The narrow way?

Tamara224 · Jan 31, 2007

Quaffer said:
Reading through the last few posts I'm pretty confused as to how it got to the point it got.

I too do not understand the term "flesh being saved". As Dids stated we are told to "overcome" the flesh and not allow the flesh to dictate the way we walk with God. The soul is saved. The flesh will die and return to dust. It does not need saving.

The only thing I can think is maybe she means "redeemed" in terms of the resurrection... ??

Romans 8: 22-24
We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time. Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. For in this hope we were saved. But hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what he already has?

charityagape · Jan 31, 2007

But I don't see where you explained at all to any ability what flesh being saved means? Could you just give us the numbers to the posts? I didn't think that flesh got saved.

DreamerOfDreams · Jan 31, 2007

jrlinz · Jan 31, 2007

Quaffer, DoD, where do you learn this stuff? Is there a properly ordained Minister of the Gospel who teaches this? Is it spread on websites?

DreamerOfDreams · Jan 31, 2007

I understand what she is saying.
She is referring to how the flesh is full of lust and will always be. But we are referring to our walk.. that is we can overcome that lust of the flesh by the reborn spirit and faith in the word.
I agree with her... we are just saying the same thing using different terms.
She is ok!!!

~RENEE~ · Jan 31, 2007

DreamerOfDreams said:
I am confused that after enduring two days of being attacked regarding my stand for holiness and righteous living, how someone I thought was my friend could say that I am soft on sin!!!!!????
Wow... I almost fell out of my chair on that one!
Who can read on these posts and still think dids is soft on sin????

http://www.christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=31270880&postcount=92
http://www.christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=31297871&postcount=66
http://www.christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=31308456&postcount=95
http://www.christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=31309202&postcount=102
http://www.christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=31309465&postcount=107
http://www.christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=31341727&postcount=171
http://www.christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=31344097&postcount=182
http://www.christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=31272085&postcount=97
http://www.christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=31307953&postcount=1
http://www.christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=31308654&postcount=3
http://www.christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=31336075&postcount=18
http://www.christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=31336312&postcount=20
http://www.christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=31338713&postcount=29
http://www.christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=31340336&postcount=31
http://www.christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=31341893&postcount=33
http://www.christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=31342609&postcount=35
http://www.christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=31263483&postcount=31
http://www.christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=31264248&postcount=45
http://www.christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=31270104&postcount=89
http://www.christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=31307563&postcount=1

dids I could tell you what has been said to me. I am so drained after this foolishness. I can't even think .

charityagape · Jan 31, 2007

jrlinz said:
Quaffer, DoD, where do you learn this stuff? Is there a properly ordained Minister of the Gospel who teaches this? Is it spread on websites?

It's in the bible.

jrlinz · Jan 31, 2007

charityagape said:
It's in the bible.

So, you learned it in a vacuum? Just you, possibly some friends and the bible?

charityagape · Jan 31, 2007

DreamerOfDreams said:
I understand what she is saying.
She is referring to how the flesh is full of lust and will always be. But we are referring to our walk.. that is we can overcome that lust of the flesh by the reborn spirit and faith in the word.
I agree with her... we are just saying the same thing using different terms.
She is ok!!!

Of course she's ok. She's better than okay, she a child of the King.

However, IS that what you mean?

DreamerOfDreams · Jan 31, 2007

In it in Matthew, John, Romans, 1 John, 1 Corinthians, Ephesians, Colosians, 1 Thessalonians, Hebrews, 1 Peter, Revelations... and those are just off the top of my head.

We are born again new creatures that are able to walk as Jesus walked. We have everything He did. We have a divine spirit from Christ, and we have the word and faith to overcome the world.
This is what we were called to be.

charityagape · Jan 31, 2007

jrlinz said:
So, you learned it in a vacuum? Just you, possibly some friends and the bible?

I learned it from reading the bible and going to church, it's not like some foreign new cult thing you know.

jrlinz · Jan 31, 2007

Well, then you will be the first group to ever successfully find the gate, if you are right. I am glad, though, that there is not some ordained minister teaching this.

jrlinz · Jan 31, 2007

The Pastor of your church teaches this? he is pentecostal/Charismatic?

DreamerOfDreams · Jan 31, 2007

charityagape said:
I learned it from reading the bible and going to church, it's not like some foreign new cult thing you know.

Amen... this is what I have been taught for 35 years. We have new life in Him, and that life enables us to walk a sinless life accpetable to God. It is not merely being declared righteous.. it includes the ability to WALK righteous. To be holy and blamelesss.

charityagape · Jan 31, 2007

Yeah, and he's "properly ordained". Oh, I also learned it at bible school.

You are talking about our ability as Christians to lead a sinless life right?

~RENEE~ · Jan 31, 2007

I don't even know what y'all are saying right now I am so drained. I am going to go bed and cry myself to sleep.

DreamerOfDreams · Jan 31, 2007

charityagape said:
Yeah, and he's "properly ordained". Oh, I also learned it at bible school.

You are talking about our ability as Christians to lead a sinless life right?

I guess I find it odd that this is new to people. This teaching has been around for as long as I have been a Christian... it is right out of the Bible. I can quote you dozens of verses that show that it is the plan of God to create a people who will walk in the light with Him and life holy before Him IN CHRIST.
I am really surprised that believers are not aware of this....

SpiritPsalmist · Jan 31, 2007

jrlinz said:
Quaffer, DoD, where do you learn this stuff? Is there a properly ordained Minister of the Gospel who teaches this? Is it spread on websites?

Which stuff are you referring to? The scriptures I've quoted? You'll find them in the Bible.

jrlinz · Jan 31, 2007

charityagape said:
Yeah, and he's "properly ordained". Oh, I also learned it at bible school.

You are talking about our ability as Christians to lead a sinless life right?

I am not sure I am understanding you completely, after all this dialogue. If you have an uncharitable or a lustful thought, have you sinned?

DreamerOfDreams · Jan 31, 2007

~RENEE~ said:
I don't even know what y'all are saying right now I am so drained. I am going to go bed and cry myself to sleep.

I am going to bed too.
This has been a rough day.
If you want to lose friends, teach promote righteousness and holiness...
you will find out who your friends are not.

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