The messiah is almost here

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

The Jews (Judaism) believe that the messiah has to be of the tribe of Judah.

On the issue that the messiah must be born in Bethlehem, yes, as Christians we know that to be the case.

But to Jews (Judaism) they disagree that the messiah must be born in Bethlehem.

Why don't you go over to a site like MessiahTruth

Virtual Yeshiva Discussion Forums

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www.tapatalk.com

or Aish.com

The Jewish Website - Aish.com

Aish.com: Your up-to-date resource on Jewish food, philosophy, history, current events, spiritual growth, holidays and more!

aish.com

- both Judaism sites. And ask them if the messiah has to be born in Bethlehem.

He has to be from the line of David and David was born in Bethlehem. That was my point. But lets get back to the OP. Why do you or any other Christian think the Yanuka could be this Messiah? No Jew is saying such a thing as far as i know...

 

[Douggg]

He has to be from the line of David and David was born in Bethlehem. That was my point. But lets get back to the OP. Why do you or any other Christian think the Yanuka could be this Messiah? No Jew is saying such a thing as far as i know...

I think from the Christian persons posting You Tube videos about the Yanuka, asserting that he is the Jewish messiah - they are citing there have been some prominent rabbi's in the last year or so saying that they have been having talks with the messiah. So, the Christians posters are extrapolating from that and all the attention the Yanukah is getting.

I don't think there is actually any Jewish proclamation of the Yanukah being the messiah.

Personally, I don't think that the Yanuka fits the entire bill as the Antichrist (false) messsiah - because first, the person has to be the little horn figure - who will be over a group of ten kings.... that he wiil be associated with all the way to his destruction when Jesus returns.

I copied and pasted this from the Chabad.org Judaism site....

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The following are the criteria for identifying the Moshiach, as written by Maimonides:

If we see a Jewish leader who (a) toils in the study of Torah and is meticulous about the observance of the mitzvot, (b) influences the Jews to follow the ways of the Torah and (c) wages the "battles of G‑d"—such a person is the "presumptive Moshiach."

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So it appears that the person will have some military ability - which is one reason I am suspicious regarding Zelenksy - being the person who becomes the Antichrist.

On the other hand, the Yanukah seems to be credited with being a Torah, Talmud, kabbalah, expert, and appears to be influencing the Jews to follow the ways of the Torah.

So the idea for us, Yeshua HaDerekh, here at this forum I think is not to be vigorously arguing between ourselves, but to watch and see how things develop. You may have some points, I may have some points, others may have some points. We need to just keep exchanging information in our posts, until we can be absolutely certain.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

I think from the Christian persons posting You Tube videos about the Yanuka, asserting that he is the Jewish messiah - they are citing there have been some prominent rabbi's in the last year or so saying that they have been having talks with the messiah. So, the Christians posters are extrapolating from that and all the attention the Yanukah is getting.

I don't think there is actually any Jewish proclamation of the Yanukah being the messiah.

Personally don't think that the Yanuka fits the entire bill as the Antichrist (false) messsiah - because first, the person has to be the little horn figure - who will be over a group of ten kings.... that he wiil be associated with all the way to his destruction when Jesus returns.

I copied and pasted this from the Chabad.org Judaism site....

_________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

The following are the criteria for identifying the Moshiach, as written by Maimonides:

If we see a Jewish leader who (a) toils in the study of Torah and is meticulous about the observance of the mitzvot, (b) influences the Jews to follow the ways of the Torah and (c) wages the "battles of G‑d"—such a person is the "presumptive Moshiach."

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So it appears that the person will have some military ability - which is one reason I am suspicious regarding Zelenksy - being the person who becomes the Antichrist.

On the other hand, the Yanukah seems to be credited with being a Torah, kabbalah, expert, and appears to be influencing the Jews to follow the ways of the Torah.

So the idea for us, Yeshua HaDerekh, here at this forum I think is not to be vigorously arguing between ourselves, but the watch and see how things develop. You may have some points, I may have some points, others may have some points. We need to just keep exchanging information in our posts, until we can be absolutely certain.

Even though he is Jewish, I don't think Zelensky follows Torah much. ALL Rabbis try to influence keeping Torah. You know, that John was living in the time of Nero and Domitian, and much of that can be applied to that time period...Nero had a deadly wound, he committed suicide. Titus was the prince who destroyed Jerusalem. They were all tyrants and were called beasts...

 

[Douggg]

Even though he is Jewish, I don't think Zelensky follows Torah much.

Yes, that is the down side to Zelensky being the person.

 

[ViaCrucis]

I can not take that name on as being correct and in my heart I don’t believe it’s correct.. I must follow what I believe Is correct

In Hebrew it is either Yehoshua or Yeshua. In the Galilean dialect of JPA (Jewish Palestinian Aramaic) that was spoken in Nazareth it would have been pronounced something like Yeshu' or Yesho; both forms have modern representations among today's modern speakers of Aramaic where Jesus' name is pronounced as Yeshuu or Isho depending on the dialect of Aramaic spoken.

"Yahusha" isn't a Hebrew name. A person can call a person named Robert Rob, Bob, Robby, Bobby, etc; but one can't claim that the real name of "Robert" is, in fact, "Ragbrat"--that's simply not a name and not one that is at all based on the actual name of Robert.

The objective and factual Hebrew names are Yeshoshua and Yeshua, with Yeshua simply being a shortened form of Yehoshua. That name when transliterated or undergoing morphological changes in other languages, such as Aramaic, Greek, or English, might become Yeshu' or Iesous or Jesus. But it'll never be "Yahusha".

-CryptoLutheran

 

[dfw69]

The Bible reveals the "sign" associated with the Lord's Return
Jesus cannot return (because Scripture cannot be broken) until this "sign" is fulfilled in history.

Yes

2Th 2:1-8
Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us,
as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come,
except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and
exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God,
shewing himself that he is God. Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work:
only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. And THEN shall that Wicked be revealed,
whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

Right

This passage teaches that before the Lord Returns - there is a great "falling away" within the "Body of Christ".

Yes and could that falling away refer to a coming false messianic age that will teach the world ‘messiah is here’ and many will fall away from the faith in Jesus

At that time, he who now restrains (the Holy Spirit) will be "taken out of the way".

Yes I believe god will allow a false messianic age to come upon the world till mystery Babylon cup is full and her end is foretold

That is at the end of the
Great Commission.

Yes

.. at the "End of the Age" [Mat 28:18-20]. After the Last Saint is "sealed" [Rev 7:1-3]
The Bible is crystal clear about this: The Great Tribulation/Revelation Beast CAN NOT BEGIN
until the Last Saint has been "sealed" (saved).

Yes

Mat 28:18-20
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always,
even unto the End of the Age. Amen.

Amen

However, after the "End of the Age" (after the Great Commission) when the Last Saint has been "sealed" [Rev 7:1-3]
THEN Satan is loosened from his Bottomless Pit to RULE during his "Little Season"

Satan is not bound yet the angel from the bottomless pit is abbadon/Apollyon not sStan

Satan has a 7 head 10 horn and little horn kingdom throughout history

which is also shown as (1) the Revelation Beast
and (2) the Great Tribulation "Kingdom of Heaven" [Mat 25:1] and (3) Daniel's Fourth Kingdom and (4) the RULE of the man
called the "Little Horn" [Dan 7] and the "False Prophet" [Rev 19:20] and the "Man of Sin" [2 Thess 2:3]... the man commonly
known as THE Anti-Christ

Yes the Antichrist will come first to destroy mystery Babylon and then rule from Jerusalem set up AOD and seek to destroy all who will not worship

So... if someone is predicting the Lord's imminent Return... they must FIRST show WHERE the great "falling away" occurred
and WHEN the Last Saint is "sealed" and the Holy Spirit is "taken out of the way" and WHO is this "Man of Sin" that is "revealed"
during the great "falling away".

Can anyone show these things?
Then they should not be talking about an imminent Return.

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The lords return is not imminent until these things takes place

But perhaps a false messianic age is

 

[dfw69]

In Hebrew it is either Yehoshua or Yeshua. In the Galilean dialect of JPA (Jewish Palestinian Aramaic) that was spoken in Nazareth it would have been pronounced something like Yeshu' or Yesho; both forms have modern representations among today's modern speakers of Aramaic where Jesus' name is pronounced as Yeshuu or Isho depending on the dialect of Aramaic spoken.

"Yahusha" isn't a Hebrew name. A person can call a person named Robert Rob, Bob, Robby, Bobby, etc; but one can't claim that the real name of "Robert" is, in fact, "Ragbrat"--that's simply not a name and not one that is at all based on the actual name of Robert.

The objective and factual Hebrew names are Yeshoshua and Yeshua, with Yeshua simply being a shortened form of Yehoshua. That name when transliterated or undergoing morphological changes in other languages, such as Aramaic, Greek, or English, might become Yeshu' or Iesous or Jesus. But it'll never be "Yahusha".

-CryptoLutheran

I like the name Yasha .. I believe that was his given birth name by the angel

It means savior

Every time someone called his name they said “savior, son of david” only in Hebrew

 

[ViaCrucis]

I like the name Yasha .. I believe that was his given birth name by the angel

It means savior

Every time someone called his name they said “savior, son of david” only in Hebrew

"Yasha" doesn't mean anything in Hebrew. And that wasn't the name which Gabriel said to give Him.

You are free, of course, to believe anything, we all are. I am free to believe that I am Napoleon Bonaparte, but belief doesn't make something true. We should seek to conform our beliefs to truth. As Christians that means orientating our belief to the revealed truth of God which is given in and through Christ; but more generally it also means that our beliefs should conform to objective facts. For example, I may believe that the earth is flat, but it is a matter of objective truth and fact that the earth is, in fact, an oblate spheroid orbiting a star--our sun, while spinning on its axis. If one proposition is true and the other is not true surely it is preferable to believe that which is true rather than to believe that which isn't true.

It is, therefore, preferable to believe in the truth than to believe in things which are not true. You may very well believe that "Yasha" is a name, and it's the name which was given to the Messiah. But it wasn't. That's not a matter of feeling or opinion, but a matter of objective fact. The name, as recorded in the original Greek texts which make up all of the New Testament, is Ἰησοῦς (pronounced as Iesous). And this Greek construction was the standard way which the Hebrew name יְהוֹשֻׁעַ‎ and יֵשׁוּעַ‎, pronounced Yehoshua and Yeshua respectively was written.

How do we know that is the pronunciation of those two forms of that name? In the Middle Ages a group of Hebrew scholars and scribes created a system for pronunciation to aid readers. As written Hebrew lacked vowel characters, the Hebrew writing system being an abjad (a consonant-only writing system). While Hebrew had ceased to be a common language among the Jews following the Babylonian Captivity and the return from Exile, having been replaced with Aramaic, Hebrew remained an important language--the language of the Temple, the language of religious texts, the language of scholars and scribes. And it was these same scholars and scribes who kept the Hebrew language alive even following the destruction of the Jewish Temple in AD 70. They kept it alive in the liturgies of the synagogue, they kept it alive in prayers, they kept it alive through schools of learning. And so those scholars and scribes, specifically those known as the Masoretes, created vowel markers, called Niqqud in Hebrew. A system of dots and dashes which point to the correct vowel sounds to be made when speaking and reading Hebrew out loud.

Notice the first letter in the Hebrew name (both forms), it is the letter Yod, and underneath it we see in the first form two vertical dots under the letter, this is known as a Shvah, and in the second form of the name there are two horizontal dots, that is a Tsere. Both the Shvah and Tsere indicate a vowel sound that is most similar to the English vowel 'e' as in "men" or "bed". So the initial sound of both forms of the name is "Ye".

There can't be a "Ya" sound here, that's simply not how it works. There is nothing to suggest it or indicate it. Even if one wanted to argue that the Niqqud are wrong, there's no alternative source of information to work with.

But even ignoring the Niqqud for the moment, we can look at all the non-Hebrew evidence we have. For example we have the Aramaic form of the name, all the preserved Aramaic forms have a "Ye" sound such as Yeshuu and Isho.. We also have the evidence right there in the Septuagint and also in the New Testament. It is always written with an Iota followed by an Eta. The Greek is not Iasous but Iesous.

That means that the Aramaic and Greek evidence supports the Masoretic pronunciation.

All available linguistic evidence, the very nature of the Hebrew language itself, its preservation in Aramaic and Greek, all of the evidence does not allow for a pronunciation such as "Yasha", it's an impossible conclusion.

You are, of course, free to believe what you want; but let's recall my point earlier. Shouldn't we strive to conform our beliefs to truth? Shouldn't truth inform and shape our beliefs? Shouldn't we strive toward truth in everything?

Believe what you want. But what you believe is not in agreement with what is objectively and factually true. One cannot force a round earth to become flat simply by wishing it to be so; and neither can one make the Messiah's name "Yasha" just by believing it to be so--because it wasn't. Nobody called Him that. Ever.

Yehoshua, Yeshua, Yeshu, Isho, Iesous, Iesus, Jesus: these all mean "YHWH saves" or "YHWH is salvation". But "Yasha" doesn't mean anything.

-CryptoLUtheran

 

[dfw69]

"Yasha" doesn't mean anything in Hebrew. And that wasn't the name which Gabriel said to give Him.

You are free, of course, to believe anything, we all are. I am free to believe that I am Napoleon Bonaparte, but belief doesn't make something true. We should seek to conform our beliefs to truth. As Christians that means orientating our belief to the revealed truth of God which is given in and through Christ; but more generally it also means that our beliefs should conform to objective facts. For example, I may believe that the earth is flat, but it is a matter of objective truth and fact that the earth is, in fact, an oblate spheroid orbiting a star--our sun, while spinning on its axis. If one proposition is true and the other is not true surely it is preferable to believe that which is true rather than to believe that which isn't true.

It is, therefore, preferable to believe in the truth than to believe in things which are not true. You may very well believe that "Yasha" is a name, and it's the name which was given to the Messiah. But it wasn't. That's not a matter of feeling or opinion, but a matter of objective fact. The name, as recorded in the original Greek texts which make up all of the New Testament, is Ἰησοῦς (pronounced as Iesous). And this Greek construction was the standard way which the Hebrew name יְהוֹשֻׁעַ‎ and יֵשׁוּעַ‎, pronounced Yehoshua and Yeshua respectively was written.

How do we know that is the pronunciation of those two forms of that name? In the Middle Ages a group of Hebrew scholars and scribes created a system for pronunciation to aid readers. As written Hebrew lacked vowel characters, the Hebrew writing system being an abjad (a consonant-only writing system). While Hebrew had ceased to be a common language among the Jews following the Babylonian Captivity and the return from Exile, having been replaced with Aramaic, Hebrew remained an important language--the language of the Temple, the language of religious texts, the language of scholars and scribes. And it was these same scholars and scribes who kept the Hebrew language alive even following the destruction of the Jewish Temple in AD 70. They kept it alive in the liturgies of the synagogue, they kept it alive in prayers, they kept it alive through schools of learning. And so those scholars and scribes, specifically those known as the Masoretes, created vowel markers, called Niqqud in Hebrew. A system of dots and dashes which point to the correct vowel sounds to be made when speaking and reading Hebrew out loud.

Notice the first letter in the Hebrew name (both forms), it is the letter Yod, and underneath it we see in the first form two vertical dots under the letter, this is known as a Shvah, and in the second form of the name there are two horizontal dots, that is a Tsere. Both the Shvah and Tsere indicate a vowel sound that is most similar to the English vowel 'e' as in "men" or "bed". So the initial sound of both forms of the name is "Ye".

There can't be a "Ya" sound here, that's simply not how it works. There is nothing to suggest it or indicate it. Even if one wanted to argue that the Niqqud are wrong, there's no alternative source of information to work with.

But even ignoring the Niqqud for the moment, we can look at all the non-Hebrew evidence we have. For example we have the Aramaic form of the name, all the preserved Aramaic forms have a "Ye" sound such as Yeshuu and Isho.. We also have the evidence right there in the Septuagint and also in the New Testament. It is always written with an Iota followed by an Eta. The Greek is not Iasous but Iesous.

That means that the Aramaic and Greek evidence supports the Masoretic pronunciation.

All available linguistic evidence, the very nature of the Hebrew language itself, its preservation in Aramaic and Greek, all of the evidence does not allow for a pronunciation such as "Yasha", it's an impossible conclusion.

You are, of course, free to believe what you want; but let's recall my point earlier. Shouldn't we strive to conform our beliefs to truth? Shouldn't truth inform and shape our beliefs? Shouldn't we strive toward truth in everything?

Believe what you want. But what you believe is not in agreement with what is objectively and factually true. One cannot force a round earth to become flat simply by wishing it to be so; and neither can one make the Messiah's name "Yasha" just by believing it to be so--because it wasn't. Nobody called Him that. Ever.

Yehoshua, Yeshua, Yeshu, Isho, Iesous, Iesus, Jesus: these all mean "YHWH saves" or "YHWH is salvation". But "Yasha" doesn't mean anything.

-CryptoLUtheran

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Strong's Concordance yasha: to deliver​ Original Word: יָשַׁע Part of Speech: Verb Transliteration: yasha Phonetic Spelling: (yaw-shah') Definition: to deliver

Are we no longer using strong’s?

Now masoretic text is law and definition of truth?

Not every Jew believes nikud point system is accurate and/or believe and teach the truth that the system is a lie or false-
That It changes the sounds of Hebrew words to deceive the unlearned ?

 

[ViaCrucis]

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◄ 3467. yasha ►

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Strong's Concordance yasha: to deliver​ Original Word: יָשַׁע Part of Speech: Verb Transliteration: yasha Phonetic Spelling: (yaw-shah') Definition: to deliver

Are we no longer using strong’s?

Now masoretic text is law and definition of truth?

Not every Jew believes nikud point system is accurate and/or believe and teach the truth that the system is a lie or false-
That It changes the sounds of Hebrew words to deceive the unlearned ?

Yasha is a verb, not a name. How does yasha become Iesous in Greek or Yeshuu/Isho in Syriac?

What Jewish sources say that niqqud is false and that it deceives?

Also, you're relying on niqqud for the word "yasha", יָשַׁע has a Qamatz under the Yod and a Patah under the Shin, which is how Strong's is able to say the pronunciation is yAshA. If the entire system of vowel markings in Hebrew is a deceptive lie then why are you relying on it for the pronunciation of this Hebrew verb?

-CryptoLutheran

 

[dfw69]

Yasha is a verb, not a name.

Describes what he represents and who he is like David describes how he was beloved

How does yasha become Iesous in Greek or Yeshuu/Isho in Syriac?

Yea that’s a mystery…

Also, you're relying on niqqud for the word "yasha", יָשַׁע has a Qamatz under the Yod and a Patah under the Shin, which is how Strong's is able to say the pronunciation is yAshA. If the entire system of vowel markings in Hebrew is a deceptive lie then why are you relying on it for the pronunciation of this Hebrew verb?

-CryptoLutheran

I didn’t say the entire system is a lie

I simply look for a Jewish word to describe the mashiah and yasha fits the bill for the child who would become yah savior..

 

[ViaCrucis]

Describes what he represents and who he is like David describes how he was beloved

That doesn't make it His name.

Yea that’s a mystery…

Only if you deny the plain facts. His name wasn't "Yasha", the name which Mary and Joseph called Him was probably Yeshu'. And, like Yehoshua and Yeshua in Hebrew, that name is always transliterated as Iesous in Greek.

I didn’t say the entire system is a lie

So it's only a lie when it doesn't agree with your self-made theory? Which is more likely, a group of Jewish scribes intentionally tried to deceive the world by hiding the true pronunciation of the name of Jesus by saying that Moses' successor is Yehoshua (with the apparent help and aid of Aramaic-speaking Christians as well)? Or that you're simply mistaken?

Is it more likely that there was some widespread conspiracy, or that you could simply be wrong?

I simply look for a Jewish word to describe the mashiah and yasha fits the bill for the child who would become yah savior..

That's not how that works. You don't get to just make something up because it seems good to you. I like the idea of having a billion dollars, but my bank account says something very different. So I can't just say I have a billion dollars because it sounds good. That's not how truth works.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[dfw69]

That doesn't make it His name.

A name can be a description of someone

If yasha is a verb description of someone actions or god’s actions then it can be a name

Like Yashayah ,salvation

Yasha called Peter Peter which is a description implies steadfastness

Only if you deny the plain facts. His name wasn't "Yasha", the name which Mary and Joseph called Him was probably Yeshu'. And, like Yehoshua and Yeshua in Hebrew, that name is always transliterated as Iesous in Greek.

Yeshu is an acronym for may his name be blotted out

So it's only a lie when it doesn't agree with your self-made theory? Which is more likely, a group of Jewish scribes intentionally tried to deceive the world by hiding the true pronunciation of the name of Jesus by saying that Moses' successor is Yehoshua (with the apparent help and aid of Aramaic-speaking Christians as well)? Or that you're simply mistaken?

Is it more likely that there was some widespread conspiracy, or that you could simply be wrong?

I’ve been wrong before so that’s not unlikely but a widespread conspiracy is not unlikely as well

That's not how that works. You don't get to just make something up because it seems good to you. I like the idea of having a billion dollars, but my bank account says something very different. So I can't just say I have a billion dollars because it sounds good. That's not how truth works.

-CryptoLutheran

I can do whatever my faith takes me I have that right and I have one life and if I choose to believe yasha is most likely my fathers given birth name because it describes him perfectly then so be it

And if you want to stand and judge me deceiving myself ,because you side with scribes then that’s on you …

 

[ViaCrucis]

A name can be a description of someone

If yasha is a verb description of someone actions or god’s actions then it can be a name

Like Yashayah ,salvation

Do you mean Yeshayahu, Isaiah's Hebrew name?

Yasha called Peter Peter which is a description implies steadfastness

No, Jesus Christ called Simon bar Jonah "Peter", (Kepha in Aramaic).

Yeshu is an acronym for may his name be blotted out

So Syriac Christians have, for two thousand years, been saying "may his name be blotted out" when they pray and sing hymns to Christ?

You've been reading anti-semitic conspiracy theories about the Talmud haven't you?

I’ve been wrong before so that’s not unlikely but a widespread conspiracy is not unlikely as well

Billions of people say one thing, you say another. So the natural conclusion is that you're right and everyone else is wrong?

I can do whatever my faith takes me I have that right and I have one life and if I choose to believe yasha is most likely my fathers given birth name because it describes him perfectly then so be it

I thought we were talking about Jesus, not God the Father. Jesus isn't the Father, He's the Son. Yes, you can believe whatever you want. But should you? Do you have any responsibility to believe in true things rather than false things?

And if you want to stand and judge me deceiving myself ,because you side with scribes then that’s on you …

I'm not judging you. I'm saying you're wrong. Those are entirely different things.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[dfw69]

Do you mean Yeshayahu, Isaiah's Hebrew name?



No, Jesus Christ called Simon bar Jonah "Peter", (Kepha in Aramaic).



So Syriac Christians have, for two thousand years, been saying "may his name be blotted out" when they pray and sing hymns to Christ?

You've been reading anti-semitic conspiracy theories about the Talmud haven't you?




Billions of people say one thing, you say another. So the natural conclusion is that you're right and everyone else is wrong?



I thought we were talking about Jesus, not God the Father. Jesus isn't the Father, He's the Son. Yes, you can believe whatever you want. But should you? Do you have any responsibility to believe in true things rather than false things?



I'm not judging you. I'm saying you're wrong. Those are entirely different things.

-CryptoLutheran

Then how do you say yahs savior? Or savior of yah in Hebrew?

Also yasha is not a name but yanuka is?

 

[ViaCrucis]

Then how do you say yahs savior? Or savior of yah in Hebrew?

Also yasha is not a name but yanuka is?

Yehoshua and Yeshua both mean "YHWH saves" or "YHWH is salvation".

The name which was given to Mary's Child means "YHWH is salvation". So when Gabriel said the Child's name would be Jesus (Aramaic: Yeshu') the angel adds, "for He will save His people from their sins".

The name form of "salvation" is Hoshea (English: Hosea), that is how the verb "yasha" becomes a name. When the son of Nun's name was changed from Hoshea to Yehoshua it was because Moses added the theophoric prefix, so his name went from being Hoshea "salvation" to Yehoshua "YHWH is salvation".

The Aramaic form of the name given by Mary and Joseph was Yeshu' or something very similar. From the shortened form of Yehoshua, Yeshua. So in Hebrew it would be Yeshua, in Aramaic it was Yeshu', in Greek it was Iesous, and in English it's Jesus. It's all the same name. But, and I can't stress this enough, "Yasha" is not. He wasn't called Hoshea/Hosea either. He was given the name Yeshu' which is Jesus in English.

From what I can tell "yanuka" is from the Aramaic meaning a nursing infant. It is used for exceptionally bright or stand-out children in Hasidic Judaism. So "yanuka" has a similar meaning as "wunderkind", an exceptionally bright child or student, a prodigy. It's not a name per se, but a a term of endearment given to exceptional students.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ViaCrucis]

Rabbi Schlomo Yehuda Be'ri is a young rabbi that has been dubbed a yanuka, a "wonder-child" or "prodigy" by his seniors.

But claims that he has been "anointed" as messiah have no basis in fact. And this appears to be just another case of pin-the-tail-on-the-antichrist by some over-zealous apocalypse junkies.

Christians Anoint Young Rabbi as ‘False Messiah’ - Israel Today

Misunderstanding by end-times prophecy-watchers leads many to believe that the tribulation is at hand.

www.israeltoday.co.il

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Rabbi Schlomo Yehuda Be'ri is a young rabbi that has been dubbed a yanuka, a "wonder-child" or "prodigy" by his seniors.

Yes, Yanuka is not a name but more of a title. It is from the Zohar.

 

[dfw69]

Yehoshua and Yeshua both mean "YHWH saves" or "YHWH is salvation".

The name which was given to Mary's Child means "YHWH is salvation". So when Gabriel said the Child's name would be Jesus (Aramaic: Yeshu') the angel adds, "for He will save His people from their sins".

The name form of "salvation" is Hoshea (English: Hosea), that is how the verb "yasha" becomes a name. When the son of Nun's name was changed from Hoshea to Yehoshua it was because Moses added the theophoric prefix, so his name went from being Hoshea "salvation" to Yehoshua "YHWH is salvation".

The Aramaic form of the name given by Mary and Joseph was Yeshu' or something very similar. From the shortened form of Yehoshua, Yeshua. So in Hebrew it would be Yeshua, in Aramaic it was Yeshu', in Greek it was Iesous, and in English it's Jesus. It's all the same name. But, and I can't stress this enough, "Yasha" is not. He wasn't called Hoshea/Hosea either. He was given the name Yeshu' which is Jesus in English.

From what I can tell "yanuka" is from the Aramaic meaning a nursing infant. It is used for exceptionally bright or stand-out children in Hasidic Judaism. So "yanuka" has a similar meaning as "wunderkind", an exceptionally bright child or student, a prodigy. It's not a name per se, but a a term of endearment given to exceptional students.

-CryptoLutheran

Thanks for your replies and efforts to convince me , the evidence seems to be in your favor …but I’m not buying it … I simply don’t believe it is true

Show me where (ye) (shu) means yah savior yasha means savior and yah sha means yahs savior

Who is ye ?
Ye cries for help? This is not yahs savior
Shu Shuah shua cries out for help

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Thanks for your replies and efforts to convince me , the evidence seems to be in your favor …but I’m not buying it … I simply don’t believe it is true

Show me where (ye) (shu) means yah savior yasha means savior and yah sha means yahs savior

Who is ye ?
Ye cries for help? This is not yahs savior
Shu Shuah shua cries out for help

See that is the neat thing about something being true...it does not matter if you believe it is true or not...