The narrow way?

[lovesblessing]

This is truly the exact message you believe God was trying to convey with these particular words?

No, I'm saying that's what they mean to ME!

My life is hidden in Christ Jesus......it is no longer I who live, but Christ that lives in me!

Christina asked what those words meant to ME. I am thankful that Jesus did a perfect complete work at the cross and I don't have to work for my salvation. I am supposed to enter His rest.......that's what being in Christ means.....resting in His finished work of the New Covenant. I couldn't get myself saved with all my goody-goody works and I sure can't keep myself saved by them. Only the shed blood of Jesus can keep me saved. That is what the new covenant means. I am resting in His finished work. God want's to be the one who does for me.

 

[Dave01]

I'm saying ...

Don't report a post, if you don't like it. Just argue with them. People use that Report Post button WAYYYY too much. It's quite childish, really.

So you are saying that people should be arguing and having contentions over their views here?!?

 

[jrlinz]

No, I'm saying that's what they mean to ME!

My life is hidden in Christ Jesus......it is no longer I who live, but Christ that lives in me!

Christina asked what those words meant to ME. I am thankful that Jesus did a perfect complete work at the cross and I don't have to work for my salvation. I am supposed to enter His rest.......that's what being in Christ means.....resting in His finished work of the New Covenant. I couldn't get myself saved with all my goody-goody works and I sure can't keep myself saved by them. Only the shed blood of Jesus can keep me saved. That is what the new covenant means. I am resting in His finished work. God want's to be the one who does for me.

Cool! Thanks. I read your post, then read the scriptures given, then again read your post. I was going to ask which translation you used. I understand now.

 

[Tamara224]

If mods read threads, they can pursue disciplinary actions.

PEOPLE DON'T REPORT POSTS BECAUSE OF RULE VIOLATIONS. THEY REPORT POSTS TO GET OTHER PEOPLE IN TROUBLE.

Mods do not read all threads, we do not see everything. For the most part we rely on members reporting posts to moderate.

I repeat, to all members, continue to report posts as you see fit and mods will evaluate them according to the rules of CF.

Flame wars (aka "duking it out") violate the rules and will be dealt with as needed, according to the protocols and rules of CF.

P.S. If a person violates the rules, that person needs to "get in trouble".

 

[jrlinz]

Yes, councellor, Ma'am.

 

[Dave01]

Mods do not read all threads, we do not see everything. For the most part we rely on members reporting posts to moderate.

I repeat, to all members, continue to report posts as you see fit and mods will evaluate them according to the rules of CF.

Flame wars (aka "duking it out") violate the rules and will be dealt with as needed, according to the protocols and rules of CF.

P.S. If a person violates the rules, that person needs to "get in trouble".

I fully disagree with your position and feel it is my duty to argue with you!!!

 

[IBourneI]

Matthew 7:13-14
"Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it."


What do these scriptures mean to you as a Christian?

I see lies, god loves...the gate is everywhere we choose not to see it...

 

[jrlinz]

I see lies, god loves...the gate is everywhere we choose not to see it...

I noticed you used the little g to address your little deity there. A little freudian slip?

 

[~RENEE~]

I see lies, god loves...the gate is everywhere we choose not to see it...

So then you are saying that God is a liar? Boy you have got some serious deception issues goin on.

 

[Dave01]

I can't bring up his posts right now, but I was looking at them the other day, he has admitted to actively smoking pot as a Christian, and his posts like this and others, are of the "way out there" aspect,...

2 + 2 = 4

 

[jrlinz]

Originally Posted by Tamara224
P.S. If a person violates the rules, that person needs to "get in trouble".

Sounds ominous! Remind me not to violate any rules around here.

 

[jrlinz]

I see lies, god loves...the gate is everywhere we choose not to see it...

Let me get this straight:
You said "the gate is everywhere we choose not to see it". So, if we did choose to see it somewhere, that means it wouldn't be there? Oh, that god is soo playful! That would explain why so few will find it, wouldn't it.

 

[ChowdersMom]

Let me get this straight:
You said "the gate is everywhere we choose not to see it". So, if we did choose to see it somewhere, that means it wouldn't be there? Oh, that god is soo playful! That would explain why so few will find it, wouldn't it.

I think it might be a punctuation problem. I read it as:

"The gate is everywhere. We choose not to see it."

I think.

 

[jrlinz]

I think it might be a punctuation problem. I read it as:

"The gate is everywhere. We choose not to see it."

I think.

I am pretty sure you are right, Ma'am. typo could be my middle name.I just thought one so deeply into symbolic imagery (Liberty, Garden,etc...) might get the symbolism in his typo's. You know, small 'g' god, the gate being hidden, elusive to him, blind leading the blind. Might be a subconcious plea for deliverance from a part of his inner being that is being prodded by the Almighty One.

 

[Tamara224]

I fully disagree with your position and feel it is my duty to argue with you!!!

 

[JimfromOhio]

If we cannot live fully free from the world and sin...then the gospel is a failure. The resurrection is a failure. The word is a failure. And the NT is a failure.

None of these are failures.
It is our worldly and sin concious minds that are failures.

My flesh cooperates only with what my spirit has decided to do.

Do we really ALWAYS submit to the fruits of the spirit as spirit-filled Christians? The Holy Spirit HELPS you to do something. If you don't submit to the Holy Spirit, you are disobeying God if you sit back and do nothing. We are spiritual with spiritual attitudes of our hearts. If the people are submitting to the Holy Spirit, who will give them fruit. Let the Holy Spirit do what He will through you.

Galatians 5:22-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. Christians are no longer "in the flesh": "You are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him" (Rom 8:9). The Greek word for "dwells" is okv (oike), which means "I inhabit." Galatians 5:25 Remember, the Holy Spirit dwells in our hearts with all the power and gifts of God, necessary to enable us to walk the noble, spiritual, Son-like life with God. Romans 15:5 May the God who gives endurance and encouragement give you a spirit of unity among yourselves as you follow Christ Jesus Ephesians 4:3 Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace (spiritually).

 

[JimfromOhio]

I think it might be a punctuation problem. I read it as:

"The gate is everywhere. We choose not to see it."

I think.

A spiritually dead person cannot will himself to live anymore than a physically dead person can will himself to come back to life. If the dead person (spiritually or physically) is to come back to life he/she will have to be resurrected by God. In the spiritual realm this means he/she must be born from above. A spiritually dead person is without the Holy Spirit, therefore we do not have the "ability" to get saved on our own. We need the Holy Spirit to prick and quicken us to be alive. Without the Holy Spirit is TOTAL DEPRAVITY". The Holy Spirit is the only person that can quicken people to be saved. 1 Corinthians 2:14 The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. Acts 7:51 "You stiff-necked people, with uncircumcised hearts and ears! You are just like your fathers: You always resist the Holy Spirit! 1 Thessalonians 4:8 Therefore, he who rejects this instruction does not reject man but God, who gives you his Holy Spirit. John 6:63 The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and they are life. Romans 8:11 And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit, who lives in you. 2 Corinthians 3:6 He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 1 John 3:4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness. Romans 7:8 But sin, seizing the opportunity afforded by the commandment, produced in me every kind of covetous desire. For apart from law, sin is dead. Romans 8:7 the sinful mind is hostile to God. It does not submit to God's law, nor can it do so. 1 Corinthians 15:56 The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law.

Without Christ through the Holy Spirit... we ARE NOTHING except worthy of going through the WIDE GATE of hell. Ungenerated people have no capacity to understand God's spiritual truth; instead they created God in their own image that they are calling God's truth foolishness (1 Cor. 2:14). They are spiritually blind (2 Cor. 4:4), spiritually dead (Eph. 2:1) and spiritually ignorant (Eph. 4:18).

 

[~RENEE~]

I don't know about you people but. I am wtill living in this flesh. And this flesh is not saved so I have some trouble with it. Oncer in while I have to make it listen.

I take it those that do not have this kind of trouble are no longer in your flesh but are in your heavenly bodies already meaning your not even on this earth anymore but are in heaven now.

Or maybe this saying applies. If Satan is not fighting you than he already has you. Because he don't fight his own.

Or maybe the option applies. You are batteling this fleshly nature and are just not willing to admit it.

 

[JimfromOhio]

I don't know about you people but. I am wtill living in this flesh. And this flesh is not saved so I have some trouble with it. Oncer in while I have to make it listen.

I take it those that do not have this kind of trouble are no longer in your flesh but are in your heavenly bodies already meaning your not even on this earth anymore but are in heaven now.

Or maybe this saying applies. If Satan is not fighting you than he already has you. Because he don't fight his own.

Or maybe the option applies. You are batteling this fleshly nature and are just not willing to admit it.

This is where Paul is talking about when we are battling with our "flesh" in Romans 7 and Galatians 5. Old Creature (Following flesh's desires) = Self-Centered, New Creature (Following God's desires) = God-Centered. From our old creature, we learned worldly desires and causing us to think more worldly (still do). Those who are in Christ Romans 7:18 I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. Galatians 5:17 For the sinful nature desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the sinful nature. They are in conflict with each other, so that you do not do what you want. We just need to be looking at our adequacy in the Holy Spirit, which will always be in us.

EVERYONE FACES temptations and everyone is different which is why I hate when people focus on "specific sinful acts" when "we, ourselves" are just as bad as they are.

When a Christian who is saved by the conviction of the Holy Spirit, this Christian is living in a new Creature with holy conscience rather than sinful conscience. Every Christian must decide whether they will us their liberty to decide on their moral decisions. We are free, but our freedom must prove a source of real temptation of this world. We are free from the chains of sin because by grace we are saved by Christ that we are forgiven. Grace is we live in the Spirit AND also walk in the Spirit. The Holy Spirit dwells in us with all the power and gifts of God, necessary to enable us to walk the noble, spiritual, Son-like life with God. We all have to come to the understanding that while God wants us to be Spirit-filled that God's loving desire that we should reflect His own holiness and goodness.

In other words, our human body is subject to death (and is already dying) because of sin, however our spirit is alive in Christ. We have eternal life in our possession, even though our body is dying because of sin. However, as Christians, our spirits are fully alive and thriving "because of righteousness"--because HE is justified and therefore already has "passed out of death into life" (John 5:24). "My temorary body is decaying at the same time, my inner being is being renewed day by day" (2 Cor 4:16). "If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit." Galatians 5:25. Since the Word of God (Bible) is "Inspired by the Holy Spirit", 2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. In order to "revere" the Word of God (Bible), you submit to the Holy Spirit who is the Author of the Bible.

 

[TheGloryisHere]

I don't know about you people but. I am wtill living in this flesh. And this flesh is not saved so I have some trouble with it. Oncer in while I have to make it listen.

I take it those that do not have this kind of trouble are no longer in your flesh but are in your heavenly bodies already meaning your not even on this earth anymore but are in heaven now.

Or maybe this saying applies. If Satan is not fighting you than he already has you. Because he don't fight his own.

Or maybe the option applies. You are batteling this fleshly nature and are just not willing to admit it.

good one. We are all battling our flesh, and will be doing so until we escape this cursed planet.