The Millenial Temple

[visionary]

That sounds about right to me. I think I am at the present time unless convicted otherwise in the future by the Holy Spirit that I am also a premiliinianist post tribulation and in the latter days,

 

[Standyman51]

Deleted post. I did not know the rules of the forum. My apologies.

Stan

 

[theseed]

Last July 2004, I posted a repsonse to Visionary's claim that Christ sits on his throne, and this was interpreted as malicious/contentioius/disruptive, and I'm sorry for any offense that I may have caused. I now understand that although MJ's usually believe in a literal earthly reign of Christ as I do, they may have different beliefs of how he reigns now. I will later take the opportunity to reframe my orginal post into an inquiry

 

[theseed]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember/heard that Moses' Temple was modeled after the temple found in heaven?


What do you all think? How do you reconcile the 1000 year reign of Christ with a Kingdom that is forever?

 

[Hitch]

The same way you reconcile bloody sin offerings withe the Cross.

 

[visionary]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember/heard that Moses' Temple was modeled after the temple found in heaven?


What do you all think? How do you reconcile the 1000 year reign of Christ with a Kingdom that is forever?

How long do you think Christ would have to reign before we could live in His Kingdom forever perfectly?

 

[theseed]

How long do you think Christ would have to reign before we could live in His Kingdom forever perfectly?

Well, if we are raptured and ressurected (believers) and then return with Christ, we will already be perfected.

 

[visionary]

Well, if we are raptured and ressurected (believers) and then return with Christ, we will already be perfected.

So you believe that time is needed at the feet of Yeshua to understand perfect in Christ?

 

[theseed]

So you believe that time is needed at the feet of Yeshua to understand perfect in Christ?

I believe that Christ will perfect us, and is perfecting us. It is only a matter of time before he delivers us from this body of death, and put off corruption for incorruption.

1 Corinthians 13
9For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
10But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

1 Corinthians 15
42So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

 

[visionary]

Let me separate the transformation of the mind, from the transformation of the body...for I beleive that God would not transform the body until the mind is fully transformed.

 

[Henaynei]

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[theseed]

Let me separate the transformation of the mind, from the transformation of the body...for I beleive that God would not transform the body until the mind is fully transformed.

Ok, I understand, and I agree.

 

[kosmos]

Let me try to explain it this way. I have come to appreciate that (as they Rabbis assert) Hebrew is The Holy Language. Why? Because it has the ability to express Biblical concepts in a way that NO other language can.

I agree completely upon this notion - that Hebrew may very well be a holy language, or the language of God. However, I do not know about Rabbis asserting this. My viewpoint comes from scripture studying from the Hebrew language.

 

[Hitch]

I agree completely upon this notion - that Hebrew may very well be a holy language, or the language of God. However, I do not know about Rabbis asserting this. My viewpoint comes from scripture studying from the Hebrew language.

Interesting the Apsotles didnt shy from using Greek translations.

 

[Henaynei]

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[Henaynei]

this thread is closed - it seems that it is just too much a magnet to violation of the MJF rules - specifically rule #3. The OP has been answered and the discussion is closed.