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So do you agree that the Incarnation, God’s coming to us in a human body, is “not impossible”?God can speak through jesus this is not impossible but that doesn't make jesus God..all of us have immortal souls..the soul cannot die because it is from god. if god was truly died in flesh even if he was a normal person his soul will not die
1 John 2:22-23 Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist--denying the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father:
1 John 4:1-3 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
Even demons acknowledged that Jesus was the son of God.
Mark 5:7 and shouting with a loud voice, he said, "What business do we have with each other, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I implore You by God, do not torment me!"
That's why your teaching is false.
Your "prophet" is responsible for leading a billion people away from the one true God; hardly a display of altruism. His false teaching destroyed many, many lives. His religion of hate leads to parents burning the child to death with acid because they talk with a boy on a cell phone. His followers cry "God is great" before performing acts of barbarism.
Fact: in the 1400 year history of islam, muslims have murdered over 270 million people.
Fact: Since 911, muslims have committed over 23 thousand deadly terror attacks around the world.
Fact: Islam can not and will not peacefully co exist with any other religion on earth.
Tabari 7:97 The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, “Kill any Jew who falls under your power.” Ashraf was a poet, killed by Muhammad’s men because he insulted Islam. Here, Muhammad widens the scope of his orders to kill. An innocent Jewish businessman was then slain by his Muslim partner, merely for being non-Muslim.
Tabari 9:69 “Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us” The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.
Ibn Ishaq: 327 – “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”
Quran (4:95) – “Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-” source
So Muslims who stay home and refuse to kill are considered lesser in the eyes of Allah.
Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"
9:29 "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the last day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and his apostle nor acknowledge the religion of truth of the people of the Book (the Jews and the Christians) until they pay the Jizya [tax on non-Muslims] with willing submission and feel themselves subdued."
Mohammed permitted stealing from unbelievers.
(Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764)
Mohammed owned and traded slaves.
(Sahih Muslim 3901)
Mohammed beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys.
(Abu Dawud 4390)
Mohammed murdered those who insulted him.
(Bukhari 56:369, 4:241)
Mohammed married 13 wives and kept sex slaves.
(Bukhari 5:268, Quran 33:50)
Mohammed slept with a 9-year-old child.
(Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236)
Mohammed ordered 65 military campaigns
and raids in his last 10 years.
(Ibn Ishaq )
Mohammed encouraged his men to rape enslaved women.
(Abu Dawood 2150, Quran 4:24)
Mohammed demanded captured slaves and
a fifth of all other loot taken in war.
(Quran 8:41)
Mohammed advocated crucifying others.
(Quran 5:33, Muslim 16:4131)
Mohammed died fat and wealthy from what was
taken from others in war or
demanded from others in tribute. source
The proof is in your own holy book. Have you not read it? Why do you excuse the evil this man did in the name of God?
What does that have to do with a murderer like Mohammed?
How does one believe in all monotheistic religions when they teach contrary messages? It's a logical absurdity.
Incorrect. The one who acknowledges that Jesus was the son of God; that He was crucified for the sins of man; that He rose again on the third day and that He sits on the right hand of the Father is a true prophet.
Mohammed was one of the most sinful me who ever lived. Ever read your own holy book?
Quran (4:95) – “Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home). Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-” ?
Mohammed permitted stealing from unbelievers.
(Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764)
Mohammed owned and traded slaves.
(Sahih Muslim 3901)
Mohammed beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys.
(Abu Dawud 4390)
Mohammed murdered those who insulted him.
(Bukhari 56:369, 4:241)
Mohammed married 13 wives and kept sex slaves. ?
(Bukhari 5:268, Quran 33:50)
Mohammed slept with a 9-year-old child. ?
Mohammed ordered 65 military campaigns
and raids in his last 10 years.
(Ibn Ishaq )
Mohammed encouraged his men to rape enslaved women.
(Abu Dawood 2150, Quran 4:24)
Mohammed demanded captured slaves and
a fifth of all other loot taken in war.
(Quran 8:41)
Mohammed advocated crucifying others.
(Quran 5:33, Muslim 16:4131)
Mohammed died fat and wealthy from what was
taken from others in war or
demanded from others in tribute?
Mohammed permitted stealing from unbelievers?
no I do not believe in incarnation I believe Jesus was the spirit of god ...his word his manifestation his prophet but the idea of god in flesh is so irrational and impossible for me..god is god human is humanSo do you agree that the Incarnation, God’s coming to us in a human body, is “not impossible”?
You deny that He is the son of God, and the only sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins. How are your sins forgiven without a blood sacrifice? You hold to neither the old or the new covenant.@KWCrazy
Who denies that jesus is the Christ?
Luck you.I am a muslim I talk with many boys on the phone in front of my father and that is okay with him
How is one calling to believe in Christianity while denying that Christ was the son of God and the blood sacrifice for the sins of man? That same Christianity warned of false teachers like Mohammed with a new message that would deceive many.Our prophet led people away from the true god?? The prophet who calls to believe in the god of Abraham jesus moses is leading people to a false god?? How come? Our prophet who called to believe in Judaism and Christianity is leading us to worship a false god?
Please show where Jesus said to arise and kill in His name. I believer that was YOUR religion.And Christians didn’t commit murders and massacres? Say hello to the crusades
However, it is in the Quran and others who also follow the Quran understand that they will go to paradise if they kill for Allah.Lots of narrations are false and we do not believe in such narrations of killing and terror
Mohammed wasn't defending anything. He had no country to defend. He was attacking and making war against the Meccans. His call to battle was never about defense. That's why the Muslims invaded the Holy Lands in the first place.Don’t you believe that those who defend their countries are most respected than those who refuse defending them?
When Mohammed was out of power in Mecca he wrote about getting along with everyone. When he became a strongman in Medina his message changed. Both are of the same man.This is not true all those narrations are false and we muslim Shia do not believe or trust the source of these narrations
Absolute nonsense. Aisha became his wife at 6. When she was 9 she was playing on a swing with her doll. Her mother came and got her and brought her to the 55 year old Mohammed, who then has sex with her. I could post her account of the story, which happened exactly like that. Would you like to read it?This is not true also they said to marry this girl to the prophet at 9 but there was no intercourse until she became a woman a mature one
The violence you don't reject, only his weight?Hhhh that makes me laugh..from where did they know that he was fat?? Our prophet was living as a ascetic
History says otherwise.Our prophet was not a murder.
Over 670 million non-Muslims massacred since the birth of IslamKilling has nothing to do with our prophet.
Sure he believed in them, but he violated every one of them. He was an evil man; a false prophet. According to the Bible his place is in the lake of fire.Prophet Mohammad is a sinful person?? What did he do?? Call us to be kind and merciful calling us to believe in the ten commandments??
.Please show where Jesus said to arise and kill in His name. I believer that was YOUR religion.
Absolute nonsense. Aisha became his wife at 6. When she was 9 she was playing on a swing with her doll. Her mother came and got her and brought her to the 55 year old Mohammed, who then has sex with her. I could post her account of the story, which happened exactly like that. Would you like to read it? .
Sure he believed in them, but he violated every one of them. He was an evil man; a false prophet. According to the Bible his place is in the lake of fire .
We deny he is the son we believe he is the spirit of god
Killing daughter with acid are not Islamic teachings it is Arabic traditions
For you prophet Mohammad is a false prophet for billions of people he is a true one
Prophet called us to believe in the monotheistic books is that a false prophet?
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And the crusades were they killing in the name of the Christ? Yes
No you are wrong ..if you kill innocent people you will enter to hell this is in the Quran
Mohammad was defending his religion and he has the right to do so
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You are reading false narrations of false source..i am wondering do they used to have dolls then?
Prophet Mohammad is a holy man whether you believe it or not..having many wives were from the old traditions and not only in islam
Having many wives is not something restricted to islam:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygamy
read this topic
prophet Mohammad was a man of peace even if he was leading wars he was defending his religion he has the right to do so
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He didn’t violate any thing..he was not an evil man nor a false prophet ...the message of prophet Mohammad is more truth than all the other messages because it combines all messages the Judaism the Christianity and Islam this is the proof upon the truth of the message of Mohammad and the truth of the prophecy of Mohammad..the ones who will go to hell are those who corrupted your bible and those who transformed Jesus from the spirit of god to the son of god and made jesus a god like the god of universe..
Those who are humiliating our prophet will take place in the lake of fire and never our prophet..prophet Mohammad has the keys of paradise and hell he is free to enter anyone and take out anyone of them
Is it possible that he is the spirit of God?
According to Luke 3:21-22,
the spirit of God came down over him as a dove.
So, the spirit of God came down over the spirit of God?
Genesis 1:2,
Now the Earth was astonishly empty,
and darkness was on the face of the deep,
and the spirit of God was hovering over the face of the water.
There we have him again, hovering over water,
remarkable chap don't you think?
How does he call you to believe in the book but yet reject what is written in it? That makes no sense. How are you to believe in the Jews and then at a later date be called upon to hunt them to extinction?Prophet called us to believe in the monotheistic books is that a false prophet?
They were taking the name of the Lord in vain. Had they been ordained by God, they would have easily driven the Muslims from the Holy lands. God doesn't lose battles.And the crusades were they killing in the name of the Christ?
I believe you, but in his latter teaching Mohammed doesn't consider non Muslims to be innocent.No you are wrong ..if you kill innocent people you will enter to hell this is in the Quran
Mohammed's attacks were proactive, not reactive.Mohammad was defending his religion and he has the right to do so
From the hadith of Bukhari, volume 5, #234You are reading false narrations of false source..i am wondering do they used to have dolls then?
There was nothing holy about Mohammed. Sorry.Prophet Mohammad is a holy man whether you believe it or not..having many wives were from the old traditions and not only in islam
He led wars of conquest, not in defense of his religion.prophet Mohammad was a man of peace even if he was leading wars he was defending his religion he has the right to do so
By Biblical definition he was both.He didn’t violate any thing..he was not an evil man nor a false prophet
Mohammed shares in the torment of all he leads to destruction. He led an immoral life of rape, murder and enslavement and now pays for his sins. The Bible says in Revelation that that false prophet will be cast into the lake of fire. Mohammed is assuredly a false prophet. I'm sorry that you can't see what is glaringly obvious to most. I sincerely hope you turn away from this religion of evil.Those who are humiliating our prophet will take place in the lake of fire and never our prophet..prophet Mohammad has the keys of paradise and hell he is free to enter anyone and take out anyone of them
Dear HZ, you have said some interesting things. In the Bible, the Spirit of God is God Himself (Genesis 1:2), and God is Spirit (John 4:24). And the Word of God is God (John 1:1). Consider: can God ever be without His Word? You call Jesus “God’s manifestation.” That sounds very Christian. Would you explain what you mean by that? I have not heard a Muslim say that before. The Bible teaches that Jesus is “God manifest in the flesh” (1 Timothy 3:16). I don’t want to belabor the issue, but why do you think it is irrational and impossible for God to come to us as a man? God remains God, and human remains human, both natures remain intact; but in Jesus the deity and the humanity are united in one Person, similar to how our own immaterial soul and material body are united to form a single human person. Reality has a way of uniting things whose union we cannot explain.no I do not believe in incarnation I believe Jesus was the spirit of god ...his word his manifestation his prophet but the idea of god in flesh is so irrational and impossible for me..god is god human is human
Aisha became his wife at 6. When she was 9 she was playing on a swing with her doll. Her mother came and got her and brought her to the 55 year old Mohammed, who then has sex with her. I could post her account of the story, which happened exactly like that. Would you like to read it? Mohammed was not a holy man. He had 13 wives and routinely raped captured slaves.
Is it possible that he is the spirit of God?
According to Luke 3:21-22,
the spirit of God came down over him as a dove.
So, the spirit of God came down over the spirit of God?
How does he call you to believe in the book but yet reject what is written in it? That makes no sense. How are you to believe in the Jews and then at a later date be called upon to hunt them to extinction?
Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 176:
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "
They were taking the name of the Lord in vain. Had they been ordained by God, they would have easily driven the Muslims from the Holy lands. God doesn't lose battles.
I believe you, but in his latter teaching Mohammed doesn't consider non Muslims to be innocent.
Mohammed's attacks were proactive, not reactive.
From the hadith of Bukhari, volume 5, #234
"Narrated Aisha: The prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six. We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Harith Kharzraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became all right, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's messenger came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age."
There was nothing holy about Mohammed. Sorry.
Rape Jihad
This very important Jihad was sanctioned by Allah in ayas 4.3,4.24,23.6,33.50 and 70.30
Allah says in these ayas that muslims are allowed to capture infidel women and to have sex with them. Muhammad, all sahabas and all great muslim invaders practiced this sanction of Allah.
The above verses are only a few out of numerous such verses scattered throughout the Quran. What could be more unethical than owning and raping slave girls? Allah graciously allowed Muslims to own and rape slave girls. Prophet Muhammad himself and his disciples routinely raped their slave girls. source
He led wars of conquest, not in defense of his religion.
By Biblical definition he was both.
Mohammed shares in the torment of all he leads to destruction. He led an immoral life of rape, murder and enslavement and now pays for his sins. The Bible says in Revelation that that false prophet will be cast into the lake of fire. Mohammed is assuredly a false prophet. I'm sorry that you can't see what is glaringly obvious to most. I sincerely hope you turn away from this religion of evil.
Dear HZ, you have said some interesting things. In the Bible, the Spirit of God is God Himself (Genesis 1:2), and God is Spirit (John 4:24). And the Word of God is God (John 1:1). Consider: can God ever be without His Word? You call Jesus “God’s manifestation.” That sounds very Christian. Would you explain what you mean by that? I have not heard a Muslim say that before. The Bible teaches that Jesus is “God manifest in the flesh” (1 Timothy 3:16). I don’t want to belabor the issue, but why do you think it is irrational and impossible for God to come to us as a man? God remains God, and human remains human, both natures remain intact; but in Jesus the deity and the humanity are united in one Person, similar to how our own immaterial soul and material body are united to form a single human person. Reality has a way of uniting things whose union we cannot explain.
Why not?
Most of the controversy is recent. At the time people thought nothing of it. It's not just that she was young and he was old, she was his 13th wife.So as you can see there is some controversy re. the age of Aisha when she was supposed to have married the Prophet.
So maybe we'll be the lucky ones not to be targeted.There is different sects of Jews not all Jews will be fought.
What I said was, if they truly had God's blessing they would have won. Regardless, what is the difference between taking a country by the sword and taking it back by the sword? The Muslims had no right to claim the land in the first place.You mean do you support crusades?
The problem is they quote from the same book. Maybe Islam should rise up and reject everything Mohammed wrote calling for war after he left Mecca.We have told you thousands of time that terrorists are not applying the teaching of God nor the teaching of our prophet yet you are not believing us
Only if you reject half the Quran.In all his life prophet Mohammad called to be kind with jews and Christians and even atheists
Nobody threatened his homeland. His were wars of conquest.Our prophet calls for fight to defend home lands or our religion and this is the right of every human to do so
If you consider nine to be mature...I’ve read the story of Aisha yet there ws no intercourse nor real marriage until she became mature
So you're telling me that Mohammed and his men had the permission of all the captives and slaves that they raped?I reviewed the verses all the verses talking that if you want to marry captive women you are allowed to do so but not against the will of the captive woman...is marriage forbidden?? No
I have no doubt some captives became wives. However, when Christ returns it will be with angels, not with humans.The mother of our Imam the twelfth imam was a captive when our imam Hassan al aaskari saw her he showed the desire to marry her..then they were married and gave birth to our imam Mahdi (the one who will appear with jesus Christ to rescue people)
And yet, even today Muslims are kidnapping girls and selling them for sex slaves.They used to marry captive women just as the normal same marriage of other women
I believe the Scriptures and their determination of what constitutes a false prophet.Prophet Mohammad is a true prophet whether you believe it or not.
Dear HZ, irrational would mean that there was a logical contradiction somewhere. You have recognized that there is no logical contradiction involved in the personal union of two incommensurate things, soul and body. Likewise there is no contradiction involved in the union of Divine and human in the Person of Jesus.Jesus god’s manifestation means that god can be seen through jesus why not he is a mirror that reflects the characteristics of god..but the idea that says jesus is god or jesus is the son of god, this is impossible and unacceptable by us
You said god is god and human is human that is why it is irrational to say god was incarnated or became in flesh
You have mentioned the idea of the relation between the soul and the body...very good
Most of the controversy is recent. At the time people thought nothing of it. It's not just that she was young and he was old, she was his 13th wife.
Not hardly what one would expect from a prophet.
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