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20 years, and not even close. But, things still come up that I know are not pleasing to God. Sure they are much "smaller", if you will.[/I]
Sorry, I did not see the question mark.
I will answer the question with a question: How long have you known the Lord? Do you still allow the flesh to rule in the same area's and quantity that you did the day you first got saved?
BUT, I think it important for you to know that I feel you did not answer the question at all.20 years, and not even close. But, things still come up that I know are not pleasing to God. Sure they are much "smaller", if you will.
Of course things come up...else there would be nothing to overcome. And instead of claiming that "I am conquered" we should say, as scripture says, "I am more than a conquerer". Sin no longer REIGNS in me. It still may be present in my flesh, in small doses, but it does not REIGN! I win more frequently than the flesh does.20 years, and not even close. But, things still come up that I know are not pleasing to God. Sure they are much "smaller", if you will.
You answered my question, therefore answering yours.BUT, I think it important for you to know that I feel you did not answer the question at all.
Of course things come up...else there would be nothing to overcome. And instead of claiming that "I am conquered" we should say, as scripture says, "I am more than a conquerer". Sin no longer REIGNS in me. It still may be present in my flesh, in small doses, but it does not REIGN!
The Christ who lives in you cannot sin. We can choose to give into the flesh. But Christ, living in you CANNOT SIN.This is true, we now have dominion over it whereas before we were dominated by it.
That don't mean we can't sin though.
So,whatever I believe, that is what you believe? I am missing something in your reply, Quaffer. Whatever I answer, that is the answer to what you believe?You answered my question, therefore answering yours.
julinz said:20 years, and not even close. But, things still come up that I know are not pleasing to God. Sure they are much "smaller", if you will.
The Christ who lives in you cannot sin. We can choose to give into the flesh. But Christ, living in you CANNOT SIN.
Did I say that The Holy Spirit was leading me or anyone to sin?
I happen to be in agreement with you. Some of our most Spirit-filled folks today and in the past made some of the most sinful decisions on their parts, hence why we are not perfect.
Our only perfect example was Jesus.
I was only responding to the post, not accusing you or anyone else of anything.
I believe that when our most Spirit-filled folks of today allowed themselves to dwell on the desires of the flesh that is what led them to sucumb to them. They were not walking in the Spirit way before they actually fell.
BUT, I think it important for you to know that I feel you did not answer the question at all.
This question was not addressed to me, but I will attempt to answer.Quaffer, DOD, CharityAgape, If I were saved today, gave my life to God, accepted Jesus' sacrifice, and slept with a woman otherthan my wife tomorrow, I would be sinning?
This question was not addressed to me, but I will attempt to answer.
No. YOU would not be sinning if you had truly given your life to God and accepted Jesus' sacrifice. What you would be doing is giving into your flesh, which is NOT you.
Does this mean I'm advocating sleeping with other women? Uh, no. It means that just like Paul, you have to overcome your flesh, but the real you is not sinning. You are caving in to the sin nature inside of your flesh, but if you are God's, YOU are not sinning.
When that lustful thought that you keep referencing tries to come to the real you, what do you do? Do you embrace it, or do you quickly rebuke it?
Some people think that this is splitting hairs, but I don't believe it is. The Bible is clear in 1 John 3:9 that if we are born of God, we CAN NOT sin. To understand this, we must understand that our spirit, or the real us, is incapable of sinning, even though we may have to battle with our flesh. But we can put our flesh under. As others have said, God would not have told us to do something we could not accomplish.
Now I have answered the unanswerable question with a direct answer.
I believe that is correct.So, Mr. Haggard was not guilty of sin before the Father when his indescretions occurred?
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