The Moon is Made of Cheese

[TheBear]

[rant]

Honestly, when it comes to some YEC's arguing their case for a young earth, it's as if all logic and reasoning is discarded, in their zeal to defend an undefendable interpretation of scripture. I have a lot more respect for those who just say that they believe the earth is young because that's the way they were taught from the Bible and their church, and leave it at that.

But the more I read these threads, the more disgusted I get with all the circular reasoning, tap-dancing, deceptive tactics, half-truths, and evasiveness of so-called Christians.


The moon is made of cheese.

That's my religious belief. Therefore, it should be taught in schools along side scientific descriptions of the moon, and let the children decide for themselves.

That's what we're dealing with, folks. It's pathetic and sad.

[/rant]

 

[The Bible Thumper]

Oh goodie. Yet another thread from the Exalt the Chimp Soceity...

 

[TheBear]

See what I mean, folks?

Perfect example right here.

 

[MSBS]

Oh goodie. Yet another thread from the Exalt the Chimp Soceity...

Talk about the pot and the kettle...

 

[AnEmpiricalAgnostic]

Oh goodie. Yet another thread from the Exalt the Chimp Soceity...

Amazing how so few words can say so much about an individual.

 

[TheBear]

Amazing how so few words can say so much about an individual.

You're right about that.

 

[Herman Hedning]

But the moon is made of cheese, and here's the scientific proof.

http://moon.google.com

Zoom all the way in and see for yourself.

 

[Forever42]

But the moon is made of cheese, and here's the scientific proof.

http://moon.google.com

Zoom all the way in and see for yourself.

Darn, I came in here to post that

 

[Grengor]

Ahahaha! What a cool little prank.

 

[LittleNipper]

[rant]

Honestly, when it comes to some YEC's arguing their case for a young earth, it's as if all logic and reasoning is discarded, in their zeal to defend an undefendable interpretation of scripture. I have a lot more respect for those who just say that they believe the earth is young because that's the way they were taught from the Bible and their church, and leave it at that.

But the more I read these threads, the more disgusted I get with all the circular reasoning, tap-dancing, deceptive tactics, half-truths, and evasiveness of so-called Christians.


The moon is made of cheese.

That's my religious belief. Therefore, it should be taught in schools along side scientific descriptions of the moon, and let the children decide for themselves.

That's what we're dealing with, folks. It's pathetic and sad.

[/rant]

How long has this idea been taught? Who believed it originally? Does this people still exist? Does the literature that advocates this contain prophetic information that has come to pass? Has research demonstrated that this literature that promotes a moon of cheese is reliable in any other areas, such as historic and geographic? Is there contemporary literature the substantiates any of the claims? Shall we continue, as to logically why your "religious" claim is not of the caliber of the Holy Bible and Christianity?
What about the characteristics of those that hold to your "faith?"

 

[Ozymandius]

How long has this idea been taught? Who believed it originally? Does this people still exist? Does the literature that advocates this contain prophetic information that has come to pass? Has research demonstrated that this literature that promotes a moon of cheese is reliable in any other areas, such as historic and geographic? Is there contemporary literature the substantiates any of the claims? Shall we continue, as to logically why your "religious" claim is not of the caliber of the Holy Bible and Christianity?
What about the characteristics of those that hold to your "faith?"

The green cheese theory is quite reliable. It describes a spherical object in orbit several hundred thousand miles from the planet, and is therefore true in all respects.

The bible is a lame copy of an older mythology and hasn't been corroborated by anything.

 

[neverforsaken]

i think that even with those who support evolution like me know that evolution is a theory and therefore has questions that are unanswered. i am not for the teaching of creationism is school, but i am also not for the "end all be all" preaching of evolution in schools. when i was in school i was taught evolution as a part of science like everyone else. but not once did the text mention the issues currently unexplained by evolutionary theory. now, i dont believe that just because something is not currently explainable that it makes the idea false, but science is the collection of facts and facts include admitting what hasnt been explained. But my teacher presented evolution not as a theory but as an entity more resembling an infallible god. And it is that which i do not like. not the teaching of it in itself.

 

[tocis]

Honestly, when it comes to some YEC's arguing their case for a young earth, it's as if all logic and reasoning is discarded, in their zeal to defend an undefendable interpretation of scripture.

"As if"?
From literally all the experience I have gathered about the creationist nonsense, I conclude that it is like you suppose above. Forget the "as if".

I have a lot more respect for those who just say that they believe the earth is young because that's the way they were taught from the Bible and their church, and leave it at that.

Sad that there are so very few of them, no? Spontaneously, I only remember one single person in two years of battle against creationist dishonesty who openly said "Yup, I don't have evidence for creationism. I believe it on faith, others are free to disagree, period". A very kind person, that one. We need more of those!

 

[Ozymandius]

i think that even with those who support evolution like me know that evolution is a theory and therefore has questions that are unanswered. i am not for the teaching of creationism is school, but i am also not for the "end all be all" preaching of evolution in schools. when i was in school i was taught evolution as a part of science like everyone else. but not once did the text mention the issues currently unexplained by evolutionary theory. now, i dont believe that just because something is not currently explainable that it makes the idea false, but science is the collection of facts and facts include what hasnt been explained. But my teacher presented evolution not as a theory but as an entity more resembling an infallible god. And it is that which i do not like. not the teaching of it in itself.

Explain how it was presented as an infallible fact? I think I see where you're going with this, and I want to say that gravity was explained to me as an "infallible fact" in high school, and I didn't complain.

 

[tocis]

See what I mean, folks?

Perfect example right here.

Ayup.

 

[Nymphalidae]

How long has this idea been taught? Who believed it originally? Does this people still exist? Does the literature that advocates this contain prophetic information that has come to pass? Has research demonstrated that this literature that promotes a moon of cheese is reliable in any other areas, such as historic and geographic? Is there contemporary literature the substantiates any of the claims? Shall we continue, as to logically why your "religious" claim is not of the caliber of the Holy Bible and Christianity?
What about the characteristics of those that hold to your "faith?"

The moon doesn't shave and therefore must be made of cheese.

 

[TheBear]

I only remember one single person in two years of battle against creationist dishonesty who openly said "Yup, I don't have evidence for creationism. I believe it on faith, others are free to disagree, period". A very kind person, that one. We need more of those!

I remember him too.

Honesty and integrity far outweigh getting it right, in my book.

 

[gunglepus]

The moon is made of cheese.

What kind of cheese?

 

[z3ro]

i think that even with those who support evolution like me know that evolution is a theory and therefore has questions that are unanswered. i am not for the teaching of creationism is school, but i am also not for the "end all be all" preaching of evolution in schools. when i was in school i was taught evolution as a part of science like everyone else. but not once did the text mention the issues currently unexplained by evolutionary theory. now, i dont believe that just because something is not currently explainable that it makes the idea false, but science is the collection of facts and facts include admitting what hasnt been explained. But my teacher presented evolution not as a theory but as an entity more resembling an infallible god. And it is that which i do not like. not the teaching of it in itself.

How, exactly, should we teach kids what we don't know?

 

[neverforsaken]

How, exactly, should we teach kids what we don't know?

no, what i meant was that we should explain that there are questions that are currently unanswered. an examply being with the big bang. all the matter was compressed into a single point and exploded in a big bang. but what we dont know is where the matter came from in the first place. it doesnt make the theory "wrong" but it does mean that there is a question that isnt answered. thats all im saying. Since it is a theory shouldnt the facts as well as the flaws in the theory be explored as well? the problem with common creationist arguments is that when something cant be explained by science they think it means that creationism is right by default. but that is not what i am suggesting. i am suggesting the whole story. speak of the facts of evolution that have been proven, but point to the current imperfection of the theory and stop treating it like it is perfect.