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I have a pretty thorough understanding of what the church teaches and I don't know of any statement by the Adventist denomination that says you cannot be a saved/born-again Christian, if you are a Catholic.

We don't claim all Catholics are saved or that all Adventists are saved.
And the inverse is also true. We don't claim all of them are lost either.

Adventists are Arminian in our rejection of once-saved-always-saved and our acceptance of free will. So while we believe that all are born with a sinful nature - and have a carnal nature enslaved to sin as Romans 6 and Romans 8 point out - we believe that the supernatural "drawing of all mankind" John 12:32 that God is doing - enables choice for all mankind to the extent of choosing the Gospel or rejecting it. (But of course "all" will not choose to accept the Gospel according to what Christ said in Matthew 7)

So in Revelation 3 God says "I stand at the door and knock" not "I burst down the door and then you are a Christian".

I say this because I think that Catholic teaching is similar on a few of these points.
Catholics make the best Adventist, was the saying of our pastor, and it was true. They tended to be fervent or with intense feelings on their beliefs so didnt turn from their religious path on any whim or fancy. It had to be a true conviction of the truth.
 
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