The media lies so how can any of us write useful posts?

[MorkandMindy]

Well there's two ends to the spectrum, the mainstream media at one end that tells the public essentially nothing of what is going on, and misinterpreting the very little they do tell,

and the conspiracy theories at the other end telling what is going on but with a ton of other stuff that people are talking about doing but which will probably never happen because they are back up ideas and nothing more,

and then also a ton of stuff which like the MSM has a badly misinterpreted version of what is actually happening, but all of it instead of just a limited amount of it.

 

[Sam91]

I have stopped watching the news, reading papers. 5 years ago, because of the deception in the mainstream press.

I tried watching it not too long ago and all I saw was sin and wordly thinking. Decided to carry on relating to the community I live instead. Not ideal if everybody did it tho.

 

[Gadarene]

Well there's two ends to the spectrum, the mainstream media at one end that tells the public essentially nothing of what is going on, and misinterpreting the very little they do tell,

and the conspiracy theories at the other end telling what is going on but with a ton of other stuff that people are talking about doing but which will probably never happen because they are back up ideas and nothing more,

and then also a ton of stuff which like the MSM has a badly misinterpreted version of what is actually happening, but all of it instead of just a limited amount of it.

It's as if people can't use critical thinking rather than going all in with believing everything the press says or believing nothing it says.

 

[Sam91]

It's as if people can't use critical thinking rather than going all in with believing everything the press says or believing nothing it says.

They would rather ignore it or absorb it as an excuse to hate refugees, disabled people and other groups. Humans of this era seem to only care if their flesh is happy... which it can never be without God. Therefore, they are glad of an excuse to 'hate' on people.

 

[Gadarene]

They would rather ignore it or take it in to hate refugees, disabled people and other groups. Human's at this time serm to only care if there flesh is happy... which it can never be without God. Therefore, they are glad of an excuse to 'hate' on people.

I almost wish they would get rid of all the foreigners, just to see how they would react when there are no foreigners left to blame all their problems on.

 

[Sam91]

I almost wish they would get rid of all the foreigners, just to see how they would react when there are no foreigners left to blame all their problems on.

Well that is a shame... I see your point but surely there is a better solution.

I think a lot of our Pastor's have an issue with the flock in this society. If the full truth about sin was preached etc how many people would sit in the pews on a Sunday?

 

[Gadarene]

Well that is a shame... I see your point but surely there is a better solution.

It's not a serious suggestion, don't worry. I am dealing with the same thing here in Britain, re. Brexit. There is no guarantee yet that EU citizens (I'm Irish by citizenship) will be allowed to remain here despite having lived here legally for several years. I've been here for almost half my life now, but my partner and I have no security on whether we'll be here in two years' time, based on the lies of a bunch of backward xenophobes.

They'll have to drag me out.

I think a lot of our Pastor's have an issue with the flock in this society. If the full truth about sin was preached etc how many people would sit in the pews on a Sunday?

What sort of sin do you mean? Forgive my cynicism, but if you mean things unrelated to the sort of meanspiritedness that causes people to disdain the poor, the orphans, the widowed, the foreigner....then I don't really see how that's going to help.

 

[Sam91]

I'm in Scotland. I knew you didn't mean it but still felt the compassion regardless

Really? I have been avoiding listening to the ramifications and focussing on the Lord instead. I can't change anything with my situation but looking forward to voting soon.

You know I am not sure about what I meant about sin. Just felt that in my old church I was looked at like I was crazy for trying to walk the way Jesus says. But I do feel as a congregation the word of God needed preached rather than catchy messages.

My new church seems more bible based and have heard gentle admonitions, or our responsibilities pointed out a bit more. So my opinion isn't fully formed.

 

[CrystalDragon]

They would rather ignore it or absorb it as an excuse to hate refugees, disabled people and other groups. Humans of this era seem to only care if their flesh is happy... which it can never be without God. Therefore, they are glad of an excuse to 'hate' on people.

"only care if their flesh is happy... which it can never be without God"

I don't know, plenty of atheists/agnostics seem to be pretty happy. Even happier than Christians who are terrified of hell. That's not happiness, that's fear and suffering.

 

[Gadarene]

"only care if their flesh is happy... which it can never be without God"

I don't know, plenty of atheists/agnostics seem to be pretty happy. Even happier than Christians who are terrified of hell. That's not happiness, that's fear and suffering.

can confirm i'm happier realising there is no eternal punishment for thoughtcrime

and this is why i don't think christianity is going to be of much use in this situation if you're not focusing on the words about looking after the disadvantaged

 

[Sam91]

Of course I am. I have seen many professing Christian's feeling veterans are more 'worthy' than refugees for example.. Each have value, we aren't judge over who deserves help. Christian's at least should know we are equal in the Lord's eyes. All His creation. These things should be reaffirmed through teaching of the word.

People on busses have broached the subject of refugees being a problem. I'm looked at as being crazy for saying how terrible it's been for them and they deserve help. They then use media fed responses. If people stood up more for these groups in conversations non christians would feel convicted. But it's also us not tenderhearted enough to help which is a problem.

 

[Gadarene]

Of course I am. I have seen many professing Christian's feeling veterans are more 'worthy' than refugees for example.. Each have value, we aren't judge over who deserves help. Christian's at least should know we are equal in the Lord's eyes. All His creation. These things should be reaffirmed through teaching of the word.

People on busses have broached the subject of refugees being a problem. I'm looked at as being crazy for saying how terrible it's been for them and they deserve help. They then use media fed responses. If people stood up more for these groups in conversations non christians would feel convicted. But it's also us not tenderhearted enough to help which is a problem.

Bravo sir - sorry for doubting you.

I am completely on board with those Christian sentiments if nothing else.

 

[MorkandMindy]

I have stopped watching the news, reading papers. 5 years ago, because of the deception in the mainstream press.

I tried watching it not too long ago and all I saw was sin and wordly thinking. Decided to carry on relating to the community I live instead. Not ideal if everybody did it tho.

I think it would be a good idea if everyone did it tho.

People say they don't believe the news and then tell me what awful things Iran is doing. What awful things?

It is the same every time, they decide M Gaddafi is past his prime so bomb the best country in all of Africa to live in, and now it is rapidly sliding down the HDI table, split in several parts and likely to be run by our friends ISIS.

Each time a guy at work who reads the paper daily says 'this attack isn't like any of the other ones, Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, or Libya, this time it really needs to be done and it will really help the people of country X if we go and blow it up.

Doing actual research is what is needed, not just the lazy, pour the media into my brain and I'll learn from it approach.

 

[MorkandMindy]

People claim to love others as themselves, but won't even look something up on the Internet to find out if bombing Libya will actually help it or not.

 

[MorkandMindy]

Or even just reframe the question from an unfamiliar one, to a similar one that is familiar.

Bombing Tripoli, Libya to for example to heavily bombing a US city. It is a thought experiment that might help understand the situation.

How would the bombing help the population? In what ways exactly?

How would destroying the government help a country consisting of diverse but interdependent parts?