unto me in the earth; and I will have mercy upon her that had not obtained mercy; and I will say to them which were not my people, Thou art my people; and they shall say, Thou art my God.


Wow, all of that from 1 Peter 2:5-10? Is Peter also an RT heretic?
I guess according to some here Peter also wrote "only to the Jews"? ^_^
 
Upvote 0

Lulav

Y'shua is His Name
Aug 24, 2007
34,150
7,247
✟502,488.00
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Unorthodox
Marital Status
Married
I do not need to quote any scripture Rachel. That is what you are not understanding. It is the cultural context of Judaism and what it teaches, that makes me view the scripture in that light. The same I am sure goes for you and your beliefs.

What did I state as fact that you wish me to back up? It is a fact Judaism teaches Noachide. Therefore when I read the scripture I include that idea for context.


Judaism also teaches that the Messiah has not come, do you view what you read in the scripture with that little detail?;)
 
Upvote 0

ContraMundum

Messianic Jewish Christian
Site Supporter
Jul 2, 2005
15,666
2,957
Visit site
✟100,608.00
Country
Australia
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
How is it "Classic RT" to those Messianic Jews that have accepted Yeshua as their Mashiach? It almost sounds, in a round about way, that the Brit Chadashah has in it elements of RT.

True for those Orthodox Jews and Conservative Jews that haven't accepted Yeshua as their Mashiach.

Are you suggesting (postulating) that some of the writings in the Brit Chadashah are misinterpreted (Acts 15:8-11)? Some might likewise postulate that the recent Messianic Jewish Movement of the 60s & 70s has taken counteraction to the point of now reversing RT with some of their own Reversal RT. Hopefully, this rebalancing will result in a bipartisan equilibrium. :)

Does not annual the Renewed Covenant :amen:


All good points. I think the NT teaches a "grafting in", not a replacement, nor an annulment of distinctions.

Some of where I'm coming from is covered here.
 
  • Like
Reactions: YESLORDIWILL
Upvote 0

Rachel Rachel

Messianic/Church of God 7th Day
Site Supporter
Apr 21, 2013
818
198
In the middle
✟373,556.78
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Messianic
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Constitution
I do not need to quote any scripture Rachel. That is what you are not understanding. It is the cultural context of Judaism and what it teaches, that makes me view the scripture in that light. The same I am sure goes for you and your beliefs.

What did I state as fact that you wish me to back up? It is a fact Judaism teaches Noachide. Therefore when I read the scripture I include that idea for context.

You said this:

That is just it Rachel, You think what you think, I think what I think.You said you "think it was Talmud.....not scripture". I believe otherwise, and furthermore I believe the scriptures supports that notion.

I was simply asking you what scriptures support that notion. So far, the count is zero.
 
Upvote 0

Rachel Rachel

Messianic/Church of God 7th Day
Site Supporter
Apr 21, 2013
818
198
In the middle
✟373,556.78
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Messianic
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Constitution
Judaism also teaches that the Messiah has not come, do you view what you read in the scripture with that little detail?;)
Excellent question.
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0
A

AbbaLove

Guest
1 Peter 2:5-10 KJV
5. Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
6. Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded. [Yeshayahu 28:16]
7. Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner, [Psalm 117:22]
8. And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed. [Yeshayahu 8:14-15]
9. But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light; [Shemot-Exodus 19:5-6]
10. Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy. [Hoshea 1:10, 2:23]

Isaiah 28:16 KJV
16. Therefore thus saith the Lord God, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.

Psalm 118:22 KJV
22. The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner.

Isaiah 8:13-15 KJV
13. Sanctify the Lord of hosts himself; and let him be your fear, and let him be your dread.
14. And he shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem.
15. And many among them shall stumble, and fall, and be broken, and be snared, and be taken.

Exodus 19:5-6 KJV
5. Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
6. And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

Hosea 1:9-10 KJV
9. Then said God, Call his name Loammi: for ye are not my people, and I will not be your God.
10. Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.

Hosea 2:23 KJV

23. And I will sow her unto me in the earth; and I will have mercy upon her that had not obtained mercy; and I will say to them which were not my people, Thou art my people; and they shall say, Thou art my God.

Even if we had posted your scripture verses and the ones i shared from Acts 15:6-11 (Jerusalem Council) at the top of every page in this thread there would still be those that seemingly disregard the implication with respect to the Talmud's Noahide/Noachide Laws. Dogma is dogma is dogma (manmade, manmade, manmade).

The only way a bipartisan connection (Jew and Gentile) can be bridged (i.e. Jerusalem Council) is with the indwelling presence of Ruach HaKodesh. Even then our flesh and soulish nature has to brought under control. True love (ahavah) is only possible with His Presence abiding in us.

Acts 15:8 CJB
And God, who knows the heart, bore them witness by giving the Ruach HaKodesh to them, just as he did to us;

 
Upvote 0

rick357

bond-slave
Jul 23, 2014
2,337
244
✟19,638.00
Faith
Pentecostal
Marital Status
Married
Even if we had posted your scripture verses and the ones i shared from Acts 15:6-11 (Jerusalem Council) at the top of every page in this thread there would still be those that seemingly disregard the implication with respect to the Talmud's Noahide/Noachide Laws. Dogma is dogma is dogma (manmade, manmade, manmade).

The only way a bipartisan connection (Jew and Gentile) can be bridged (i.e. Jerusalem Council) is with the indwelling presence of Ruach HaKodesh. Even then our flesh and soulish nature has to brought under control. True love (ahavah) is only possible with His Presence abiding in us.

Acts 15:8 CJB
And God, who knows the heart, bore them witness by giving the Ruach HaKodesh to them, just as he did to us;

I agree...except the flesh can not be controlled...the body yes...but the self life of flesh inherant from Adam must be crucified in Messiah...You may have meant exactly that but many are confused about Pauls use of the flesh...and associate it with the Greek idea of material being corruption.
 
Upvote 0
A

AbbaLove

Guest
I agree...except the flesh can not be controlled...the body yes...but the self life of flesh inherant from Adam must be crucified in Messiah...You may have meant exactly that but many are confused about Pauls use of the flesh...and associate it with the Greek idea of material being corruption.

That's exactly the point. The point being the importance of being immersed in the baptism of Ruach HaKodesh and abiding in His Avahah (Luke 10:27)

Acts 15:8-11 CJB (Jerusalem Council)
8 And God, who knows the heart, bore them witness by giving the Ruach HaKodesh to them, just as he did to us;
9 that is, he made no distinction between us and them, but cleansed their heart by trust.
10 So why are you putting God to the test now by placing a yoke on the neck of the talmidim which neither our fathers nor we have had the strength to bear?
11 No, it is through the love and kindness of the Lord Yeshua that we trust and are delivered — and it’s the same with them.”

What do you suppose Peter and Paul would have had to say about today's Rabbinical Noahide/Noachide Laws if they were being proposed back then as "international law" in place of Christianity as it was known in the first century church.

 
Upvote 0

rick357

bond-slave
Jul 23, 2014
2,337
244
✟19,638.00
Faith
Pentecostal
Marital Status
Married
That's exactly the point. The point being the importance of being immersed in the baptism of Ruach HaKodesh and abiding in His Avahah (Luke 10:27)

Acts 15:8-11 CJB (Jerusalem Council)
8 And God, who knows the heart, bore them witness by giving the Ruach HaKodesh to them, just as he did to us;
9 that is, he made no distinction between us and them, but cleansed their heart by trust.
10 So why are you putting God to the test now by placing a yoke on the neck of the talmidim which neither our fathers nor we have had the strength to bear?
11 No, it is through the love and kindness of the Lord Yeshua that we trust and are delivered — and it’s the same with them.”

What do you suppose Peter and Paul would have had to say about today's Rabbinical Noahide/Noachide Laws if they were being proposed back then as "international law" in place of Christianity as it was known in the first century church.

If believers in the way had been the ones promoting such...then they would deal with it as those who thought Moses could justify us....if it was a differant sect of Judaism(such as rabbinic) they would have probably ignored it altogether.
 
Upvote 0

ron4shua

" ... each in our own order " , Hallelu-YAH .
Aug 3, 2014
2,599
486
Sacramento valley
Visit site
✟20,007.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
Greetings Saints , I'm wondering about the education system , if it's at fault with some folks reading & retention skills ? My thinking , those with 20/20 should invest some knee time for "scales" removal (acts 9:18) of our brothers & sisters that claim The Blood of the last flesh Sacrifice , Golgotha .

Sister Lulav asked ; Judaism also teaches that the Messiah has not come, do you view what you read in the scripture with that little detail?

Sister Rachel Rachel witnessed this "little detail" by "Excellent question."

Heb 10:10 By that desire we have been set apart through the offering of the body of יהושע Messiah once for all.
Heb 10:11 And indeed every priest stands day by day doing service, and repeatedly offering the same slaughter offerings which are never able to take away sins.
Heb 10:12 But He, having offered one slaughter offering for sins for all time, sat down at the right hand of Elohim,
Heb 10:13 waiting from that time onward until His enemies are made a footstool for His feet.
Heb 10:14 For by one offering He has perfected for all time those who are being set apart.
Heb 10:15 And the Set-apart Spirit also witnesses to us, for after having said before,
Heb 10:16 “This is the covenant that I shall make with them after those days, says יהוה, giving My laws into their hearts, and in their minds I shall write them,”1 Footnote: 1Jer. 31:33, Heb. 8:8-12. (ISR)

Maybe a honest word to our Elohim on behalf of our education system couldn't hurt any .
Jas 5:16 Confess your trespasses to one another, and pray for one another, so that you are healed. The earnest prayer of a righteous one accomplishes much.
Blessings .
 
Upvote 0

mercy1061

Newbie
Nov 26, 2011
2,646
123
✟26,224.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Messianic
Marital Status
Married
The question:

Now Joseph married the daughter of an Egyptian priest, so should Joseph's family keep Shabbat fully? Considering that Joseph married a non-Israelite, even Abraham married an Egyptian handmaid who bore him a firstborn son, shall Israel who married non-Israleites; even Canaanites; whom Abraham forbid them to marry, keep Shabbat fully?​

Abraham, Isaac and Jacob (Israel) lived before the Torah was given on Sinai. Please explain how they were bound to laws that they had not yet heard of...

The torah is confirmed through Noah, Enoch, Abel, Job.

Rom 3
31 Does it follow that we abolish Torah by this trusting? Heaven forbid! On the contrary, we confirm Torah.
 
Upvote 0

mercy1061

Newbie
Nov 26, 2011
2,646
123
✟26,224.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Messianic
Marital Status
Married
Perhaps you could list some scripture that shows Noahide law was being taught by Jews to non jews.


How could Noahide law be taught by jews to non-jews? Noah is the father of the jews, torah is confirmed/established through gentiles: Noah, Abel, Job, Enoch, Abraham (former gentile)

Moses wrote down the righteous law he learned from gentiles in a book called "torah".
 
  • Like
Reactions: visionary
Upvote 0

Rachel Rachel

Messianic/Church of God 7th Day
Site Supporter
Apr 21, 2013
818
198
In the middle
✟373,556.78
Country
United States
Gender
Female
Faith
Messianic
Marital Status
Single
Politics
US-Constitution
How could Noahide law be taught by jews to non-jews? Noah is the father of the jews, torah is confirmed/established through gentiles: Noah, Abel, Job, Enoch, Abraham (former gentile)

Moses wrote down the righteous law he learned from gentiles in a book called "torah".
Interesting.
And here is another question that occurs to me.
If YHVH never intended for Gentiles to observe the Sabbath (as WikiNoah teaches and evidently Talmud teaches) how do they explain Isaiah 56?

Isaiah 56:1

This is what the Lord says:
Preserve justice and do what is right,
for My salvation is coming soon,
and My righteousness will be revealed.
2 Happy is the man who does this,
anyone who maintains this,
who keeps the Sabbath without desecrating it,

and keeps his hand from doing any evil.


3 No foreigner who has joined himself to the Lord
should say,
“The Lord will exclude me from His people”;
and the eunuch should not say,
“Look, I am a dried-up tree.”
4 For the Lord says this:
“For the eunuchs who keep My Sabbaths,
and choose what pleases Me,
and hold firmly to My covenant,
5 I will give them, in My house and within My walls,
a memorial and a name
better than sons and daughters.
I will give each of them an everlasting name
that will never be cut off.
6 And the foreigners who join themselves to the Lord
minister to Him, love the name of Yahweh
and become His servants,
all who keep the Sabbath without desecrating it
and who hold firmly to My covenant—
7 I will bring them to My holy mountain
and let them rejoice in My house of prayer.
Their burnt offerings and sacrifices
will be acceptable on My altar,
for My house will be called a house of prayer
for all nations.”
8 This is the declaration of the Lord God,
who gathers the dispersed of Israel:
“I will gather to them still others
besides those already gathered.”

Please note that verse 2 says "happy is the man" who keeps the Sabbath - the LORD hasn't made it exclusive to the children of Abraham.

I was amazed to read this on WikiNoah:

On the eve of the Sabbath (Friday night), they might have a festive family dinner with special food and light candles after sundown in honor of the Seventh Day, which was given to Adam and Noah (and to make the Noahide celebration of the Shabbat distinct from the Jewish Shabbat observance). During the meal they may sing songs to strengthen their belief, including songs about the creation. They may read from the Torah. They should not call this day the Sabbath, but the Seventh Day as it is written in Genesis.


And this is from a Noahide website:

Q: Do you believe Yeshua (Jesus) to be a historical figure?

A:
No, not in the sense that Christians believe. Outside of the Christian's "New Testament," which is based on a few thousand fragments of script which has been compiled and manufactured into single manuscripts throughout the last century, nothing exists which proves that Yeshu[a] lived in the time period claimed by Christianity. In fact, Ramban (Rabbi Moshe ben Nachman), in his Disputation in Barcelona, clearly showed that the closest person resembling Christianity's Yeshu[a] lived approximately two hundred years prior to the time period Christianity claims!
 
  • Like
Reactions: visionary
Upvote 0

visionary

Your God is my God... Ruth said, so say I.
Site Supporter
Mar 25, 2004
56,978
8,072
✟520,211.44
Gender
Female
Faith
Messianic
Interesting.
And here is another question that occurs to me.
If YHVH never intended for Gentiles to observe the Sabbath (as WikiNoah teaches and evidently Talmud teaches) how do they explain Isaiah 56?

Isaiah 56:1

This is what the Lord says:
Preserve justice and do what is right,
for My salvation is coming soon,
and My righteousness will be revealed.
2 Happy is the man who does this,
anyone who maintains this,
who keeps the Sabbath without desecrating it,

and keeps his hand from doing any evil.


3 No foreigner who has joined himself to the Lord
should say,
“The Lord will exclude me from His people”;
and the eunuch should not say,
“Look, I am a dried-up tree.”
4 For the Lord says this:
“For the eunuchs who keep My Sabbaths,
and choose what pleases Me,
and hold firmly to My covenant,
5 I will give them, in My house and within My walls,
a memorial and a name
better than sons and daughters.
I will give each of them an everlasting name
that will never be cut off.
6 And the foreigners who join themselves to the Lord
minister to Him, love the name of Yahweh
and become His servants,
all who keep the Sabbath without desecrating it
and who hold firmly to My covenant—
7 I will bring them to My holy mountain
and let them rejoice in My house of prayer.
Their burnt offerings and sacrifices
will be acceptable on My altar,
for My house will be called a house of prayer
for all nations.”
8 This is the declaration of the Lord God,
who gathers the dispersed of Israel:
“I will gather to them still others
besides those already gathered.”

Please note that verse 2 says "happy is the man" who keeps the Sabbath - the LORD hasn't made it exclusive to the children of Abraham.

I was amazed to read this on WikiNoah:

On the eve of the Sabbath (Friday night), they might have a festive family dinner with special food and light candles after sundown in honor of the Seventh Day, which was given to Adam and Noah (and to make the Noahide celebration of the Shabbat distinct from the Jewish Shabbat observance). During the meal they may sing songs to strengthen their belief, including songs about the creation. They may read from the Torah. They should not call this day the Sabbath, but the Seventh Day as it is written in Genesis.


And this is from a Noahide website:

Q: Do you believe Yeshua (Jesus) to be a historical figure?

A:
No, not in the sense that Christians believe. Outside of the Christian's "New Testament," which is based on a few thousand fragments of script which has been compiled and manufactured into single manuscripts throughout the last century, nothing exists which proves that Yeshu[a] lived in the time period claimed by Christianity. In fact, Ramban (Rabbi Moshe ben Nachman), in his Disputation in Barcelona, clearly showed that the closest person resembling Christianity's Yeshu[a] lived approximately two hundred years prior to the time period Christianity claims!
Yep.. Yeshua was also very clear that the Sabbath was made for "man"... He didn't say the Jews... And He should know.
 
  • Like
Reactions: YESLORDIWILL
Upvote 0

ron4shua

" ... each in our own order " , Hallelu-YAH .
Aug 3, 2014
2,599
486
Sacramento valley
Visit site
✟20,007.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
Rom 14:4 Who are you that judges another’s servant? To his own master he stands or falls. But he shall be made to stand, for Elohim is able to make him stand.
Rom 14:5 One indeed judges one day above another, another judges every day alike. Let each one be completely persuaded in his own mind.
Rom 14:6 He who minds the day, minds it to יהוה. And he who does not mind the day, to יהוה he does not mind it. He who eats, eats to יהוה, for he gives Elohim thanks. And he who does not eat, to יהוה he does not eat, and gives Elohim thanks.
Rom 14:7 For not one of us lives to himself, and not one dies to himself.
Rom 14:8 For both, if we live, we live unto the Master, and if we die, we die unto the Master. Therefore, whether we live or die, we are the Master’s.

24/7 , 365 Belong to our Master , every nanosecond of Each is holy to our Elohim . The Blessed Sabbath is the presence of the Holy Spirit of The Spirit of TRUTH in you .
Tithing three time each year of our increase was rescinded the day of Pentecost . Every single widows mite we think we own is not . All elect own nothing , save eternal LIFE .

Joh 6:63 “It is the Spirit that gives life, the flesh does not profit at all. The words that I speak to you are Spirit and are life.1 Footnote: 1See v. 68, and 1 Cor. 15:45. Word and Spirit are in unity.


Jer 31:31 “See, the days are coming,” declares יהוה, “when I shall make a new covenant with the house of Yisra’ĕl and with the house of Yehuḏah1, Footnote: 1See Heb. 8:8-12, Heb. 10:16-17.
Jer 31:32 not like the covenant I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Mitsrayim, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them,” declares יהוה.
Jer 31:33 “For this is the covenant I shall make with the house of Yisra’ĕl after those days, declares יהוה: I shall put My Torah in their inward parts, and write it on their hearts. And I shall be their Elohim, and they shall be My people.
Jer 31:34 “And no longer shall they teach, each one his neighbour, and each one his brother, saying, ‘Know יהוה,’ for they shall all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them,” declares יהוה. “For I shall forgive their crookedness, and remember their sin no more.”
Jer 31:35 Thus said יהוה, who gives the sun for a light by day, and the laws of the moon and the stars for a light by night, who stirs up the sea, and its waves roar – יהוה of hosts is His Name:
Jer 31:36 “If these laws vanish from before Me,” declares יהוה, “then the seed of Yisra’ĕl shall also cease from being a nation before Me forever.”
Jer 31:37 Thus said יהוה, “If the heavens above could be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I would also cast off all the seed of Yisra’ĕl for all that they have done,” declares יהוה.
Jer 31:38 “See, the days are coming,” declares יהוה, “that the city shall be built for יהוה from the Tower of Ḥanan’ĕl to the Corner Gate.
Jer 31:39 “And the measuring line shall again extend straight ahead to the hill Garĕḇ, then it shall turn toward Goʽah.
Jer 31:40 “And all the valley of the dead bodies and of the ashes, and all the fields as far as the wadi Qiḏron, to the corner of the Horse Gate toward the east, is to be set-apart to יהוה. It shall not be plucked up or thrown down any more forever.”

Dan 2:44 “And in the days of these sovereigns the Elah of the heavens shall set up a reign which shall never be destroyed, nor the reign pass on to other people – it crushes and puts to an end all these reigns, and it shall stand forever1. Footnote: 1Dan. 7, Ps. 22:28, Jer. 30:11, Joel 3:16, Obad. 15-17, Hab. 3:12-13, Zeph. 3:8, Hag. 2:22, Rev. 11:15.
Dan 2:45 “Because you saw that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it crushed the iron, the bronze, the clay, the silver, and the gold, the great Elah has made known to the sovereign what shall be after this. And the dream is true, and its interpretation is trustworthy.” (ISR)

HalleluYAH .
 
Upvote 0